Falcons game thoughts

[Hawkpower]

Sure. Did we really steal one, though? We're a better team than Atlanta.

My point is more that I don't know if we can take much away from this win. It's certainly something for them to build upon, though. But I feel no more confident about our pass-blocking or run defense than I did going into this one.

There isn't a human alive who would have stated Seattle was better than Atlanta 24 hrs ago

Atlanta was torching opposing defenses and Seattle's much maligned (and deservedly so) defense held them to 14 at home

This is a flawed team. They aren't going to fix that this year. Seeing they can overcome those things and win tough games anyway should be encouraging. For us

 

[knownone]

Bijian Robinson is a top-five RB talent. Give the man his flowers. You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him. Tyler Allgeier is a very good RB also. Our offense went and got a lead and took the Falcons out of what they wanted to do. They wanted to Carolina us. (Remember that Carrol-era game where losing-record Carolina ran roughshod over our crappy run defense and won?) But Atlanta couldn't today because our offense was scoring. So it wasn't that Atlanta DIDN'T exploit our run defense weakness, it was that they COULDN'T because we turned it into a catch-up passing game. This led to our pass defense and pass rush rattling Cousins and Atlanta.

Hmm... I think Atlanta did exploit our run defense. What they couldn't do was put pressure on Geno. They got behind, abandoned the running game, and allowed our defense to do what they do best.

There isn't a human alive who would have stated Seattle was better than Atlanta 24 hrs ago

Atlanta was torching opposing defenses and Seattle's much maligned (and deservedly so) defense held them to 14 at home

This is a flawed team. They aren't going to fix that this year. Seeing they can overcome those things and win tough games anyway should be encouraging. For us

Okay? I'm currently living and, along with multiple other posters here, picked Seattle to win. Atlanta is not a very good team. Ben Solak on ESPN+ called them a "very fraudulent 4-2." Similarly, I said it was a great win, and I stand by my point. There is not much we can take away from this win to project forward because we were not tested in areas where we've struggled this season.

 

[SeAhAwKeR4life]

IDK, I think the Falcons are a good, not great team, but their RB room is great. So the defense is at least mid (ours).

BTW we're undefeated when Byron Murphy starts.

The offense has the potential for greatness. The new right tackle is a HUGE upgrade. I think we win the division, and lose in the divisional round.

 

[Hawkpower]

Hmm... I think Atlanta did exploit our run defense. What they couldn't do was put pressure on Geno. They got behind, abandoned the running game, and allowed our defense to do what they do best.

Okay? I'm currently living and, along with multiple other posters here, picked Seattle to win. Atlanta is not a very good team. Ben Solak on ESPN+ called them a "very fraudulent 4-2." Similarly, I said it was a great win, and I stand by my point. There is not much we can take away from this win to project forward because we were not tested in areas where we've struggled this season.

That’s the point you keep ignoring though

This team is going to struggle in those areas all year. We’re near the halfway point. We are who we are. It isn’t going to change this year. We don’t need any magic takeaways.

Your takeaway can just be: the hawks can beat good teams on the road despite being flawed.

Simple as that

 

[knownone]

That’s the point you keep ignoring though

This team is going to struggle in those areas all year. We’re near the halfway point. We are who we are. It isn’t going to change this year. We don’t need any magic takeaways.

Your takeaway can just be: the hawks can beat good teams on the road despite being flawed.

Simple as that

No. That "point" is your assumption. I see no reason Seattle can't improve in those areas. I picked them to win 11 games and the division. I understand you may not share those expectations, but please don't tell me how I should think/feel after a game.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

Jerrell is the starting RT, he earned the job today.

Tre Brown (hopefully) lost his starting job at CB today. Falcons have good receivers and they were for the most part kept in check. Happy for Coby too, he should play a lot more at safety going forward.

Spoon is in the right spot all the time, the plays will come.

K9 is terrific and this offense needs him healthy. His lateral quickness is top 3 in the NFL.

DK dominated a very good CB in Terrell today, looks like he just hyperextended his knee on that out of bounds shove. Hopefully he's healthy, nice bounce back game for him.

IOL and LB must be upgraded this offseason. LB play, specifically against the run, is garbage.

Mafe and Hall are really stepping up this year. Even if they don't generate a 'pressure' they are pretty consistently beating their man. Something the DL has not been able to do in a long time outside of Nwosu.

Murphy was getting doubled all game per usual, he's a stud.

Fant is back next week. I liked jerrell but it's one game and he still had good, bad and ugly parts today. Definitely happy with him as back up learning though.

