Geno is a ******* dog

[Hawknight]

He COULD play rather well, sure. But there is nothing, and I mean very literally nothing, to suggest he would've played equal to or better than Geno Smith last night.

There is, however, a whole lot of evidence pointing to him probably playing far worse than Geno did last night.

Until I see him play, I see no evidence that would suggest that he would play worse than Geno.

 

[SweepSanFran]

Rat, interesting posts for sure, dont agree with most of it. What i do agree with is, yes Geno made mistakes. Did they cost us the game? No. Geno played lights out in my opinion and showed he is an elite QB and can carry the team if he needs to. Now the mistakes in the red zone i dont believe are all his fault. i didnt agree with throwing for the 2 point conversion after the penalty, should have ran there i think we would have scored. I also didnt agree with the Refs denying us the conversion on the pass to DK, buts that life. I think Geno has shown with RG system he could carry us to a SB win. I never like to see a QB have to play hero ball but i sometimes you dont have choice depending on the game is going hence mistakes will be made.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Or the biggest flaws in our OLine. Dude has no time to do anything. Why people can't see this is just baffling to me.

Samething with our prior QB, but everybody blamed him for the issues. Just amusing how the script is flipped.

 

[IndyHawk]

Nowhere does B Young belong in Geno talk.

 

[Lagartixa]

PFF Moo sums it up well:

Couldja please let those of us who can't see Xitter know what was in that Xit?

Xitter has already folded on the issue that led to the fines being applied by the Brazilian courts, but until pays its fines, Xitter will continue to be blocked here in Brazil.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Couldja please let those of us who can't see Xitter know what was in that Xit?

Xitter has already folded on the issue that led to the fines being applied by the Brazilian courts, but until pays its fines, Xitter will continue to be blocked here in Brazil.

Oh, yeah, no worries!

 

[Lagartixa]

Oh, yeah, no worries!View attachment 67623

Nice. Thanks.

 

[olyfan63]

While I somewhat agree with Rat about 1st and goal from inside the 5 and getting turned away, I view it as a whole-offense failure more than a Geno failure, and including Grubb. It's harder to throw to score in the Red Zone with zero time to throw and compressed spacing. Detroit blocked Geno's throw on what would have been a TD pass to Tyler Lockett. There is no real excuse for the 4th down play where the center snapped the ball at 1 second rather than get a delay-of-game penalty, and Geno wasn't ready. It's on Grubb as well--I thought a QB draw or at least one Walker run coulda, shoulda been included.

All that said, Grubb is a helluva OC and I'm super glad we have him. Geno is an excellent, gutsy QB and the Hawks are lucky to have him. Both are cursed by a crappy OL that isn't protecting Geno and isn't generating push in the run game. This failure is actually a good thing. The Hawks will be in this situation again, with more on the line. Grubb and the offense, after some soul searching, and lots of film study, will come up with some better plans for this situation in the future. That earlier middle screen play to Walker was a thing of beauty, but may not work in the compressed space here.

 

[GemCity]

Just haven’t seen too many teams win games when giving up 42 points.

I don’t care if K9 ran for 300 and we barely lost 42-40.

The real story is the defense. As our D-line was out…like, all of our starting D-line, I don’t know how much we need to take away from this last game.

 

[Rat]

Einstein was an absolute embarrassment after 1920 or so. Maharishi Mahesh Yoga would have done a better job unifying the fundamental forces.

He publishes some decent papers, but his post-1920 work leaves you unsurprised that he was 47+ by that time and had still never won a Nobel Prize.

You're right. Einstein's groundbreaking theories that are still relevant today are basically indistinguishable with throwing for 395 yards on 56 attempts with high-end weapons in a loss against a bad defense. And I think we all know where we were when Einstein finally did win that Noble Prize and delivered that inspiring speech where he assured us all that "I ain't write back, tho!". Chills. If only Neil Armstrong had been so inherently eloquent, we'd have thriving colonies on moon.

A more relevant comparison would be if, while reaching the climax of his famous paper on Brownian motion, Einstein had crapped himself, causing a hand spasm that spilled inked everywhere, but everyone excused that his paper didnt ultimately go anywhere because his mustache looked awesome.

