Geno Smith

[Spin Doctor]

Bryce Young isn't going anywhere. They invested way too much into him and he seems to be figuring it out. He will be Carolina's QB for a long time

Doubt it. Bryce isn't going to be a star in this league. His size and build are going to be major hinderances for longevity and consistency. The closest guy to his build, Kyler Murray has a tendency to get banged up. The other guy, RW is built like a tank. Both of these QB's have issues over the middle and thrived because of their improv and athletic talents.

Bryce Young doesn't have the arm of a Russell Wilson, nor does he have the frame of a Russell Wilson. He doesn't have the improv ability and athleticism of a Wilson or Murray either.

The other outlier is Brees. I suppose he could follow that model, but the short passer in the arch-type of Brees is an even more rare phenomenon.

Even with Brees it took the right tutelage and opportunities in order for him to bud as a star in the NFL. Had Brees spent his first few years in the league under that Carolina Panthers organization, well... The main problem there is the owner and that is unlikely to change anytime soon.

 

[Shane Falco]

I'm not trying to make excuses for him, he is what he is. But because of that I think they put the ball in his hands to much. It's ridiculous.

 

[SeaWolv]

I think you have to ride him for one more year given the lack of alternatives. Play out his last year of the contract but don't extend. Absolutely have a plan in place for a 2026 qb.

We probably need to take some risks to get out of mediocrity. Some tough decisions coming up on who to extend or put resources in. Do you pay metcalf 30+million or trade? Same with woolen. Lockett is a cap casualty etc

Problem is our 2026 1st round pick is likely to be worse than the 2025 pick, which is likely be worse than the 2024. So JS will have to move up to get a QBotF which will cost precious draft capital for a retooling franchise. I don't think you pay DK. Not sold on Woolen either. Lockett needs to restructure or get waived.

 

[Chukarhawk]

Geno is elite capabilities with back up QB decisions.

 

[SeaWolv]

Doubt it. Bryce isn't going to be a star in this league. His size and build are going to be major hinderances for longevity and consistency. The closest guy to his build, Kyler Murray has a tendency to get banged up. The other guy, RW is built like a tank. Both of these QB's have issues over the middle and thrived because of their improv and athletic talents.

Bryce Young doesn't have the arm of a Russell Wilson, nor does he have the frame of a Russell Wilson. He doesn't have the improv ability and athleticism of a Wilson or Murray either.

The other outlier is Brees. I suppose he could follow that model, but the short passer in the arch-type of Brees is an even more rare phenomenon.

Even with Brees it took the right tutelage and opportunities in order for him to bud as a star in the NFL. Had Brees spent his first few years in the league under that Carolina Panthers organization, well... The main problem there is the owner and that is unlikely to change anytime soon.

Then I don't know where JS goes to get a QB already in the league to be a potential Darnold/Mayfield type that can become our QBotF. So that leaves the NFL draft and means that JS has to trade up.

 

[beaumaris]

Geno is elite capabilities with back up QB decisions.

Geno is as bad as he is good.For me that’s not good enough.

 

[Utah_hawk]

Found a great tweet on our QB situation

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I think there's three options to winning at QB:

1) Rookie contract // But you gotta be bad enough to get a top rookie here OR get lucky later like Russ / Dak / Purdy... but exceptionally hard to plan for that.

2) Pay up for a stud // These opportunities don't come up often. And when they do, there's usually a reason. So you gotta dodge the landmines like Russ, A-Rod, Watson, and Cousins. (Better to pay-up for your rookie who develops into this.)

3) Save max $$ on a vet // This is a roll-the-dice option, but the big win is saving money and spending it elsewhere (weapons, protection, etc.). Geno pre-contract is a good example. Or Mayfield / Goff / Darnold before their bumps (and pending bump).

IMO the worst QB strategy is paying 50% stud-money for a reliable vet. Either go all-in on a stud or maximize the $$ savings.

... So, I guess my answer is to maximize savings + draft a rookie and hope it turns out.

You could bridge with a player like Justin Fields, Daniel Jones, Jameis Winston, Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones ... or Davis Mills, Andy Dalton, Taylor Heinicke, or Bailey Zappe. Save big and hope for Geno-like production.

