Don't be mad... Rams are wayyyy better than us 👍

[Sperrydogg]

Wut?

So are you trying to say we were way better the first game but lost and the rams were way better the second game but lost?

Just trying to keep up

Meant for @Somos doces

Too lazy to fix it

 

[Ostatehawk]

You know what's funnier?

You offering Mac Jones.

Oh Shit! I totally forgot someone offered up Mac Jones as a "solution".

 

[glenwo2]

We will know in 2026 / 2027

True. In a literal sense.

But I think if Darnold continues to help this team win games more than lose them, he'll be around for awhile.

 

[glenwo2]

Well that is not true.

Many QBs excel against pass rush and blitzes with quick throws that don't go to the defender

Making things up that sounds nice is common approach today, but doesn't make it any less wrong

Maybe credit the opposing Rams Defense?

 

[mikeak]

Maybe credit the opposing Rams Defense?

He has 13 interceptions "only" 6 are against the Rams

Did you watch him at the end of last season for the Vikings? It is a repeat of that

Let me be clear - NOTHING makes me happier than if he proves me 1000% wrong. Would love to eat crow as he excels. He is still young, but processing of information quickly has been a weakness last season and continues this season as teams play more and more complicated down the stretch of the season

 

[glenwo2]

He has 13 interceptions "only" 6 are against the Rams

Did you watch him at the end of last season for the Vikings? It is a repeat of that

Let me be clear - NOTHING makes me happier than if he proves me 1000% wrong. Would love to eat crow as he excels. He is still young, but processing of information quickly has been a weakness last season and continues this season as teams play more and more complicated down the stretch of the season

So you think those 2 picks he threw had zero to do with the Defense but Sam deciding "Hey! I have an idea! I'll just throw it to the other team!"?

 

[Seahawkfan80]

So you think those 2 picks he threw had zero to do with the Defense but Sam deciding "Hey! I have an idea! I'll just throw it to the other team!"?

Tis the season for giving.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

On a more serious note, We beat the Refs.

 

[hox]

Rams in two games win the turnover margin like 7-0 and still only win by 2 and lose by 1.

Seahawks must be A LOT better than those sorry losers.

We have the better special teams.

 

[GemCity]

So you think those 2 picks he threw had zero to do with the Defense but Sam deciding "Hey! I have an idea! I'll just throw it to the other team!"?

Mannnnn.. @glenwo2 , one was definitely a clever scheme shift by McVay’s linebacker crew. They read it perfectly.

The INT by their DT, I do think Sam decided to throw it to the other team .

Overall though, I don’t necessarily blame Sam. I DO think the turnovers need to get under control. But, Kubiak isn’t doing him any favors. That was some putrid playcalling until the 4th.

 

[glenwo2]

Mannnnn.. @glenwo2 , one was definitely a clever scheme shift by McVay’s linebacker crew. They read it perfectly.

The INT by their DT, I do think Sam decided to throw it to the other team .

Overall though, I don’t necessarily blame Sam. I DO think the turnovers need to get under control. But, Kubiak isn’t doing him any favors. That was some putrid playcalling until the 4th.

Yeah. If you read my overview of the game (i think you did), you saw how I saw that 2nd pick as NY Jets'ish Sam Darnold.

That was UGLY with a capital UGLY.

It was like he was going to throw it there no matter what.

Pre-determined passes are the bane of Sam's existence and I really hate them.

 

[GemCity]

Yeah. If you read my overview of the game (i think you did), you saw how I saw that 2nd pick as NY Jets'ish Sam Darnold.

That was UGLY with a capital UGLY.

It was like he was going to throw it there no matter what.

Pre-determined passes are the bane of Sam's existence and I really hate them.

Yep yep! Definitely read it.

You know how the threads get ‘jumbled’…just reiterating for congruence!

Agree %

 

[keasley45]

So you think those 2 picks he threw had zero to do with the Defense but Sam deciding "Hey! I have an idea! I'll just throw it to the other team!"?

If you flip through some of the analysis of the picks, yeah, the first one was dubious and should have been checked out of or not thrown. The 2nd one was just a bad decision, albeit a nice drop by the DL to make the play.

Here is the issue with Sam. If you watch him presnap, he has a really bad habit of, on occassion, locking on too quickly to a route and then if he sees 'enough' of what he wants, he will let fly. In other instances, when he goes through his progressions, he is incredible, but if you think back to 5 of his 6 INTs vs the Rams now, they all came on reads where he decided where he was going with the ball before the snap and stayed there. That tendency makes it easy to bait him and the Rams have done that on all but 1 of the picks he gave them across 2 games.

