FG: Russell has become a turnover machine

[SantaClaraHawk]

And I may be a Russ homer or whatever, but after what we have seen from this guy over the years? I can't fathom being overly concerned about this guy. Very few have come back after off games like this guy has.
He didn't just become some second tier QB because he's had a little slump for HIS standards.
How spoiled and unrealistic has this fanbase become? Wow

It was always unrealistic for anyone to assume Russell alone could carry the team with the RB deficit and especially the defense. He has a distinctive style, and it's always been on opponents to try to pick it apart, and it's working. Put severe pressure on a QB, they're more likely to cough up the ball.

My concern is that in the past few games, the look in his eyes has been, idk sleepy. Fatigued, as reflected in his performance. A three-turnover game is usually death.

 

[RCATES]

The O-Line has been much improved. Russ is just being Russ. Falling off a cliff at a certain point every year is what he does. What is it 4 games now? About to be 5.

 

[PNW]

If someone make $30 million a year, they better be damn good at their job (which he has been) Once he starts losing us games like Sunday I’m allowed to criticize, my opinion is he’s doing too much off the field and getting away from what made him great. He 100% lost us this game with three crucial turnovers (two picks and one fumble he had his hands on and refused to just fall on the ball) People can label me whatever they want, it’s just their opinion, it’s not gonna ruin my day.

What do you suggest? Trading him?

No not necessarily, I think Russ possibly needs to chill out on extra activities outside of football during the season especially when him and our OC need to study to figure out how to remedy this new plan defenses have to attack Russ. Him saying he’s already the best QB in the league right now on his podcast and in interviews also makes me nervous, he used to say he strives to be the best ever, maybe he’s losing that hunger a little bit? However if Russ keeps up this super bad turnover issue he’s had this year and the coaching staff had some crazy plan to offload Russ maybe I could be on board with that, I can understand how having a QB making $30 million a year turning the ball over a ton would be hard to deal with. At the end of the day I’m a Seahawks fan above any players or coaches.

Russ is not your busboy. He can have a life outside of football and getting 30 million a year is average for him at this point. No other QB has been asked to shoulder as much as he does. Not one.

Any fan who’s that frustrated by his streak of turnovers is a selfish spoiled brat. Brees, Brady, Mahomes have had more interceptions in a season. Let’s trade him if that’s how most of you feel. I visit other forums and very few fans bash their successful franchise QB more than a certain group of Hawks fans. His good years aren’t good enough. His out of this world streak of games is supposed to be the “norm” when no other QB was playing at that level at the time. And now that he has a rough stretch all the nasty comments are coming out. It’s disturbing. We can criticize his play without being over the top

Nothing I said was a nasty comment. A busboy has way less on their plate combined with lower expectations and can get away with more and still maintain being a great busboy. I didn’t say he can’t do anything I said “Russ possibly needs to chill out on extra activities outside of football during the season” to be the best QB in the league takes a ton of dedication (which he has mostly done during his career), however this year we can all see he’s doing more outside of football (which may be fine) but something seems off so I’m searching for answers. Don’t forget he wanted all this extra attention with ”Let Russ Cook” an MVP and self proclaimed best QB in the league so with that, when he starts turning the ball over at the rate he has the past month (10 or so times) then makes crippling errors like letting the play clock run out on 3rd and short or the intentional the grounding, it makes one think, potentially he’s spreading himself too thin? He looked exhausted and defeated like I’ve never seen him look yesterday on the bench. I will say it shows a ton about who you really are when you resort to name calling fans who have different perspectives other than you. If you want to be immature that’s fine, no need to throw a temper tantrum and start calling people spoiled brats, grow up, this is just a sport we’re allowed to have different opinions.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I think Russ has a case of the Carr Syndrome to be honest. Yes, he's trying to do to much, but he's also getting killed back there. I think it might be time to start talking about this supposedly upgraded Oline some. I'm worried about Russ and I seriously think this might be the year he doesnt make it for the entire season.

 

[Chapow]

The O-Line has been much improved. Russ is just being Russ. Falling off a cliff at a certain point every year is what he does. What is it 4 games now? About to be 5.

He had a very poor game yesterday. By far his worst of the season. His last three games before yesterday,

390 yards, 2 TDs, 2 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
261 yards, 4 TDs, 0 ints. Seahawks scored 37 points.
388 yards, 3 TDs, 3 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
His lowest completion percentage in any of those 3 games was 66%.

So basically what you're saying is that anything but 300-400 yards with 4-5 TDs and 0 ints = falling off a cliff. Which is absurdly unreasonable for any QB on any team.

 

[John63]

He’s too worried about his podcast now days

Interesting how all your posts about Wilson are negative and implying he does not care. Hmm

“Interesting how all your posts about Wilson are negative.” You should do some home work on my post history all year before you type something as dumb as that. Don’t be butt hurt when I call it like I see it.

