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So it's somehow his fault he's injured? And he somehow isn't working hard? Because I'm sure the fans know how hard or not a player has worked. Got it.
It's gonna' be ok. Drama town...…. :lol:

Who said that? My post was merely wondering if he was, nowhere did I say he was and in fact wrote that I had no way of knowing. There are some concerns with his body fat thing but like I posted, I don't really know.

In addition to that I have never said that he was a bad receiver or that he would be a bad receiver. I have been curious why there is so much hype surrounding a receiver that wasn't even the #1 receiver on his college team even when he was healthy.

People speculate about scenarios, that is 99% of what happens here but people want to ascribe words to you that you haven't even wrote. It's bizarre, it's like arguing with yourself.
 

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In addition to that I have never said that he was a bad receiver or that he would be a bad receiver. I have been curious why there is so much hype surrounding a receiver that wasn't even the #1 receiver on his college team even when he was healthy..

Because Joey Galloway was probably the last receiver we've drafted that we were this excited about.........that's how long it's been and how desperate the Hawk fanbase has been with the receiver group.
 

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I didn't say anyone in particular, but don't act like people don't throw the Injury Prone/Wasted Pick/Bust thing out there all the time.
We can agree to disagree on this point. Acting like he doesn't deserve to be on the team seems a little extreme. But oh well. You see it your way, I'll see it mine.
Do your thing DK, prove people wrong. Go Hawks
 

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Sgt. Largent":1llsff7g said:
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In addition to that I have never said that he was a bad receiver or that he would be a bad receiver. I have been curious why there is so much hype surrounding a receiver that wasn't even the #1 receiver on his college team even when he was healthy..

Because Joey Galloway was probably the last receiver we've drafted that we were this excited about.........that's how long it's been and how desperate the Hawk fanbase has been with the receiver group.

No love for Michael Bates??

I'm telling Norman!!!

Tenor
 

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xray":167toj7n said:
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I guess I'm just shocked at how quickly people turn on a player and/or just go in to the "he's injury prone" thing. Or "he's a bust of a wasted pick" off of one injury in pre-season. Geez man, relax and give the guy a chance.
When he got drafted, most of us were stoked. Shoot, it just makes me want him to succeed more after hearing some people bag on the guy already.

Who said he is injury prone ? Who said he is a bust or wasted pick ? You're making stuff up now . Explain to me why he should make the team as a starter . His combine performance and lack of body fat don't count . His college career wasn't exactly that stellar either. According to Carroll it's all about competing to make the team . Veteran starters get a pass to start again ; but Metcalf is a rookie that will make the roster apparently without competing for the job . IMO it's not fair to the other rookies that have to fight for a job . So once again ; tell me why he deserves to make the 53 .

Other than all these valid reasons which I am eliminating out of hand, give me one reason he should make the roster!

Not really a fair argument.

Because a substantial part of his appeal 8s his raw athleticism. His size, strength, explosiveness, speed, leaping ability.

Also his work ethic demonstrated in the gym, the film room, and the practice field.

Also his productivity demonstrated in practices per multiple reports, including a growing rapport with Russell Wilson.

All of which points to the reality that prior to this injury, he was trending towards starting, not because of his draft status, but because he had out performed all those other guys you mention in off season workouts and training camp practices.

And, all of that will be back and be motivated by week one according to all reports.

But I'm sure none of that counts for anything and every player who gets hurt should be instantly cut.
 

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Spot on. And man there are a lot of NFL players who don't deserve to be on a roster because of injuries in the pre-season. Many of them 1st rounders. :?
 

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SoulfishHawk":2c89iyg4 said:
I didn't say anyone in particular, but don't act like people don't throw the Injury Prone/Wasted Pick/Bust thing out there all the time.
We can agree to disagree on this point. Acting like he doesn't deserve to be on the team seems a little extreme. But oh well. You see it your way, I'll see it mine.
Do your thing DK, prove people wrong. Go Hawks

Nobody said that he didn't deserve to be on the team....I am asking WHY he deserves to be on the team . Enlighten us please .
 