 

[Ozzy]

Geno played very, very well all things considered. I'd like to see him figure out the last red zone play where they couldn't communicate but that's obviously not all on him. But I do expect a guy in his 12th year if he can't get the play call in and the clock is running out to just get a play out. Russ had this happen once and we won the game on it. Geno has probably done it before too and we never knew. But all things considered we were in the game because of Geno and the offense. I think the future is bright with Grubb who with zero experience at this level is showing some high level and I'd argue special qualities as an OC. He hasn't been perfect but that's to be expected and he will work through some of that stuff.

Geno and Grubb are playing as well together as you can with a line that just isn't very good.

I do think its within the range of outcomes that Howell in a new environment could have a similar success story that Geno has had. A lot of the stuff we're saying about him we said about Geno too before he got his shot. Not saying he's better than Geno right now because he's not but it wouldn't shock me if at some point he's a very good pro too.

 

[DarkVictory23]

Until I see him play, I see no evidence that would suggest that he would play worse than Geno.

He played for an entire season behind a BETTER offensive line than ours. You can watch it if you like. There is plenty to suggest he would play worse than Geno.

I love how, no matter how elite Geno is in any game, the easy way out for the professional doubters is to imagine a fantasy scenario of some other QB getting plugged in and doing just as well or better, became it's an unfalsifiable belief.

Doesn't have to have anything backing it up, it just can't be proven wrong therefore you never have to acknowledge his play... just pine for a mythical 'better' and go 'yeah, but...'

 

[Maelstrom787]

Until I see him play, I see no evidence that would suggest that he would play worse than Geno.

We saw him last year, we saw him in all of preseason, and we have the benefit of simple probability dictating that Sam Howell is extremely unlikely to come in and immediately start playing like a top 5-10 QB.

There is... much evidence.

 

[Hawk4lyfe]

Tom Brady himself would not have won that game.

Probably not true. Brady would have audibled at the line into better plays, or hit one of those dumb fades they called...

 

[Lords of Scythia]

Seattle Seahawks QB Geno Smith leads NFL in passing yards

Seattle Seahawks QB Geno Smith sits atop the NFL passing leaderboard after throwing for a career-high 395 yards in Monday night's loss.

sports.mynorthwest.com

 

[Hawk4lyfe]

This has been an issue with Geno for awhile. His redzone stats aren't great and have never really been. It is the biggest flaw in Geno's game.

Agreed. Once the field gets compressed he struggles for sure. Difference between being good and great, winning and losing some days. I also didn't care for the play calls down there. Felt like they tried to thro too many fades and what not from inside the 5. Run the ball, or even a qb keeper... and going for 2 earlier in the game was a poor choice as well imo

 

[Lords of Scythia]

Geno was an absolute embarrassment the last two drives. Bryce Young would have looked less shaky in the red zone.

He has good games, but this was one of those ones where you leave unsurprised that he's like the league's fifth-oldest starter and has never won a playoff game.

Seattle Seahawks QB Geno Smith leads NFL in passing yards

Seattle Seahawks QB Geno Smith sits atop the NFL passing leaderboard after throwing for a career-high 395 yards in Monday night's loss.

sports.mynorthwest.com

 

[Rat]

Seattle Seahawks QB Geno Smith leads NFL in passing yards

Seattle Seahawks QB Geno Smith sits atop the NFL passing leaderboard after throwing for a career-high 395 yards in Monday night's loss.

sports.mynorthwest.com

Yes, I'm aware he threw for many yards. That's what happens when you throw a million times.

I see that he has 52 more passing yards than Purdy on 37 more attempts. Well, that proves me wrong about Geno's ineptitude in the red zone.

17th best QB rating too. That's the kind of stuff that gets Canton to waive the waiting period for you.

 

[SeaWolv]

Geno was an absolute embarrassment the last two drives. Bryce Young would have looked less shaky in the red zone.

He has good games, but this was one of those ones where you leave unsurprised that he's like the league's fifth-oldest starter and has never won a playoff game.

Come on, he was under pressure all night long. The announcers made several comments about it. Geno has the 4th highest pressure rate in the league and a pressure to sack rate of only 14.8%. He was 38/56 (67.86%) and threw for 395 yards last night.

The last goal line series was bad: he gets the ball batted down, then sees JSN open but doesn't throw high enough to clear Anzalone, then Metcalf doesn't get open (Aikman - he had the whole endzone to his left) and he throws a low jump ball, then a fade too high for Lockett (where Lockett also had more room to his left to get open). Not his best series of the night but not an embarrassment. He could have used a little more help from his receivers. Yes he had a garbage time pick, the game was over at that point being down 15 with 2:16 to go.

 

[hawkfannj]

GENO is straight balling !