I did my point stands

 

[John63]

He’s too worried about his podcast now days

Interesting how all your posts about Wilson are negative and implying he does not care. Hmm

Better get out the troll repellent...lol

If someone make $30 million a year, they better be damn good at their job (which he has been) Once he starts losing us games like Sunday I’m allowed to criticize, my opinion is he’s doing too much off the field and getting away from what made him great. He 100% lost us this game with three crucial turnovers (two picks and one fumble he had his hands on and refused to just fall on the ball) People can label me whatever they want, it’s just their opinion, it’s not gonna ruin my day.

Well at least now you say its your opinion, which means nothing. I have no problem saying he played bad, In fact I did in the game forum. I do have a problem making crap up, when you really have no clue.

 

[John63]

I don't think Russ doesn't care, it's more that he, and really we, are being figured out.

We no longer have a running threat, so they do what anyone would--run a blitz to force him into making a throw that ends in a turnover, then keep the ball against our hapless defense.

Same page... it started with the 4Q and OT of the Arizona game where the Cards did their disguised blitzes and the Hawks failed to pick it up, and AZ repeatedly hit and hurt Russell. Buffalo and the Rams did almost the exact same thing, to my eyes, with the same results. AZ provided the template. Schotty (and Russell) simply haven't adjusted. So we'll keep seeing this scheme either until Russell gets battered to a pulp and injured (and then Geno will see it) or until our Offense figures out and consistently punishes this scheme.

BING BING BING we have a winner and then add in we have become predictable again.

 

[PNW]

Interesting how all your posts about Wilson are negative and implying he does not care. Hmm

Better get out the troll repellent...lol

If someone make $30 million a year, they better be damn good at their job (which he has been) Once he starts losing us games like Sunday I’m allowed to criticize, my opinion is he’s doing too much off the field and getting away from what made him great. He 100% lost us this game with three crucial turnovers (two picks and one fumble he had his hands on and refused to just fall on the ball) People can label me whatever they want, it’s just their opinion, it’s not gonna ruin my day.

Well at least now you say its your opinion, which means nothing. I have no problem saying he played bad, In fact I did in the game forum. I do have a problem making crap up, when you really have no clue.

You have a problem that’s fine, just your opinion which doesn’t mean anything.

 

[PNW]

He’s too worried about his podcast now days

Interesting how all your posts about Wilson are negative and implying he does not care. Hmm

“Interesting how all your posts about Wilson are negative.” You should do some home work on my post history all year before you type something as dumb as that. Don’t be butt hurt when I call it like I see it.

I did my point stands

Reading my past posts would mean all year not just this past game if you actually did that you wouldn’t put 100% false things like that in this forum, I guess now you just want to flat out lie, didn't your mom raise you better than that? At least be honest with yourself and bring up data that supports your claim. I guarantee if you did you would know the truth is that this is the first game I’ve looked at Russ as a reason for concern.

 

[Washington49er]

He’s too worried about his podcast now days

Interesting how all your posts about Wilson are negative and implying he does not care. Hmm

Better get out the troll repellent...lol

What? Your team didn't exactly perform today.

Another statement that went right over your head SC. You know sometimes its better to not comment.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Sure hope he finds a cure for what is ailing him, and quick.

Guy looked like a zombie out there today.

We live and die with him. And right now, we dyin.....

This. He did look like a zombie - even didn't look right in the post-game presser. Having said that, maybe he didn't look right because he's had the crap beaten out of him for the past month! Post game looked more frustrated than zombie though.

 

[John63]

Sure hope he finds a cure for what is ailing him, and quick.

Guy looked like a zombie out there today.

We live and die with him. And right now, we dyin.....

This. He did look like a zombie - even didn't look right in the post-game presser. Having said that, maybe he didn't look right because he's had the crap beaten out of him for the past month! Post game looked more frustrated than zombie though.

That and a regression back to the old offense. Run, throw long, snap with 5 or less on clock. The old predictable stuff. Started in AZ.

 

[RCATES]

The O-Line has been much improved. Russ is just being Russ. Falling off a cliff at a certain point every year is what he does. What is it 4 games now? About to be 5.

He had a very poor game yesterday. By far his worst of the season. His last three games before yesterday,

390 yards, 2 TDs, 2 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
261 yards, 4 TDs, 0 ints. Seahawks scored 37 points.
388 yards, 3 TDs, 3 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
His lowest completion percentage in any of those 3 games was 66%.

So basically what you're saying is that anything but 300-400 yards with 4-5 TDs and 0 ints = falling off a cliff. Which is absurdly unreasonable for any QB on any team.

So his only decent game in the last 4 was against a Niners squad who is missing 75% of their starters on Defense. Gotcha

 

[IndyHawk]

Sure hope he finds a cure for what is ailing him, and quick.

Guy looked like a zombie out there today.