 

[Hawkpower]

No. That "point" is your assumption. I see no reason Seattle can't improve in those areas. I picked them to win 11 games and the division. I understand you may not share those expectations, but please don't tell me how I should think/feel after a game.

At the halfway point in the season, you're only going to markedly improve those areas by improving personnel which isn't (to my knowledge) happening

That isn't an assumption or an opinion. It's just a reality

You can have your own thoughts of course, but then when you share them after a game expect others to challenge them when they are flawed

Take care

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

K9 is the kind of player that the team has to create plays for him. Not just running game, but passing game too and get those mismatches. He is too good not to use as a full fledged weapon.

 

[knownone]

At the halfway point in the season, you're only going to markedly improve those areas by improving personnel which isn't (to my knowledge) happening

That isn't an assumption or an opinion. It's just a reality

You can have your own thoughts of course, but then when you share them after a game expect others to challenge them when they are flawed

Take care

Okay. Well, let's test your reality. In week 7 of 2021, the Chiefs ranked 31st in defensive efficiency. They finished that year ranked 8th. They did not make any significant trades. How would you explain their improvement?

I don't care if you challenge my opinions. Bring it.

 

[keasley45]

There isn't a human alive who would have stated Seattle was better than Atlanta 24 hrs ago

Atlanta was torching opposing defenses and Seattle's much maligned (and deservedly so) defense held them to 14 at home

This is a flawed team. They aren't going to fix that this year. Seeing they can overcome those things and win tough games anyway should be encouraging. For us

In what universe is the way a team starts a guarantee of how they will finish?

ESPECIALLY when the team has a new staff, new scheme, new philosophy and has been riddled with injuries that make it more difficult for them to do the one thing that they need to do to be successful - learn how to play the scheme and do it together?

Your point woukd have SOME validity if you were talking about a team with a staff and players that have been in place for a few years. If coaches, players and scheme have been shown to be ineffective after having had acequate time to gel and settle in, then sure, one can make the argument that one or the other or both (coaching and personnell) have to change before in season improvement occurs.

None of that is the case in Seattle. And there are quite a few people who beleive the Seahawks THIS YEAR, are one of the top teams in the NFC. The fact that they have a winning record despite playing a 4th string RT, having sustained crippling injuries on defense, and not yet playing 'together' on either side of the ball is evidence of that.

We didnt get blown out in Detroit. We were in position to win that game despite having virtually the entire deck stacked against us. What other offense in the league has trounced the Lions the way ours did? Not Minnesota... we can start there.

We were also in position to win against the Niners and didnt, not because they outplayed us or were the better team, but because we beat ourselves. Players, coaches have to a man said as much.

And the loss to the Giants. Depsite NOT EVEN SHOWING UP for the game , we should have taken it to overtime at a minimum. And again, to a man, the team admitted that they were looking toward the 9ers matchup and underestimated the Giants.

And forget that this young, injured and yet to gel team lost those games in a stretch where they played 3 games in 11 days - no time to get healthy. No time to get communication or scheme down the way they should, and with a coaching staff on BOTH sides of the ball still figuring out how to handle various situations.

The team is far too talented to look at this season and say - they arent ready in 24. They havent even hit their strude and are 4-3 and have been in every game they lost.

Its cool to have an opinion, just be careful to not pitch it as universal fact ehen you say things like 'no one' thought the Hawks were a better team...

Sounds like spin in 2022 when some said 'no one' could have predicted that Geno would play well.

 

[Uk HD Seahawk]

Good win in Atlanta

Barring Bijan Robinson (elite RB) I felt the Falcons didn't threaten much

Finally the Defence got some stops & our secondary looked good for the most part

Noah Fant finally getting some catches to get us down the field

Kenneth Walker looking the top level RB he is

Great TD play, Geno to DK

Hope we keep this level of play up

Go Hawks !

 

[Hawkpower]

In what universe is the way a team starts a guarantee of how they will finish?

ESPECIALLY when the team has a new staff, new scheme, new philosophy and has been riddled with injuries that make it more difficult for them to do the one thing that they need to do to be successful - learn how to play the scheme and do it together?

Your point woukd have SOME validity if you were talking about a team with a staff and players that have been in place for a few years. If coaches, players and scheme have been shown to be ineffective after having had acequate time to gel and settle in, then sure, one can make the argument that one or the other or both (coaching and personnell) have to change before in season improvement occurs.

None of that is the case in Seattle. And there are quite a few people who beleive the Seahawks THIS YEAR, are one of the top teams in the NFC. The fact that they have a winning record despite playing a 4th string RT, having sustained crippling injuries on defense, and not yet playing 'together' on either side of the ball is evidence of that.