His first INT to Kupp game 1 - locked on so much the DB had time to cross the field.

2nd to JSN game 1 locked on and never read the rest of the field,he read wrong and let it fly

3rd to Arroyo game 1 - same deal. Wrong decision but he let it fly.

1st INT yesterday. Locked in from presnap and let it go.

2nd INT yesterday. Pre snap determination and he just let it go.

I think this is all compounded by the fact that it seems like defenses are reading something in his mannerisms that key them in to where he is going with the ball. Even the tipped backward pass / 2 point pat, Verse knew exactly what Sam was going to do. You can argue that that's good planning by the D, but you can't argue the fact that Sam is tossing it over at an unsustainable rate and that the look of the INTs all have a base similarity - Sam locking on and working really quickly whether due to pressure or his own clock compelling him to throw it.

 

[Appyhawk]

As the Rams were in Game 1. They had like 250 yards. The ONLY reason the Rams won was the 4 turnovers. And come on, Myers is capable of making that kick, he just shanked it. It was VERY lucky for the Rams to win game 1. The difference in game 2 is that the he Hawks TOOK IT. Homer or not, I haven't been this proud of the team in a long time. The "We won, but" crowd is a trip. But I'm here for it.

Buckle up pard cause I'm just getting started with the "but" part. That's in spite of being downright jubilant over our monster WIN last night!

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Darnold stared down his guys on both of his picks. He's a damn hero today, but it doesn't mean we need to lie to ourselves about what he did.

And his last two scoring throws were both successful precisely because he looked defenders off.

 

[Seahawker]

 

[warden]

I have been saying this all season long, I bet you the Vikings wish they kept Darnold

 

[warden]

If we win out, Darnold will have back to back regular seasons with 14 wins

There is problem a really small list of QBs in the history of this game that have done that

 

[Appyhawk]

Yeah. If you read my overview of the game (i think you did), you saw how I saw that 2nd pick as NY Jets'ish Sam Darnold.

That was UGLY with a capital UGLY.

It was like he was going to throw it there no matter what.

Pre-determined passes are the bane of Sam's existence and I really hate them.

"NY Jets'ish Sam Darnold."
He is not old so drop the ld. That leaves us with DARNO. And that is how I will refer to him from now on. Some time ago, prior to us parting ways with Geno, in a comparison of Darno to Geno I opined that it was a near wash. But at that time I gave the edge to Geno. Now that I have seen Darno play a number of games for us I believe he has the capacity to successfully make plays that Geno would choke on. But I have also seen that he habitually chokes in similar situations that became a habit for Geno to choke on. So, Darno it is. Count me amoung the "but" crowd until we PROVE that we have solved the turnover issues.

 

[hox]

If you flip through some of the analysis of the picks, yeah, the first one was dubious and should have been checked out of or not thrown. The 2nd one was just a bad decision, albeit a nice drop by the DL to make the play.

Here is the issue with Sam. If you watch him presnap, he has a really bad habit of, on occassion, locking on too quickly to a route and then if he sees 'enough' of what he wants, he will let fly. In other instances, when he goes through his progressions, he is incredible, but if you think back to 5 of his 6 INTs vs the Rams now, they all came on reads where he decided where he was going with the ball before the snap and stayed there. That tendency makes it easy to bait him and the Rams have done that on all but 1 of the picks he gave them across 2 games.

His first INT to Kupp game 1 - locked on so much the DB had time to cross the field.

2nd to JSN game 1 locked on and never read the rest of the field,he read wrong and let it fly

3rd to Arroyo game 1 - same deal. Wrong decision but he let it fly.

1st INT yesterday. Locked in from presnap and let it go.

2nd INT yesterday. Pre snap determination and he just let it go.

I think this is all compounded by the fact that it seems like defenses are reading something in his mannerisms that key them in to where he is going with the ball. Even the tipped backward pass / 2 point pat, Verse knew exactly what Sam was going to do. You can argue that that's good planning by the D, but you can't argue the fact that Sam is tossing it over at an unsustainable rate and that the look of the INTs all have a base similarity - Sam locking on and working really quickly whether due to pressure or his own clock compelling him to throw it.

Seems to be a predetermination issue, but gotta give credit to Shula for tricking him as well. Who would have thought they would drop a NT into zone. That's a MM move that Shula copied.