Dont you dare blame injuries

[SeahawksCanuck]

I don't think the Vikings are a fair comparison. The replacements are better than the former starters.

That is insanity. Keenum is not better than either Bradford or Bridgewater. Murray is nowhere near as good as Dalvin Cook.

Bridgewater is extremely overrated. Look at his stats for his best year. They aren't good. Bradford had one good game. ONE. It was a phenomenal game, but it was the exception to the rule. Keenum is a baller. He actually has weapons around him. He is the best QB on that team when they're all healthy. Murray is a good starter in this league, and is a rare three down back. I'd gladly take him on the Hawks, any day of the week. Dalvin Cook is just exceptional, though. He is a game changer. He is the future of that franchise.

Bridgewater is unfairly criticized IMO. He was playing behind an OL that was about as bad as ours the past few years. The improvement in the OL and acquiring some better RBs helped the offense more than Keenum playing QB. Bradford has always been on garbage teams and he throws the ball really well and with excellent accuracy when protected.

Keenum is playing well but he is NOT a baller. Very few of his interceptable passes have been caught and his receivers have created many receptions on inaccurate throws. Thielen and Diggs are fantastic.

Bridgewater looked okay in past seasons, not great (but then again I wouldn't call Keenum's play great: he's done what he's needed to do with the rest of the team playing some really good football). The excitement around Bridgewater was really based on the idea that a lot of people thought he's take a big next step last season.

Bradford has played really well with the Vikings as far as a pocket passer goes (his scrambling game is extremely limited). But after a few games last season the Vikings had the worst oline in the league (yes, worse than the Seahawks). Bradford still looked pretty good making a bunch of short, accurate passers, but it it wasn't enough.

I don't think Keenum was an upgrade (although he does have a better scrambling game than Bradford) but he's done exactly what you need your backup players to do: not lose you games. He's going to get paid this offseason, and some team is going to regret that contract.

 

[2_0_6]

The Vikings lost 2 starting qbs and their starting rb. Look where they are. If fans here blame the injuries you need to check your head.

Did you really just compare Bridgewater, Bradford & Cook to Sherman, Avril, Kam, KJ, Proscise and Carson? Not to mention Bennett playing with a foot injury and Wagner with a gimpy hammy.

Wow.

 

[Cyrus12]

The Vikings lost 2 starting qbs and their starting rb. Look where they are. If fans here blame the injuries you need to check your head.

Did you really just compare Bridgewater, Bradford & Cook to Sherman, Avril, Kam, KJ, Proscise and Carson? Not to mention Bennett playing with a foot injury and Wagner with a gimpy hammy.

Wow.

Okay tell me how the defensive injuries resulted in poor offensive play? Imo the defence did alright even with the injuries. Lose a starting qb and a top rb is usually a death sentence in this league.

 

[Subzero717]

You could easily say we gave up the points we did today because of injuries. The offense and ST didn't show up and there's no good reason for it.

 

[Cyrus12]

You could easily say we gave up the points we did today because of injuries. The offense and ST didn't show up and there's no good reason for it.

So ST and offence played lousy because of the defence?

 

[2_0_6]

The Vikings lost 2 starting qbs and their starting rb. Look where they are. If fans here blame the injuries you need to check your head.

Did you really just compare Bridgewater, Bradford & Cook to Sherman, Avril, Kam, KJ, Proscise and Carson? Not to mention Bennett playing with a foot injury and Wagner with a gimpy hammy.

Wow.

Okay tell me how the defensive injuries resulted in poor offensive play? Imo the defence did alright even with the injuries. Lose a starting qb and a top rb is usually a death sentence in this league.

You really think that Bradford and Teddy Two Gloves are that much better than Keenum? That's comical really.

Cook looked great, but is a rookie and is FAR from proven. Now if you took away Sendejo, Everson Griffin, and Xavier Rhodes and they still played lights out then I would agree.

 

[rossob]

The Vikings lost 2 starting qbs and their starting rb. Look where they are. If fans here blame the injuries you need to check your head.

Did you really just compare Bridgewater, Bradford & Cook to Sherman, Avril, Kam, KJ, Proscise and Carson? Not to mention Bennett playing with a foot injury and Wagner with a gimpy hammy.

Wow.