We didnt get blown out in Detroit. We were in position to win that game despite having virtually the entire deck stacked against us. What other offense in the league has trounced the Lions the way ours did? Not Minnesota... we can start there.

We were also in position to win against the Niners and didnt, not because they outplayed us or were the better team, but because we beat ourselves. Players, coaches have to a man said as much.

And the loss to the Giants. Depsite NOT EVEN SHOWING UP for the game , we should have taken it to overtime at a minimum. And again, to a man, the team admitted that they were looking toward the 9ers matchup and underestimated the Giants.

And forget that this young, injured and yet to gel team lost those games in a stretch where they played 3 games in 11 days - no time to get healthy. No time to get communication or scheme down the way they should, and with a coaching staff on BOTH sides of the ball still figuring out how to handle various situations.

The team is far too talented to look at this season and say - they arent ready in 24. They havent even hit their strude and are 4-3 and have been in every game they lost.

Its cool to have an opinion, just be careful to not pitch it as universal fact ehen you say things like 'no one' thought the Hawks were a better team...

Sounds like spin in 2022 when some said 'no one' could have predicted that Geno would play well.

I agree with this, and perhaps you misunderstood what I said

I’m bullish on the hawks as well.

The post I was responding to was filled with negativity and I was countering that by implying it was ok to enjoy the ride with this growing but flawed team instead of nitpicking “takeaways”

The team will address its flaws that it can fix now, and the ones that are due to personnel deficits I’m sure they will address in the offseason

 

[SoulfishHawk]

There isn't a human alive who would have stated Seattle was better than Atlanta 24 hrs ago

Atlanta was torching opposing defenses and Seattle's much maligned (and deservedly so) defense held them to 14 at home

This is a flawed team. They aren't going to fix that this year. Seeing they can overcome those things and win tough games anyway should be encouraging. For us

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It just proves what you hear all the time: You just have to be the better team THAT DAY. And the Hawks clearly were the better team yesterday.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Good win in Atlanta

Barring Bijan Robinson (elite RB) I felt the Falcons didn't threaten much

Finally the Defence got some stops & our secondary looked good for the most part

Noah Fant finally getting some catches to get us down the field

Kenneth Walker looking the top level RB he is

Great TD play, Geno to DK

Hope we keep this level of play up

Go Hawks !

Watching post game, Raibs was saying that when Jen Mueller was interviewing K9, he was so tired and out of it he could barely talk. Bad flu. He had no business being out there, but showed how much of a team guy he is.

Bijan is a ridiculous football player. Damn.

 

[Ozzy]

I tried to watch Murphy more than I normally would focus on a d lineman and he was a force. Williams was too. Murphy as he settled in is going to be even more of an impact player.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Ironically, the most impressive play by Murphy, who played a good game, was him making a tackle way down field on the sidelines. No give up in that guy. And more importantly, it shows that hammy is doing well. Dude is pretty damn fast for his size, imo.

 

[WmHBonney]

Ironically, the most impressive play by Murphy, who played a good game, was him making a tackle way down field on the sidelines. No give up in that guy. And more importantly, it shows that hammy is doing well. Dude is pretty damn fast for his size, imo.

Agreed. I remember seeing him in pursuit after being double teamed at the line. I thought the same thing. This dude is the REAL DEAL. He was able to catch the runner and make a hit along the sideline.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

LOVE seeing hustle plays. Just like that block on the scoop and score by 21 spoon salute. You can't teach that. Like DK running down Baker. Guys that don't care don't make those kinds of plays.

 

[bileever]

Mike Sando in the Athletic pointed out that the Seahawks had the Falcons in 3rd and 6 or longer seven times, which we haven't done to a team since week 2. That was surprising, given how good Atlanta's running game is. The Falcons helped a little in the second half by abandoning the run so early.

It was a weird game. The Falcons had more yards and time of possession, and usually you don't win when the other team gets 155 yards on the ground and almost 400 yards of offense. Clearly, the three take-aways played a big role in the win. And Kirk Cousins didn't play very well, proving that he is still the Seahawks' b***h, regardless of who he plays for.

 

[Ostatehawk]

K9 is the kind of player that the team has to create plays for him. Not just running game, but passing game too and get those mismatches. He is too good not to use as a full fledged weapon.

Was KW not quite 100%? Seems like he was out of the game quite a bit. He had a phenomenal game and that TD catch was money. Just seemed like I saw other RB's more than I am used to when KW is 100% good to go.