original poster":39h8hjgv said:
For anyone that wants to have a conversation, try and convince me that I'm wrong. I'm all ears, seriously.
Show me what I'm missing and I will gladly get far more excited about George Fant but here's what I see with him -
His execution against the bullrush is dreadful. The pass rusher can move him pretty much wherever he wants him on the vast majority of plays.
He was nothing short of a liability in the run game. The ability is there, it's purely down to execution and experience. He's not an experienced lineman and he plays like an inexperienced lineman.
His initial hand placement is awful. Rather than going to the inside of the chest on initial contact he grabs the outside or near the shoulders, the result? His arms get knocked to the outside so he's left with no leverage, no balance and simply gets knocked out the way leaving a clear lane to the passer.
He holds. A lot. I don't remember it being a particular problem in game situations so he probably didn't get flagged as often as he should have. He should have ended up with easily the same amount of holding penalties Ifedi managed, he was just lucky.
How about what he does well?
He has good feet and his athleticism really shows in a lot of plays. There is no denying that the potential is there.
He is very good at swooping the pass rusher so far outside that it gives the passer enough room to adjust and move up or around in the pocket. When he does get beat on an outside rush, very often it's too late for the rusher to do anything as the curve he was forced to take was so large that he was still nowhere near the passer.
He's clearly smart. There were times when he was facing stunts but he stayed in his zone and didn't get fooled into staying on his guy. If his guy left his zone, he'd pass them off, exactly as he should in a ZBS. The counter point to this is he'd sometimes find himself forced out of position on stunts so he was unable to protect his assigned zone. This mainly happened against elite rushers though so he certainly gets a pass here from me.
The biggest blow for him was getting injured in preseason in my opinion. The Seahawks were probably fully prepared to deal with the downfalls knowing full well that it would pay dividends in a year. Having another full 16 games to accelerate his development would have worked wonders for him.
Now we have Duane Brown and Jamarco Jones at the same spot? He needs to hope he can transition to another position and actually be the better lineman. With how the run game was last season I don't envision the coaching staff willing to put him in the starting 5 knowing that it would put a better lineman on the bench, they need results now, not a sacrifice now to pay dividends in future seasons.
This is a fugazi...
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You have a couple of points sprinkled in there among all the inaccuracies, definitive absolute statements, half truths and lack of nuance...
"Son your potential is going to get me fired"
I am glad we had this disagreement because now it is like a little side bet ... before I just wanted a kick ass line ... now this has turned into a little pissing contest... all in good fun. Come on George the Wolves are at the door don't let me down.
I really have slow mo watched a lot of O Line play over the last couple of years and things come really easy to him on the football field... things that are special... fluid,quick,agile and strong and if you think he doesn't have sand in his pants ... you do not know what you are talking about this is not Sean Locklear ...he can anchor... when he is technique sound. Cool this should be fun... I will risk looking like a dumb ass to unknowledgeable people..
I vote George Fant to make it and I endorse this message.
Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll believes “there’s a chance” left tackle George Fant will be available by the start of training camp. Carroll addressed Fant’s recovery process while speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine podium on Thursday.
“I’m seeing him almost every day as he runs through the building working out,” Carroll said. “He’s really excited about it, and we’ll see how far he can take it. George was just on the rise and just coming and he had a tremendous start to last season, and we were really excited about him.”
Fant suffered a torn ACL during the preseason and spent the remainder of the year on the injured reserve. Carroll was asked specifically whether or not Fant would be recovered by the start of training camp later this summer.
“There’s a chance for that,” Carroll explained. “That’s what he’s shooting for. Because his injury happened early in the year, he has a chance. Some guys get that late in the year, and those couple of months are a big difference because those last couple of months of the rehab are really important. We won’t rush him at all.
The Seahawks had to make some adjustments to their offensive line in Fant’s absence and eventually pulled the trigger on a mid-season trade to acquire tackle Duane Brown from the Texans. Carroll still sees a place for Fant on the line.
“He’s got a great future ahead of him and we’re excited about his development and all of that,” Carroll said. “His mentality is great. So we’ll see what happens, but I know he’s holding out for that.”
You can't Stop George Fant ... you can only wish to contain him.... should be fun dude ....
Cheers