Okay tell me how the defensive injuries resulted in poor offensive play? Imo the defence did alright even with the injuries. Lose a starting qb and a top rb is usually a death sentence in this league.

That's a good point. I think our Oline and playcalling was bad today and Russell wasn't able to bail us out with some magic either. Beyond that I don't know.
That the ST is so bad is a surprise to me, since the FO made a good effort to improve it and got D.J. Alexander, for example.

 

[WilsonMVP]

I don't think the Vikings are a fair comparison. The replacements are better than the former starters.

That is insanity. Keenum is not better than either Bradford or Bridgewater. Murray is nowhere near as good as Dalvin Cook.

The vikes have a different identity, they are built in the same mold as we were. Strong defense, have an offense that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. That they got a lot out of their offense this year was a bonus but if they took the defensive losses we took this year, take out Rhodes, Griffen, Smith and Barr and let them keep either starting qb and Cook and tell me they're anywhere as good as they are today. It's no excuse for our team to be as bad as they were today but just saying not all losses are equal, it depends on how your teams built as well.

If Bradford and Cook were healhty and playing the Vikings offense might be #1 in the league this year. When Cook got injured he was the #1 RB in week 4 and the Vikings running game has gotten BETTER since then as a team with the OL coming together and gaining XP. And Bradford can throw a good deep ball. That is probably the one weakness Keenum has in that his long throws are not that accurate.

In the offseason the Vikings priority was to improve the OL since it was god awful last year. They also got rid of Norv Turner as OC and the OL coach I believe late last year. Shurmur is a good OC and I wouldnt be shocked if he had another go at being a head coach. Losing some members of the D would hurt but the offense would still be able to move the ball unlike the Seahawks. What is the Seahawks excuse for the offense constantly being horrible.

The playcalling and OL are the two major differences from last years vikings to this year. Remember they started 5-0 last year until injuries started to mount on offense combined with awful playcalling with Norv.

At this point I would say Bradford, when healthy, is the best QB on the roster with Keenum being slightly better than Bridgewater since he hasnt had a meaningful snap in the regular season in almost 30 games

 

[rossob]

I don't think the Vikings are a fair comparison. The replacements are better than the former starters.

That is insanity. Keenum is not better than either Bradford or Bridgewater. Murray is nowhere near as good as Dalvin Cook.

Keenum seems to be better than Bradford imo. I mistook the Vikings for the Ravens at the RB position, thought they had Alex Collins.

 

[SeahawksCanuck]

I don't think the Vikings are a fair comparison. The replacements are better than the former starters.

That is insanity. Keenum is not better than either Bradford or Bridgewater. Murray is nowhere near as good as Dalvin Cook.

Keenum seems to be better than Bradford imo. I mistook the Vikings for the Ravens at the RB position, thought they had Alex Collins.

Behind a good offensive line I'd take Bradford over Keenum any day - I honestly think it's just pure luck that Keenum doesn't have more interceptions, he looks wildly inaccurate on long balls. Behind a spotty line, there's a decent argument for Keenum since he's actually a decent scrambler.

 

[WilsonMVP]

I don't think the Vikings are a fair comparison. The replacements are better than the former starters.

That is insanity. Keenum is not better than either Bradford or Bridgewater. Murray is nowhere near as good as Dalvin Cook.

Keenum seems to be better than Bradford imo. I mistook the Vikings for the Ravens at the RB position, thought they had Alex Collins.

Behind a good offensive line I'd take Bradford over Keenum any day - I honestly think it's just pure luck that Keenum doesn't have more interceptions, he looks wildly inaccurate on long balls. Behind a spotty line, there's a decent argument for Keenum since he's actually a decent scrambler.

Hes not just a decent scrambler...he is actually really freaking good at moving around in the pocket, something Bradford cannot do as well

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

The media (some on 710 espn, if you listen to them) will blame injuries.

News flash! All teams have injuries.

The difference is coaching and quality backups.

This front office has no idea how to game plan properly.

 

[fire_marshall_bill]

Injuries hit most teams. It doesn't excuse bad tackling and angles on both defense and ST. It's a factor, but it's not an excuse for a 35 point loss.

Time to blow this mfer up....enough...Bennett and probably Avril and Chancellor don't want to be there, so they can go elsewhere...

 

[misfit]

So if Minnesota lost Harrison Barnes Xavier Rhodes and Anthony Barr they would be doing just fine.