DK having knee surgery

[Sgt. Largent]

1.9% body fat? No one has talked about it except when I mentioned that he had an overdeveloped muscularity. That's a recipe for injury and illness. The only athletes that get down that low are body builders who get right back up after their competitions.

Of course I have no way of knowing what role if any plays into this injury but anyone with that low of body fat is wound too tight.

There is a lot of upside to this kid with his work ethic, willingness to learn etc. but I hope they are getting him a dietitian and sport's physiologist to get him on track to remain healthy.

Adrian Peterson looks like he's chiseled out of granite, and is still playing.

Yes for a position like D-line or O-line, or even LB you probably don't want to have that low of body fat percentage.....but a skill position like WR where it's all fast twitch and speed, it's fine.

Especially for a big WR like Metcalf that doesn't need the extra lbs to block.

Doesn't mean he won't be injury prone, but IMO Metcalf's body fat percentage has little to do with it.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well, say he misses week one and is ready to roll in week 2...…...I'm guessing he will be called Injury prone already by plenty of people out there. Meh, let it play out.

 

[DomeHawk]

1.9% body fat? No one has talked about it except when I mentioned that he had an overdeveloped muscularity. That's a recipe for injury and illness. The only athletes that get down that low are body builders who get right back up after their competitions.

Of course I have no way of knowing what role if any plays into this injury but anyone with that low of body fat is wound too tight.

There is a lot of upside to this kid with his work ethic, willingness to learn etc. but I hope they are getting him a dietitian and sport's physiologist to get him on track to remain healthy.

Adrian Peterson looks like he's chiseled out of granite, and is still playing.

Yes for a position like D-line or O-line, or even LB you probably don't want to have that low of body fat percentage.....but a skill position like WR where it's all fast twitch and speed, it's fine.

Especially for a big WR like Metcalf that doesn't need the extra lbs to block.

Doesn't mean he won't be injury prone, but IMO Metcalf's body fat percentage has little to do with it.

I don't want to belabor the subject but my take on Metcalf is that there was a lot of hype created when he went to the combine and put up big speed numbers. The media proclaimed that he would be the first WR taken in the draft. He couldn't help but buy into that even though he wasn't even the #1 receiver on his own team and hadn't EVER put up any big numbers.

The draft comes and he is sitting there waiting to be top-15 and then he isn't even drafted in the first round. Then, he has to wait through the entire second round before Seattle drafts him as the last player taken in the second round.

He comes to Seattle and gets the oohs and ahhs from Seattle sport's media and fans in training camp and the hype train gets rolling again. He desperately wants to show that he should have been taken first round and demonstrates that by showing up on the field at 5:30 AM as it has been reported.

Now, everyone admires his work ethic and desire to succeed BUT you can over-train too.

Is that what happened? Who knows, but it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

Like I said, I don't know what role, if any, it plays into it BUT it is NEVER - EVER healthy to have a body fat percentage of 1.9. And, NEVER below 3%, you can actually die from heart arrhythmia from it.

https://inbodyusa.com/blogs/inbodyblog/ ... ercentage/

 

[Sgt. Largent]

He comes to Seattle and gets the oohs and ahhs from Seattle sport's media and fans in training camp and the hype train gets rolling again. He desperately wants to show that he should have been taken first round and demonstrates that by showing up on the field at 5:30 AM as it has been reported. /

This is a good thing, and probably factored into why we drafted Metcalf. Pete and John want guys who will come in with a chip on their shoulder.

Metcalf's chip is not going high in the first round like he thought he was going to.

Both you and I are 100% speculating on the body fat thing, so let's leave that one alone. I'll go with he was already injury prone before he even got here, even when he had more body fat early in college he got a medical redshirt exemption for a foot injury his sophomore year and injured neck last year.

Still excited about what DK can bring to our offense, but I was never thinking he was going to be a major contributor this year, as most rookie WR's arent, no matter where they were drafted. Very hard position to learn quickly and ball out year one.

 

[DomeHawk]

He comes to Seattle and gets the oohs and ahhs from Seattle sport's media and fans in training camp and the hype train gets rolling again. He desperately wants to show that he should have been taken first round and demonstrates that by showing up on the field at 5:30 AM as it has been reported. /

This is a good thing, and probably factored into why we drafted Metcalf. Pete and John want guys who will come in with a chip on their shoulder.

Metcalf's chip is not going high in the first round like he thought he was going to.

Both you and I are 100% speculating on the body fat thing, so let's leave that one alone. I'll go with he was already injury prone before he even got here, even when he had more body fat early in college he got a medical redshirt exemption for a foot injury his sophomore year and injured neck last year.