We live and die with him. And right now, we dyin.....

This. He did look like a zombie - even didn't look right in the post-game presser. Having said that, maybe he didn't look right because he's had the crap beaten out of him for the past month! Post game looked more frustrated than zombie though.

That and a regression back to the old offense. Run, throw long, snap with 5 or less on clock. The old predictable stuff. Started in AZ.

He held the ball too long from what a several people was saying John,
He does that a lot so expect that some of those sacks are on him.

 

[PNW]

The O-Line has been much improved. Russ is just being Russ. Falling off a cliff at a certain point every year is what he does. What is it 4 games now? About to be 5.

He had a very poor game yesterday. By far his worst of the season. His last three games before yesterday,

390 yards, 2 TDs, 2 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
261 yards, 4 TDs, 0 ints. Seahawks scored 37 points.
388 yards, 3 TDs, 3 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
His lowest completion percentage in any of those 3 games was 66%.

So basically what you're saying is that anything but 300-400 yards with 4-5 TDs and 0 ints = falling off a cliff. Which is absurdly unreasonable for any QB on any team.

So his only decent game in the last 4 was against a Niners squad who is missing 75% of their starters on Defense. Gotcha

@RC Yeah that’s a head scratcher, didn’t help that argument at all in my eyes, also you might as well add all the fumbles Russ has given up lately too.

 

[RCATES]

The O-Line has been much improved. Russ is just being Russ. Falling off a cliff at a certain point every year is what he does. What is it 4 games now? About to be 5.

He had a very poor game yesterday. By far his worst of the season. His last three games before yesterday,

390 yards, 2 TDs, 2 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
261 yards, 4 TDs, 0 ints. Seahawks scored 37 points.
388 yards, 3 TDs, 3 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
His lowest completion percentage in any of those 3 games was 66%.

So basically what you're saying is that anything but 300-400 yards with 4-5 TDs and 0 ints = falling off a cliff. Which is absurdly unreasonable for any QB on any team.

So his only decent game in the last 4 was against a Niners squad who is missing 75% of their starters on Defense. Gotcha

@RC Yeah that’s a head scratcher, didn’t help that argument at all in my eyes, also you might as well add all the fumbles Russ has given up lately too.

10 turnovers in the last 4 games for Russ. 1-3 in that stretch. But here comes the Russ apologist blaming it on Schotty, running game or the O-Line. Some things never change.

 

[Chapow]

The O-Line has been much improved. Russ is just being Russ. Falling off a cliff at a certain point every year is what he does. What is it 4 games now? About to be 5.

He had a very poor game yesterday. By far his worst of the season. His last three games before yesterday,

390 yards, 2 TDs, 2 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
261 yards, 4 TDs, 0 ints. Seahawks scored 37 points.
388 yards, 3 TDs, 3 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
His lowest completion percentage in any of those 3 games was 66%.

So basically what you're saying is that anything but 300-400 yards with 4-5 TDs and 0 ints = falling off a cliff. Which is absurdly unreasonable for any QB on any team.

So his only decent game in the last 4 was against a Niners squad who is missing 75% of their starters on Defense. Gotcha

So almost 400 yards, 3 TDs, 3 ints, and 34 points isn't even decent? And 261 yards, 4 TDs, 0 picks, and 37 points is merely decent? Gotcha.

Yes, he's turning the ball over way too much lately, but even with the turnovers throwing for almost 400 yards, multiple TDs, and putting up 34 points is pretty damn far from "falling off a cliff".

 

[Chapow]

He had a very poor game yesterday. By far his worst of the season. His last three games before yesterday,

390 yards, 2 TDs, 2 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
261 yards, 4 TDs, 0 ints. Seahawks scored 37 points.
388 yards, 3 TDs, 3 ints. Seahawks scored 34 points.
His lowest completion percentage in any of those 3 games was 66%.

So basically what you're saying is that anything but 300-400 yards with 4-5 TDs and 0 ints = falling off a cliff. Which is absurdly unreasonable for any QB on any team.

So his only decent game in the last 4 was against a Niners squad who is missing 75% of their starters on Defense. Gotcha

@RC Yeah that’s a head scratcher, didn’t help that argument at all in my eyes, also you might as well add all the fumbles Russ has given up lately too.

10 turnovers in the last 4 games for Russ. 1-3 in that stretch. But here comes the Russ apologist blaming it on Schotty, running game or the O-Line. Some things never change.

Yep, way too many turnovers and Russ deserves a share of the blame for the losses. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think I've seen anyone disputing that.

Here's the thing though, we still put up 34 points in both of our losses before yesterday. Surely even you can acknowledge that maybe Russ "falling off a cliff" wasn't the biggest problem.

Again. We put up 34 points... and lost... twice. You're damn right I'm putting a lot of the blame on the defense. You don't? It's all on Russ?