Geno is a ******* dog

[hgwellz12]

I will agree with RAT in that I would like to see Geno (AND Grubb) do a little better in the Red Zone. It's my SOLE concern with them. Oline play not withstanding.

 

[Vesuve]

I don't want to hear anyone talk shit about Geno anymore. what an absolute DOG performance. That is my ******* qb.

Damn right.

 

[Spin Doctor]

I will agree with RAT in that I would like to see Geno (AND Grubb) do a little better in the Red Zone. It's my SOLELY concern with them. Oline play not withstanding.

This has been an issue with Geno for awhile. His redzone stats aren't great and have never really been. It is the biggest flaw in Geno's game.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

I was impressed with how well Geno did considering almost every play it felt like he was immediately under pressure.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Geno was an absolute embarrassment the last two drives. Bryce Young would have looked less shaky in the red zone.

He has good games, but this was one of those ones where you leave unsurprised that he's like the league's fifth-oldest starter and has never won a playoff game.

Here we go.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Howell easily would have put up 400 yards too. Geno's yardage doesn't excuse whatever the hell it was he was doing in the red zone with the game on the line. 12 years in, he needs to be better than that.

Question: Have you ever watched Sam Howell play football?

 

[pittpnthrs]

I only watched the first half and Geno was playing well. Didn't understand why Grubb wasn't running the ball more, but evidently he did so in the second half.

 

[Year of The Hawk]

Geno played fantastic. What QB could have performed under that kind of pressure all game. Plus it was obvious we were going to throw the ball when down two scores. We really didn’t have any other option. Their defense pinned their ears back and came after him. He had little time to throw. I would liked to have seen him maybe run it in himself. The red zone deficiencies were not all his fault. Its not like he had Goff time in the picket.

 

[Maelstrom787]

PFF Moo sums it up well:

 

[Rat]

Question: Have you ever watched Sam Howell play football?

I see that he's never needed 56 attempts to reach the kind of yardage Geno had. Did Howell have the advantage of a RB the other team couldn't stop and a trio of wideouts other QBs could only dream of? He could have lost the game in the red zone just as easily.

 

[GemCity]

This may be the first time I’ve disagreed with Rat….OSU brethren and all.

I will say there were some poorly placed balls but, no more than what any other QB could/would do behind our line.

Geno threw 56 times. When you consider the volume, our line, and going against a very, very good defense…Geno had a helluva game.

We gave up 42 points. Tbh, I don’t even consider offensive players stats when we give up that many points. We definitely missed our D-line.

Our defense is the real story behind this loss.

 

[hawker84]

Geno was an absolute embarrassment the last two drives. Bryce Young would have looked less shaky in the red zone.

He has good games, but this was one of those ones where you leave unsurprised that he's like the league's fifth-oldest starter and has never won a playoff game.

What's it like in your reality? Cotton candy clouds and gum drop trees?

 

[hawker84]

This has been an issue with Geno for awhile. His redzone stats aren't great and have never really been. It is the biggest flaw in Geno's game.

Or the biggest flaws in our OLine. Dude has no time to do anything. Why people can't see this is just baffling to me.

 

[DarkVictory23]

This has been an issue with Geno for awhile. His redzone stats aren't great and have never really been. It is the biggest flaw in Geno's game.

This is a problem of our offensive setup. Some of it's on Geno, yeah, but this is an O-Line issue.

Our running game is setup by the passing game. We don't generate push with our O-Line, so we create running lanes by having Geno pass the defense into opening up those spaces.

This works great until you start compacting the field in the red zone. You can't spread the defense out as much, they can cheat into more pass oriented defense because they can react faster to a run play.

In these situations you need an O-Line that can either buy time for your QB or generate push for your RB. Our line can't do either thing.

 

[Maelstrom787]

I see that he's never needed 56 attempts to reach the kind of yardage Geno had. Did Howell have the advantage of a RB the other team couldn't stop and a trio of wideouts other QBs could only dream of? He could have lost the game in the red zone just as easily.

Sam Howell, when faced with a similar amount of pressure, took almost 70 sacks in a single season of football.

Anyone who thinks that he would've done close to what Geno did tonight has not watched Sam Howell sufficiently enough to understand his flaws. He would've shit himself and taken 10 sacks.

Also, Sam had a horrific Y/A in 2023. He's never been good in that regard. Very, very odd lines of criticism here if your goal is to compare Howell *favorably* to Geno.

If you think Geno "lost" the game, then we're watching different sports and I prefer life outside of the demented pocket dimension of doom that is... whatever you're seeing.

 

[Rat]

What's it like in your reality? Cotton candy clouds and gum drop trees?

It is weird. I should live in your reality, where:

Stats > Wins

Ad hominem attacks > Actual rebuttals

 

[Hawknight]

Sam Howell, when faced with a similar amount of pressure, took almost 70 sacks in a single season of football.

Anyone who thinks that he would've done close to what Geno did tonight has not watched Sam Howell sufficiently enough to understand his flaws. He would've shit himself and taken 10 sacks.

Also, Sam had a horrific Y/A in 2023. He's never been good in that regard. Very, very odd lines of criticism here if your goal is to compare Howell *favorably* to Geno.

If you think Geno "lost" the game, then we're watching different sports and I prefer life outside of the demented pocket dimension of doom that is... whatever you're seeing.

I don't know about that...you had other factors as well...coaching for instance...I think Howell with this coaching staff, scheme playing could play rather well IMHO. Add the weapons, i.e. Metcalf, Lockett which he didn't have previously and all, I think you have an entirely different scenario.

 

[Lagartixa]

Geno was an absolute embarrassment the last two drives. Bryce Young would have looked less shaky in the red zone.

He has good games, but this was one of those ones where you leave unsurprised that he's like the league's fifth-oldest starter and has never won a playoff game.

Einstein was an absolute embarrassment after 1920 or so. Maharishi Mahesh Yoga would have done a better job unifying the fundamental forces.

He publishes some decent papers, but his post-1920 work leaves you unsurprised that he was 47+ by that time and had still never won a Nobel Prize.

 

[Rat]

Sam Howell, when faced with a similar amount of pressure, took almost 70 sacks in a single season of football.

Anyone who thinks that he would've done close to what Geno did tonight has not watched Sam Howell sufficiently enough to understand his flaws. He would've shit himself and taken 10 sacks.

Also, Sam had a horrific Y/A in 2023. He's never been good in that regard. Very, very odd lines of criticism here if your goal is to compare Howell *favorably* to Geno.

If you think Geno "lost" the game, then we're watching different sports and I prefer life outside of the demented pocket dimension of doom that is... whatever you're seeing.

Howell takes a lot of hits, but he would have had our weapons and coaches rather than what was going on in DC last year. He has shown that he can put up those pretty, pretty stats that you guys are so impressed with and somehow, I think he could have found a way to throw four terrible passes in a row in the red zone with the game on the line. That wasn't exactly a superhuman feat.

 

[Maelstrom787]

I don't know about that...you had other factors as well...coaching for instance...I think Howell with this coaching staff, scheme playing could play rather well IMHO. Add the weapons, i.e. Metcalf, Lockett which he didn't have previously and all, I think you have an entirely different scenario.

He COULD play rather well, sure. But there is nothing, and I mean very literally nothing, to suggest he would've played equal to or better than Geno Smith last night.

There is, however, a whole lot of evidence pointing to him probably playing far worse than Geno did last night.