Garrett: Worth Pursuing?

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Teams trade for highly skilled vet edge rushers when they think they are close to being super bowl champs. Seahawks are not there yet. Pass.
 

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I'd stay away from him. He'd be an immediate upgrade over anything that we have, but he's not really addressing the Seahawks core issues.

Run defense was rough, but after we switched out our linebackers that issue was a lot better. Pass rush was also not too shabby either. Boye Mafe is extremely hot and cold, but despite not having a guy, we still were able to generate pressure despite our best pass rusher being injured all year.

I love Garrett, but we honestly don't have a place for a 29 year old DE that is going to be 30 come December. He's not that one piece that is going to get us over the top. We already have significant investment in Leo Williams, who was among one of the best at his position last year despite what the lack of probowl or AP voting might say. PFF even backs this up having him rated as the 4th best DLINE in the NFL this year. Big Kat was a monster.

Having both of these guys would be intriguing but given our salary cap restraints and holes elsewhere it probably wouldn't be the best move.
 

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Dre jones, Nwosu, Fant and Lockett all get cut or restructured though. They will be fine
There's also the 'trade DK' movement for cap.

The question is: who the F would you replace him with.
 

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I'd stay away from him. He'd be an immediate upgrade over anything that we have, but he's not really addressing the Seahawks core issues.

Run defense was rough, but after we switched out our linebackers that issue was a lot better. Pass rush was also not too shabby either. Boye Mafe is extremely hot and cold, but despite not having a guy, we still were able to generate pressure despite our best pass rusher being injured all year.

I love Garrett, but we honestly don't have a place for a 29 year old DE that is going to be 30 come December. He's not that one piece that is going to get us over the top. We already have significant investment in Leo Williams, who was among one of the best at his position last year despite what the lack of probowl or AP voting might say. PFF even backs this up having him rated as the 4th best DLINE in the NFL this year. Big Kat was a monster.

Having both of these guys would be intriguing but given our salary cap restraints and holes elsewhere it probably wouldn't be the best move.
I agree, personally.

We were a top 10 team in terms of pass rush/QB pressure. I'd rather we focus on IOL and ILB if we're trying for a big FA signing/trade.

But to play Devil's advocate, it's not at all crazy for a team to make the choice of, rather than try to shore up every weakness, double down on a strength. If this teams goes from a top 10, to a top 5 or top 3 team in pressure rate/sack rate, what does this team look like?

We were just shy of being a top 5 defense. Throw in Garrett, we probably cross that threshold and easily. It's possible to ride that level of defensive performance a long way into the post-season.


That said, I'd still rather spend the money elsewhere. Let's re-sign Jones IV, see if we can land Trey Smith or Mekhi Becton at G (let's grab whichever one doesn't win the Super Bowl... or whichever one does. Whatever.), and maybe get another upgrade at ILB to pair with Jones.

Then let's use our draft picks to, you know... draft picks.
 

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I agree, personally.

We were a top 10 team in terms of pass rush/QB pressure. I'd rather we focus on IOL and ILB if we're trying for a big FA signing/trade.

But to play Devil's advocate, it's not at all crazy for a team to make the choice of, rather than try to shore up every weakness, double down on a strength. If this teams goes from a top 10, to a top 5 or top 3 team in pressure rate/sack rate, what does this team look like?

We were just shy of being a top 5 defense. Throw in Garrett, we probably cross that threshold and easily. It's possible to ride that level of defensive performance a long way into the post-season.


That said, I'd still rather spend the money elsewhere. Let's re-sign Jones IV, see if we can land Trey Smith or Mekhi Becton at G (let's grab whichever one doesn't win the Super Bowl... or whichever one does. Whatever.), and maybe get another upgrade at ILB to pair with Jones.

Then let's use our draft picks to, you know... draft picks.
I get what you're saying here too, I just don't think this team would automatically be pushed into the post season because of Garrett. At a -25 million cap, just affording him would be an issue. That would mean potentially cutting and trading guys that are contributors. I don't think this team is ready for a deep run even with Garrett at the DE position opposite of Leo.
 

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I get what you're saying here too, I just don't think this team would automatically be pushed into the post season because of Garrett. At a -25 million cap, just affording him would be an issue. That would mean potentially cutting and trading guys that are contributors. I don't think this team is ready for a deep run even with Garrett at the DE position opposite of Leo.
Being a top 5 unit--on either offense or defense--is almost always a ticket into the playoffs. The 5 defenses above us all made the playoffs (and one is about to play in the Super Bowl). Heck, every defense in the top 10 made the playoffs besides us and... well, Cleveland, which doesn't help my point but to be fair, they were the worst offense in the league.

That said, I do worry about creating new holes by trading away contributors to get Garrett (particularly if we give up anyone on the defensive side of the ball).
 

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I'd stay away from him. He'd be an immediate upgrade over anything that we have, but he's not really addressing the Seahawks core issues.

Run defense was rough, but after we switched out our linebackers that issue was a lot better. Pass rush was also not too shabby either. Boye Mafe is extremely hot and cold, but despite not having a guy, we still were able to generate pressure despite our best pass rusher being injured all year.

I love Garrett, but we honestly don't have a place for a 29 year old DE that is going to be 30 come December. He's not that one piece that is going to get us over the top. We already have significant investment in Leo Williams, who was among one of the best at his position last year despite what the lack of probowl or AP voting might say. PFF even backs this up having him rated as the 4th best DLINE in the NFL this year. Big Kat was a monster.

Having both of these guys would be intriguing but given our salary cap restraints and holes elsewhere it probably wouldn't be the best move.
Agree 100%

If the oline was established then maybe, but yeah
 

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We'd have to work CAP magic to get him, and that's before you even get into the needed draft capital it would take to get him.

But the Washington Commanders...seems like a helluva landing spot to me.
 

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Fair enough. And for the record, I'm very glad he's gone. Pretty ridiculous to act like someone would go down on the dude. Classy. But I'm sure it'll just get glossed over and is no big deal. Though I did laugh. I don't mind a good Roast :ROFLMAO: :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, we're stuck with geDIOCRE gePICK

Back on topic, of course he's worth pursuing. Just don't see it happening. You could argue he's the best D Lineman in the NFL.
 
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Back on topic, of course he's worth pursuing. Just don't see it happening. You could argue he's the best D Lineman in the NFL.
Now that Aaron Donald has retired, totally. I'm just really lukewarm on building a team through free agency anymore, leave that to the Jets. Build through the draft and when you're on the verge of making a run, maybe you bring in a hot veteran to get over the top. I think JS and MM are of a similar mindset.
 

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Garrett is not only the best defensive player in the league, I'd argue it's not even close. You put him and Leonard Williams on the same line: how the hell do you even stop that?

If we're interested, I doubt we'd be able to put together the best package though. We don't have much in the way of premium draft picks or good trade assets.
We can’t have nice things…
 

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It'd certainly be nice but I can't see how the team could pull this trade off. The team at present doesn't fit what Garrett wants, i.e.: to be traded to a contender, instead of being on a losing/perpetually mediocre team.

The team certainly has other higher and bigger needs that might even be able to be filled this offseason.
 

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There isn't a team in the NFL that wouldn't love to have Garrett. The price tag is going to be enormous, probably starting with a couple 1st round picks. I'd hate to see them give up what it would take even though who wouldn't love seeing him in a Hawk uni.
 

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He's definitely worth it. It's just bad timing for the Hawks this off-season. There's way too many things this team needs to focus on.
 

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