Geno ain't goin' anywhere -

[Ozzy]

For geNOs, there is a long list of QBs that just need better coaching and more touches to be better than geNO. That list starts with our own Howell, and soon to FA Lock and Russ, but we mustn't forget guys like Zach Wilson and Trey Lance could be the next Darnold. For geNOs, it's anyone but Geno.

You post some good stuff and then you troll with posts like these lol

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And I'm gonna follow that up with one titled, "Geno Smith: what are your thoughts?"

I'll start one too: Why do we never talk about geNO?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He wasn’t accurate the last time I saw him play. Maybe that was DKs fault…

You know it. Everything is DK's fault, nothing is geDIOCRE's fault. Rinse and repeat.

/sarcasm

 

[Hawknight]

I'm in the "do not extend Geno" boat—let him play out his contract and start working on a long-term solution for finding a franchise QB. We're in rebuild mode, so any high expectations are, at best, a BIG IF—especially if we only marginally improve from last season. There’s still a lot of work to be done on both sides of the ball.

Once again, we have a new offensive coach—this time with NFL experience, at least—but that’s no guarantee of success. Nothing is in the NFL. Am I a homer every year, expecting a Super Bowl run? Hell yeah! That’s what I expect, hope for, and demand from this team. But I also force myself to face reality—our time has not yet come (but it will), and Geno definitely won’t take us there.

If this team extends Geno, I say we cut our losses with DK. In my opinion, there’s no real chemistry between DK and Geno, so we might as well use that money to rebuild. Plus, we should get younger as a team, allowing the roster to grow together and ultimately reach our Super Bowl destiny.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

I'm in the "do not extend Geno" boat—let him play out his contract and start working on a long-term solution for finding a franchise QB. We're in rebuild mode, so any high expectations are, at best, a BIG IF—especially if we only marginally improve from last season. There’s still a lot of work to be done on both sides of the ball.

Once again, we have a new offensive coach—this time with NFL experience, at least—but that’s no guarantee of success. Nothing is in the NFL. Am I a homer every year, expecting a Super Bowl run? Hell yeah! That’s what I expect, hope for, and demand from this team. But I also force myself to face reality—our time has not yet come (but it will), and Geno definitely won’t take us there.

If this team extends Geno, I say we cut our losses with DK. In my opinion, there’s no real chemistry between DK and Geno, so we might as well use that money to rebuild. Plus, we should get younger as a team, allowing the roster to grow together and ultimately reach our Super Bowl destiny.

The issue with that is, while there are moves to make to free up cap space without touching Geno. It may sound counterproductive but Extending Geno frees up the most money to bring in better quality players. Also, by extending Geno it doesn't mean he's here the length of his contract. Sure it's eating likely $20-$30 mil next year or something along those lines but the cap keeps going up so it's a kick in the bucket at that point (I wish my life was as simple as eating $20-$30 million like it's nothing.) The point is, extending Geno actually gives you a lot more options and freedom. If we had the heir apparent in the room today that would be one thing, but we don't.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Three key points:

1. What Geno wants? A long-term contract with guaranteed money.
2. What Seahawks want? Finish the current contract or a long-term contract with no guaranteed money.
3. Who decides? Schneider. He hasn't said a word about the situation.

See, the team's interest and Geno's isn't lining up, Geno will stay and play only if there are no other suitors.

Macdonald and Schneider are playing the good cop bad cop.

Well said.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Per recent reporting from Corbin Smith, Ian Rapoport, and Tom Pelissero, they are working on a contract extension and Macdonald isn't just doing 'coach speak' (something, to this point, he has been inherently terrible at anyway) and Corbin Smith flat out says he would be surprised if he isn't extended before the start of the league year.

Apparently, players and coaches in the building mostly believe in Geno, which is all the proof you need that trying to discern locker room dynamics from a handful of sideline shots of a player being upset is an inexact science at best.


The hand wringing over Geno seems to me to be a little over the top, anyway, and a function of how not only NFL teams overrate QBs, but so do NFL fans.

We've been getting solid B grade level play for below market rate for 3 seasons now. That's what you WANT a team to be doing. This is the opposite of holding your team back. Geno is holding our team back no more than say Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, or Trevor Lawrence are holding their teams back (and frankly has been a better value for dollar than both Herbert and Lawrence).

Having your starting QB give you above average performance for below market rate puts our team firmly in the position to continue building out the rest of the team however they want.

Is Geno Smith the "future" of this team? No, he's 34. You can't count on guys that age more than a season or two at a time. But you know what else you can't do? You can't build a team for more than a few seasons at a time anyway.

Should the Seahawks draft a QB if they see one they like? Absolutely.
Does having Geno Smith on the roster prevent that move in some way? Absolutely not.

This.

 

[Double Tribble]

Quite sure that both Schneider and Macdonald peruse .NET, your valuable input will be evaluated by our front office and coaching staff.

As well they should. LOL.

 

[Double Tribble]

I'll start one too: Why do we never talk about geNO?

Geno who?

 

[Scout]

My position on Geno is that his cap number can never become too high which would hurt the team's ability to re-sign or bring in players. QB's being over paid and having a high cap number have knee capped a lot franchises and continue to do so to an extent (eg Broncos, Browns and Falcons).

If they want to re-sign Geno he has to take a team friendly and cap friendly deal to be able to build a team around him. Without that overpaying for Geno doesn't make sense because Geno isn't going to carry this team into the playoffs on his shoulders alone.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Per recent reporting from Corbin Smith, Ian Rapoport, and Tom Pelissero, they are working on a contract extension and Macdonald isn't just doing 'coach speak' (something, to this point, he has been inherently terrible at anyway) and Corbin Smith flat out says he would be surprised if he isn't extended before the start of the league year.