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Seymour":2qvsqecw said:
Sgt. Largent":2qvsqecw said:
DomeHawk":2qvsqecw said:
In addition to that I have never said that he was a bad receiver or that he would be a bad receiver. I have been curious why there is so much hype surrounding a receiver that wasn't even the #1 receiver on his college team even when he was healthy..

Because Joey Galloway was probably the last receiver we've drafted that we were this excited about.........that's how long it's been and how desperate the Hawk fanbase has been with the receiver group.

No love for Michael Bates??

I'm telling Norman!!!

Tenor

Did we even let Bates play WR? I thought he was just a KR.

idk, I was always more of a Joe Jurevicius guy.
 

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xray":umjxjl73 said:
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I didn't say anyone in particular, but don't act like people don't throw the Injury Prone/Wasted Pick/Bust thing out there all the time.
We can agree to disagree on this point. Acting like he doesn't deserve to be on the team seems a little extreme. But oh well. You see it your way, I'll see it mine.
Do your thing DK, prove people wrong. Go Hawks

Nobody said that he didn't deserve to be on the team....I am asking WHY he deserves to be on the team . Enlighten us please .

What exactly are you saying in these posts if not that you think Metcalf shouldnt make the team because he is injured and therefore unable to compete?
 

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Sgt. Largent":xvut878j said:
Seymour":xvut878j said:
Sgt. Largent":xvut878j said:
DomeHawk":xvut878j said:
In addition to that I have never said that he was a bad receiver or that he would be a bad receiver. I have been curious why there is so much hype surrounding a receiver that wasn't even the #1 receiver on his college team even when he was healthy..

Because Joey Galloway was probably the last receiver we've drafted that we were this excited about.........that's how long it's been and how desperate the Hawk fanbase has been with the receiver group.

No love for Michael Bates??

I'm telling Norman!!!

Did we even let Bates play WR? I thought he was just a KR.

idk, I was always more of a Joe Jurevicius guy.

Well heck ya!!!

He put up 6 yards receiving his first year....but there was hype nonetheless!!! :twisted:

Galloway actually replaced his "speed spot" on the roster, I thought he was just after Joey but I was wrong there.
 

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Golden Tate had 21 catches and zero touchdowns as a rookie. In fact, was benched for not getting it at one point. Good thing they didn't give up on him. Just sayin
 

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SoulfishHawk":2t6iaq36 said:
Golden Tate had 21 catches and zero touchdowns as a rookie. In fact, was benched for not getting it at one point. Good thing they didn't give up on him. Just sayin

Yep! I remember them interviewing him on the UDFA and the play of Baldwin in his first year and Tate admitting he learned some things from "the rookie".
 

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McGruff":18bh7ph7 said:
xray":18bh7ph7 said:
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I didn't say anyone in particular, but don't act like people don't throw the Injury Prone/Wasted Pick/Bust thing out there all the time.
We can agree to disagree on this point. Acting like he doesn't deserve to be on the team seems a little extreme. But oh well. You see it your way, I'll see it mine.
Do your thing DK, prove people wrong. Go Hawks

Nobody said that he didn't deserve to be on the team....I am asking WHY he deserves to be on the team . Enlighten us please .

What exactly are you saying in these posts if not that you think Metcalf shouldnt make the team because he is injured and therefore unable to compete?

LOL...nice try with your translation of what I think . I know fans like you anointed Metcalf on draft day to be the savior for the Hawks . I know my grand sons did but they are teens . I only can deal with reality ; and reality is that Metcalf hasn't done anything yet to deserve a starting position served on a silver platter .
 

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The Savior? I doubt anyone on here has claimed that.
How dare people get excited about a player, oh the horror.
 

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xray":2b9vnffs said:
McGruff":2b9vnffs said:
xray":2b9vnffs said:
SoulfishHawk":2b9vnffs said:
I didn't say anyone in particular, but don't act like people don't throw the Injury Prone/Wasted Pick/Bust thing out there all the time.
We can agree to disagree on this point. Acting like he doesn't deserve to be on the team seems a little extreme. But oh well. You see it your way, I'll see it mine.
Do your thing DK, prove people wrong. Go Hawks

Nobody said that he didn't deserve to be on the team....I am asking WHY he deserves to be on the team . Enlighten us please .

