SoulfishHawk
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Cool. That's the 12 mil I was thinking about when Clayton was talking about him the other day. Thx
RiverDog":3ufj80ii said:I don't mean to pick on Soulfish, but people keep telling me how Kam doesn't have a leg to stand on, that we hold all the cards in this dispute, and so on. But what difference does that make? Do you feel better because the contractual issues are on our side? What good does it do for our team that Kam doesn't have any legal or moral grounds for what he's doing?
HOLLYWOOD":2finw54x said:I've mentally 'IR'd him.. given the rash of injuries to our other NFC counterparts, it's about on par.
Most confusing, nonsensical, bullish holdout I've seen in a long time.
It's not about feeling better. Nobody feels better. But in situations like this, normally there is an animated difference of opinions between fans, blaming the player vs. blaming the team, etc. Kam not having a leg to stand on makes it far easier for most people know where the fault lies.RiverDog":1rghg72b said:I don't mean to pick on Soulfish, but people keep telling me how Kam doesn't have a leg to stand on, that we hold all the cards in this dispute, and so on. But what difference does that make? Do you feel better because the contractual issues are on our side? What good does it do for our team that Kam doesn't have any legal or moral grounds for what he's doing?
The trade deadline is after week 8 (Nov 3). Kam continuing to hold out in week 11 means he is done for the season.RiverDog":14qiv5w5 said:I agree with all of that except I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of a trade. I agree that it's unlikely, but if Kam is still sitting out in Week 11, we'd be foolish not to at least consider the possibility.NewJerseyHawk":14qiv5w5 said:Seattle is not going to trade him, they will let him heal up, sit out vs playing here and being at 65 to 70% and him perhaps helping or perhaps not helping on game day.
BlueTalon":3e0iuwac said:The trade deadline is after week 8 (Nov 3). Kam continuing to hold out in week 11 means he is done for the season.RiverDog":3e0iuwac said:I agree with all of that except I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of a trade. I agree that it's unlikely, but if Kam is still sitting out in Week 11, we'd be foolish not to at least consider the possibility.NewJerseyHawk":3e0iuwac said:Seattle is not going to trade him, they will let him heal up, sit out vs playing here and being at 65 to 70% and him perhaps helping or perhaps not helping on game day.
That said, I agree about considering possible trade options, if the trade offers come from other teams. I still think Kam could get us quite a large return, higher than most people around here think. It depends on other teams' situations, how desperate they are, how close they think they are to playoff contention, etc.
seahawks08":24vu1v9p said:BlueTalon":24vu1v9p said:The trade deadline is after week 8 (Nov 3). Kam continuing to hold out in week 11 means he is done for the season.RiverDog":24vu1v9p said:I agree with all of that except I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of a trade. I agree that it's unlikely, but if Kam is still sitting out in Week 11, we'd be foolish not to at least consider the possibility.NewJerseyHawk":24vu1v9p said:Seattle is not going to trade him, they will let him heal up, sit out vs playing here and being at 65 to 70% and him perhaps helping or perhaps not helping on game day.
That said, I agree about considering possible trade options, if the trade offers come from other teams. I still think Kam could get us quite a large return, higher than most people around here think. It depends on other teams' situations, how desperate they are, how close they think they are to playoff contention, etc.
Trading him means you are essentially giving in to increase his pay. The league does not want to set a precedent. All GMs in the league does not want Seahawks to cave in period. It sets a bad precedent for all other players and the whole league can have a bunch of hold out players who want to get paid more. I don't think Seahawks will blink even if they want to. Paul Allen reportedly asked to stop all negotiations couple of weeks ago. What I make of it as the owners are all of the opinion not to cave in and given in on a 3 year left contract. It is a tough situation to be in, but the ball is in Kams court, season win or lose, there is nothing Seahawks can do anymore. Probably waive the fines are the only leeway Seahawks have at this point and that might also go out the window if this continues. I am shocked that Kam does not realize how me he stands to lose purely by holding out.
olyfan63":7h0j57uc said:I would be interested in seeing the thread continue long enough to get the "actual" financial consequences that occur. Or, if locking, a link to the thread where the financial consequences are being discussed.