And then IF a rook falls: take a swing + develop (Milroe, Beck, Ewers, Gabriel). The coaching staff will know those prospects and how each would fit their scheme the best to set them up for success.

Without hindsight bias -- some recent examples I liked would be Jordan Travis (Rd 5), Hendon Hooker (Rd 3), Matt Corral (Rd 3), Bailey Zappe (Rd 4), Kellen Mond (Rd. 3), Davis Mills (Rd 3), Jordan Love (Pick 26), Jalen Hurts (Rd. 2). Of course... they'll fail most of the time. But at least you're taking a swing at the best positional advantage you can get in the game: a cheap answer at the most valuable position.

 

[bigskydoc]

I hope they bring Tommy Mellott in for a look. It's a bad year for QBs, and I wouldn't waste any picks before the 5th round on one. 2026 looks a bit better to me. Would be nice to be in a position to trade up an take Manning.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

If we do draft a QB is would see if we can go after Beck. I think out of all the QBs in the draft he is the one that we may be able to get.

 

[Ozzy]

Geno leads the league in red zone interceptions but did you also know he leads the NFL in interceptions in his own endzone?

His touchdown % is the same and Cooper Rush and Devito in NY?

30th ranked passer on third downs

Interceptions at home the past two years? 18. Russell Wilson has 2

He had 5 ballls yesterday that could’ve been picked


We’re solely blaming DK for the last interception but Minnesota players are shocked he threw it considering the coverage

 

[Fresno Hawk]

Well, I seen the play exactly how the Vikings players did. Every time he's made a bone head throw like that i keep thinking, how is this guy a 10 plus year vet and still making those bad decisions. This is good for the Hawks, Geno has not earned a pay raise or an extension. But if we let him play out his contract maybe it will have him playing better next year in the contract year.

 

[Sperrydogg]

IF, we are lucky enough to draft a QB that looks better than promising, we need a QB to hold his place while he learns the ropes. Few QB's come out of College ready to lead a team in the NFL. Which is why I would have traded Geno before the deadline, and gone with what they have. Better to lose big, that to be a respectable loser.

Like hitting 16 against a ten rather than losing 16-20

 

[Sperrydogg]

Did this Idiot really told the Reporter that he wants Big Dollar because he is a Top QB?
There are 3 QBs in the NFL with 15 or more INTs
1. Cousins -> benched and gone
2. Mayfield -> has 2 times more TDs than Geno (34)
3. Geno -> he wants big money

What a ******* Clown

Mayfield has that quality of leadership that is easy to rally behind. There was him mic’ed up one time when his running back broke a long one to the house and they caught baker on the sideline high five-ing his lineman saying , “did you see that handoff! Man that handoff!! That’s a highlight !”

 

[Shane Falco]

Mayfield has that quality of leadership that is easy to rally behind. There was him mic’ed up one time when his running back broke a long one to the house and they caught baker on the sideline high five-ing his lineman saying , “did you see that handoff! Man that handoff!! That’s a highlight !”

Yeah, he's a character. Did you see that vid of him disguising himself and joining a fan tour?

 

[Sperrydogg]

Yeah, I didn't listen to the commentary and picked up on what Sanchez had said in a Facebook post. But I think it's pretty clear that Metcalf was supposed to be at the spot where Geno threw.

We'll never know for sure whose fault it was, but based on past history, I'd put my money on Metcalf.

I will agree that it was metcalf at fault for not getting to the spot but I think geno could have read the situation better and not made the throw. Thats just what geno does though. More than half his throws seem like he’s not really reading the field he’s just throwing to a spot no matter what. It’s partly the play call, but how many times you gonna just throw it for grabs

 

[Sperrydogg]

Yeah, he's a character. Did you see that vid of him disguising himself and joining a fan tour?

No but I bet it’s funny. His commercials are funny too

 

[Sperrydogg]

Yeah, he's a character. Did you see that vid of him disguising himself and joining a fan tour?

That’s awesome!

 

[Vesuve]

DK not running routes well - again.
All-22 tape from Top Billin' and Sanchez calling the game:

 

[hawks85]

Smith is trying to be something he's not just like what Wilson used to do.

 

[Sperrydogg]

DK not running routes well - again.
All-22 tape from Top Billin' and Sanchez calling the game:

The route by DK Riq’d