What exactly are you saying in these posts if not that you think Metcalf shouldnt make the team because he is injured and therefore unable to compete?

LOL...nice try with your translation of what I think . I know fans like you anointed Metcalf on draft day to be the savior for the Hawks . I know my grand sons did but they are teens . I only can deal with reality ; and reality is that Metcalf hasn't done anything yet to deserve a starting position served on a silver platter .

Now who is putting words into others mouths m

I thought nothing of the sort.

I thought his athletic profile was intriguing, and while admittedly his demonstrated skillset was limited, it seemed tailored to what the Seahawks require (deep routes, back shoulder, comebacks, leaping catches).

I had and still have concerns about his hands.

I expected him to be a diva however, and have been pleasantly surprised by his work ethic and ambition.

But at the end of the day, you have still failed to answer my question.

Because I did not offer a "translation" of your posts. I simply reposted them with a simple question.

What exactly are YOU saying YOU think should happen with DK?
 

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xray":ihwe6hje said:
McGruff":ihwe6hje said:
xray":ihwe6hje said:
SoulfishHawk":ihwe6hje said:
I didn't say anyone in particular, but don't act like people don't throw the Injury Prone/Wasted Pick/Bust thing out there all the time.
We can agree to disagree on this point. Acting like he doesn't deserve to be on the team seems a little extreme. But oh well. You see it your way, I'll see it mine.
Do your thing DK, prove people wrong. Go Hawks

Nobody said that he didn't deserve to be on the team....I am asking WHY he deserves to be on the team . Enlighten us please .

What exactly are you saying in these posts if not that you think Metcalf shouldnt make the team because he is injured and therefore unable to compete?

LOL...nice try with your translation of what I think . I know fans like you anointed Metcalf on draft day to be the savior for the Hawks . I know my grand sons did but they are teens . I only can deal with reality ; and reality is that Metcalf hasn't done anything yet to deserve a starting position served on a silver platter .

Based on what? They have far more data from practice reps and camp than pre season games. Plus high draft choices are always going to get more leeway with ANY team.
 

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And if DK does eventually start, it wont have anything to do with a silver platter. It will be because he outworked the others in practice and playtime.
 

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McGruff":ijrn17a9 said:
And if DK does eventually start, it wont have anything to do with a silver platter. It will be because he outworked the others in practice and playtime.

Not so sure I agree with outworked. Could be but also could be he simply outran them!

See Percy Harvin for a recent example of that.
 

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Nah, a fan on his couch has decided that DK hasn't earned a spot. Forget what a bunch of coaches who know 10 time more than the rest of us know about football think.
 

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McGruff":12s6hqyk said:
xray":12s6hqyk said:
McGruff":12s6hqyk said:
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Nobody said that he didn't deserve to be on the team....I am asking WHY he deserves to be on the team . Enlighten us please .

What exactly are you saying in these posts if not that you think Metcalf shouldnt make the team because he is injured and therefore unable to compete?

LOL...nice try with your translation of what I think . I know fans like you anointed Metcalf on draft day to be the savior for the Hawks . I know my grand sons did but they are teens . I only can deal with reality ; and reality is that Metcalf hasn't done anything yet to deserve a starting position served on a silver platter .

Now who is putting words into others mouths m

I thought nothing of the sort.

I thought his athletic profile was intriguing, and while admittedly his demonstrated skillset was limited, it seemed tailored to what the Seahawks require (deep routes, back shoulder, comebacks, leaping catches).

I had and still have concerns about his hands.

I expected him to be a diva however, and have been pleasantly surprised by his work ethic and ambition.

But at the end of the day, you have still failed to answer my question.

Because I did not offer a "translation" of your posts. I simply reposted them with a simple question.

What exactly are YOU saying YOU think should happen with DK?

I think that Metcalf SHOULD have to compete and beat out the other rookies and vet WRs to make the 53 man roster. Do YOU understand that ?
 
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