Still excited about what DK can bring to our offense, but I was never thinking he was going to be a major contributor this year, as most rookie WR's arent, no matter where they were drafted. Very hard position to learn quickly and ball out year one.

Granted, but slow down dude, you're going to be here for enough time to develop, you don't have to start at 5:30 every morning.

 

[McGruff]

So now it's a negative for a guy to show up early for work and put in extra effort?

That's so 2019. . .

 

[DomeHawk]

So now it's a negative for a guy to show up early for work and put in extra effort?

That's so 2019. . .

I know you are being facetious but my philosophy has always been the same, if you can't do it in your normal shift (8hrs for most people) you are doing something wrong. Work smarter, not harder.

 

[McGruff]

https://20somethingfinance.com/american ... -vacation/

 

[Sgt. Largent]

He comes to Seattle and gets the oohs and ahhs from Seattle sport's media and fans in training camp and the hype train gets rolling again. He desperately wants to show that he should have been taken first round and demonstrates that by showing up on the field at 5:30 AM as it has been reported. /

This is a good thing, and probably factored into why we drafted Metcalf. Pete and John want guys who will come in with a chip on their shoulder.

Metcalf's chip is not going high in the first round like he thought he was going to.

Both you and I are 100% speculating on the body fat thing, so let's leave that one alone. I'll go with he was already injury prone before he even got here, even when he had more body fat early in college he got a medical redshirt exemption for a foot injury his sophomore year and injured neck last year.

Still excited about what DK can bring to our offense, but I was never thinking he was going to be a major contributor this year, as most rookie WR's arent, no matter where they were drafted. Very hard position to learn quickly and ball out year one.

Granted, but slow down dude, you're going to be here for enough time to develop, you don't have to start at 5:30 every morning.

Other than going to California and working out with Russell before camp started, which was running around on a beach and a week or two of throwing/catching routes at a local college, I don't think DK has done anything more than just about any other player this camp/pre-season.

Not sure why you're equating a normal off season for a young football player in the prime of his physical ability contributing to him needing his knee scoped or cleaned out.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

If increasing his body fat can help keep the injuries away he should call me. I have some ideas that have been proven to be successful.

 

[chris98251]

So now it's a negative for a guy to show up early for work and put in extra effort?

That's so 2019. . .

I know you are being facetious but my philosophy has always been the same, if you can't do it in your normal shift (8hrs for most people) you are doing something wrong. Work smarter, not harder.

So all that film time is wasted energy that Wilson and others put in to get an edge? Nobody said he was in the training room early, he could have been in the film room or doing other things.

 

[DomeHawk]

So now it's a negative for a guy to show up early for work and put in extra effort?

That's so 2019. . .

I know you are being facetious but my philosophy has always been the same, if you can't do it in your normal shift (8hrs for most people) you are doing something wrong. Work smarter, not harder.

So all that film time is wasted energy that Wilson and others put in to get an edge? Nobody said he was in the training room early, he could have been in the film room or doing other things.

Wrong, he was working out very early:

"The week before a large contingent of Seahawks receivers, tight ends and running backs all got together in Southern California for summer workouts organized by Wilson, Metcalf was in L.A. and taking part in 5:45 a.m. workouts with Wilson at UCLA."


There were also reports of him working out at 5AM.

https://www.seahawks.com/news/rookie-re ... ons-for-hi

But I am just presenting a scenario. I qualified that by saying I had no way of knowing.

As for the 1.9% body fat, that is not speculation, it's science, I doubt if there is one sport's physiologist in America that would tell you that is not dangerous.

 

[McGruff]

In fact most sports scientists and nutritionists will tell it's pretty impossible . . . And therefore not true.

 

[McGruff]

And "working out" with Wilson is likely just a lit of pitch and catch and film work.

 

[McGruff]

And prayer.

 

[DomeHawk]

In fact most sports scientists and nutritionists will tell it's pretty impossible . . . And therefore not true.

Really, got a link?

Everyone knows you can get down that low, bodybuilders do it all the time.

 

[McGruff]

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/dk-met ... percentage

 

[McGruff]

https://youtu.be/y0yuP7I3D2s

 

[DomeHawk]

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/dk-metcalf-body-fat-nfl-draft-combine-percentage

Is the sport's writer that wrote that article a sport's physiologist? it also said within the article: "Austrian bodybuilder Andreas Munzer died in 1996. When an autopsy was performed on him, it was determined that his body fat percentage had hovered near zero."

It's definitely possible, I am just going by what they determined at the combine.

 

[DomeHawk]

https://youtu.be/y0yuP7I3D2s

Then, your next article just describes why it is bad, exactly my point.