Apparently, players and coaches in the building mostly believe in Geno, which is all the proof you need that trying to discern locker room dynamics from a handful of sideline shots of a player being upset is an inexact science at best.


The hand wringing over Geno seems to me to be a little over the top, anyway, and a function of how not only NFL teams overrate QBs, but so do NFL fans.

We've been getting solid B grade level play for below market rate for 3 seasons now. That's what you WANT a team to be doing. This is the opposite of holding your team back. Geno is holding our team back no more than say Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, or Trevor Lawrence are holding their teams back (and frankly has been a better value for dollar than both Herbert and Lawrence).

Having your starting QB give you above average performance for below market rate puts our team firmly in the position to continue building out the rest of the team however they want.

Is Geno Smith the "future" of this team? No, he's 34. You can't count on guys that age more than a season or two at a time. But you know what else you can't do? You can't build a team for more than a few seasons at a time anyway.

Should the Seahawks draft a QB if they see one they like? Absolutely.
Does having Geno Smith on the roster prevent that move in some way? Absolutely not.

Common sense straight talk right here. Refreshing.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Yup, I'm a doofus. What's epa standvfor ?

Expected points added. A number signifying value added per play.

 

[DeSeahawk]

Expected points added. A number signifying value added per play.

Thanks, Dude

 

[keasley45]

Per recent reporting from Corbin Smith, Ian Rapoport, and Tom Pelissero, they are working on a contract extension and Macdonald isn't just doing 'coach speak' (something, to this point, he has been inherently terrible at anyway) and Corbin Smith flat out says he would be surprised if he isn't extended before the start of the league year.

Apparently, players and coaches in the building mostly believe in Geno, which is all the proof you need that trying to discern locker room dynamics from a handful of sideline shots of a player being upset is an inexact science at best.


The hand wringing over Geno seems to me to be a little over the top, anyway, and a function of how not only NFL teams overrate QBs, but so do NFL fans.

We've been getting solid B grade level play for below market rate for 3 seasons now. That's what you WANT a team to be doing. This is the opposite of holding your team back. Geno is holding our team back no more than say Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, or Trevor Lawrence are holding their teams back (and frankly has been a better value for dollar than both Herbert and Lawrence).

Having your starting QB give you above average performance for below market rate puts our team firmly in the position to continue building out the rest of the team however they want.

Is Geno Smith the "future" of this team? No, he's 34. You can't count on guys that age more than a season or two at a time. But you know what else you can't do? You can't build a team for more than a few seasons at a time anyway.

Should the Seahawks draft a QB if they see one they like? Absolutely.
Does having Geno Smith on the roster prevent that move in some way? Absolutely not.

Thats about sums it up.

 

[OrangeGravy]

I've never said we need to tank. Everyone keeps putting words in my mouth. Ive said over and over that someone else should start, because there's a chance they could be better than Geno, which is a win for the team. And if they aren't better, that's also a win, because it sets us up better in the short term. It's a win win. With Geno, there's no win win there. There are just excuses, and more time wasted, and more fans losing interest because this mediocrity is about as fun as watching paint dry. I fail to see how another year of this helps anyone.

That's just a cowards way of tanking. If you want to tank just own it.

 

[Double Tribble]

I'll start one too: Why do we never talk about geNO?

Geno who?

That's just a cowards way of tanking. If you want to tank just own it.

If you seriously think there's no way to move on from Geno without tanking, you're not trying very hard. If you want to be intellectuality lazy, just own it.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Geno who?

If you seriously think there's no way to move on from Geno without tanking, you're not trying very hard. If you want to be intellectuality lazy, just own it.

The only real upgrade that is available is Sam Darnold and that comes with more question marks than Geno, plus he will cost you a lot more being younger. Sure there's a possibility a Sam Howell can do better than Geno but there is no evidence of that. Geno is in the top half of the league as a QB so why throw that away when you don't have a true succession plan in place. Trying to win now sends a message to your players and others around the league. Tanking, which is essentially what you're saying, sends an adverse message to your players and players around the league. Geno is under contract for 2025. The only ways to move on from him are trading, which nobody is going to do for a 35 year old QB or by cutting him. Cutting him sends an extremely bad message with no one to truly turn to.

 

[Ozzy]

I still think its way to premature to say no one in the draft is potentially an upgrade. I totally understand being skeptical and it doesn't look like there is anyone now but lots of things change. It's possible John has someone in the draft he loves. It's a long shot but wouldn't be the first time.

Still think they extend Geno, have an annual out clause at no cost to them and they draft someone in the 2nd/3rd round with the hope they can take over after next year. If after a year of watching them in practice they don't feel confident they probably draft another guy until they get it right.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He doesn't deserve an extension, imo. But IF the extension gives the Hawks an out after each of the 2025, 2026 and 2027 seasons? As in the TEAM'S choice to move on after any of the upcoming seasons? Fine.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

He doesn't deserve an extension, imo. But IF the extension gives the Hawks an out after each of the 2025, 2026 and 2027 seasons? As in the TEAM'S choice to move on after any of the upcoming seasons? Fine.

Thats what they are going to do. Just like his current contract. It just makes the most sense. It gives you a capable QB for now and time to find the next guy. They hope sooner than later but QB's are so hit or miss. The other main reason they extend him is it lowers his cap hit substantially allowing them to fill more holes or with better players. It's really a win-win to extend him regardless how fans feel about him.