Colin kaepernick gets contract extension

[Marvin49]

"The Slant" ..... according to Marvin :roll:

Still. Can't. Answer. Simple. Question.

"The Dodge" by Jville.

 

[Marvin49]

Super Bowls count as road games. (See how Pro Football Reference lists Peyton's playoff record, and it's the same number everyone refers to.)

3-2. I guess you were only off by 40%. :lol:

Really?

Learn something new every day. I guess that's fair....but there is a huge difference between a neutral field and an away game. I don't think people usually count the SBs tho when they talk about the stats.

If that were the case by the way then Montana doesn't have 1 road win as most say...he'd have 5. BTW, I don't see the road playoff record listed on Mannings page. I might just be blind, but I don't see it.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Damnit, now I can't find where I saw it at. Somewhere on that site, if I find it again I'll link it; Pro Football Reference has a lot of great information, but it's a pain in the ass trying to find some of their information. Their site could use an improved design.

I completely agree that Super Bowls are unique in that regard. Rest assured, should the Seahawks get back to the Super Bowl and lose, I'll be counting it as a road loss in DangeRuss's overall playoff record, though. (Unless Seattle's literally the city hosting that particular Super Bowl, haha.)

 

[loafoftatupu]

"The Slant" ..... according to Marvin :roll:

Still. Can't. Answer. Simple. Question.

"The Dodge" by Jville.

I haven't been paying attention, but what exactly is your point again? And why does it matter?

 

[Jville]

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

What do you think this is ....... a fantasy forum?

Interesting question, because if you check out any page of conversations and you'll find a lot of "fantasy forum" type posts. What if this? What if that? What do you think will happen? etc..etc. All I see on this forum, especially in the offseason, is reminiscing about the past and putting guesses out there on the future "What if? What if?"

Regarding Marvin49's question: I not only see nothing wrong with this "assumption", I think it is a valid question. And I agree: If the exact same story came out but you swapped Kap's name for Wilson's, the reaction here would be a lot different. And the opposite is likely true if you are on the 49ers forum - praising Kap for his selflessness, and if the names were swapped they'd be bagging on Wilson too.

I'm guessing Marvin49 is just saying when you consider this likelihood, maybe just maybe it's possible Kap didn't go into this making a mistake, rather he actually did this to help the 49ers organization help build the team so he can win

You don't think that's a valid way to support his point?

Your answer is in the thread. The problem is comprehension.

 

[Marvin49]

"The Slant" ..... according to Marvin :roll:

Still. Can't. Answer. Simple. Question.

"The Dodge" by Jville.

I haven't been paying attention, but what exactly is your point again? And why does it matter?

I simply asked him if he would be as critical of the deal had Wilson signed it instead of Kap. IE, would he think WIlson agents didn't represent him well, Wilson just didn't know what he was signing, or that the Seahawks screwed him if Wilson had signed the exact same contract.

It matters (well it doesn't really in the grand scheme, but none of this really does) only to show that there is a "slant" as he said to his opinion on Kaps motivation in signing the contract he did.

My point is that Wilson would be celebrated as a hero if he'd signed the exact same contract.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Montana and Young probably did not have to go on the road very often because they tended to win the NFCW every year and either they or the Giants were the top seed in the NFC in the '80s (and either they or the Cowboys were the top seed in the NFC in the '90s).

Kaepernick's team didn't win his division last year and had three road games already.

I should probably look up the numbers, but that's the first thing I thought when reading about the road records.

 

[Marvin49]

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

What do you think this is ....... a fantasy forum?

Interesting question, because if you check out any page of conversations and you'll find a lot of "fantasy forum" type posts. What if this? What if that? What do you think will happen? etc..etc. All I see on this forum, especially in the offseason, is reminiscing about the past and putting guesses out there on the future "What if? What if?"

Regarding Marvin49's question: I not only see nothing wrong with this "assumption", I think it is a valid question. And I agree: If the exact same story came out but you swapped Kap's name for Wilson's, the reaction here would be a lot different. And the opposite is likely true if you are on the 49ers forum - praising Kap for his selflessness, and if the names were swapped they'd be bagging on Wilson too.

I'm guessing Marvin49 is just saying when you consider this likelihood, maybe just maybe it's possible Kap didn't go into this making a mistake, rather he actually did this to help the 49ers organization help build the team so he can win

You don't think that's a valid way to support his point?

Your answer is in the thread. The problem is comprehension.

Your answer was a dodge. Instead of answering a simple question you responding with "fantasy world", and "The Slant" comments that did nothing but dodge the question.

You did say that the Seahawks won't do a deal like Kap and the 49ers did and that's entirely possible. It would be a good answer too...if it was an answer to the question I asked.

 

[Marvin49]

Montana and Young probably did not have to go on the road very often because they tended to win the NFCW every year and either they or the Giants were the top seed in the NFC in the '80s (and either they or the Cowboys were the top seed in the NFC in the '90s).

Kaepernick's team didn't win his division last year and had three road games already.

I should probably look up the numbers, but that's the first thing I thought when reading about the road records.

True....

But in their opportunities on the road they lost far more often on the road than they won. If you find those stats tho, let me know. I'd like to see them as well.

As for Kap...yes, they won on the road because they had to play on the road....but that doesn't change the fact that they won in Atlanta, won in GB, and won in Carolina. They were in a position where they had to play on the road, but they still won those games.

 

[Jville]

"The Slant" ..... according to Marvin :roll:

Still. Can't. Answer. Simple. Question.

"The Dodge" by Jville.

"Trolling" by Marvin

 

[SoulfishHawk]

F Krapsondick, F Hairball, and F most Niners fans.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Montana's 2-4 on the road not counting the Super Bowl (1-3 with the 49ers, two losses coming to the powerhouse Giants of the '80s).

Young's 0-3 on the road not counting the Super Bowl (0-2, really because he apparently got hurt early in one game against Green Bay).

I guess Marvin has a point about that.

 

[loafoftatupu]

My point is that Wilson would be celebrated as a hero if he'd signed the exact same contract.

OK. So what is the problem with that?

 

[Jville]

Re-posted a second time.

No, its a simple question about hypocrisy.

So .... you chose to side tracked this thread with mud slinging. We do have a forum titled [ POLITICS, WAR & RELIGION FORUM ] specificallly for that activity.

Your certainly way off topic here.

Dude.

I asked you a simple question that you don't want to answer. That isn't mud-slinging.

Let me try it again.

If Wilson signed the exact same contract, would you say Wilson or his agents are idiots or would you say that Wilson is a hero who took less to help the team?

Dude

Will not happen.

Different Culture. Different Program.

Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks will make a stronger mutual commitment than that.

 

[Sports Hernia]

I think KaeperFail is just grand. He has a Super strong arm and such a broad range of skills. He seems really smart too, especially when he talks. He is obviously a cerebral guy. When watching the WSJ interview he said he wanted to bring the "Hip Hop" look to the QB position to prove that tatted up guys are just like everyone else and to make a fashion statement. That is nothing short of Genius. :shock:

The KaeperTract is the most perfect thing that could happen for both the Niners and KaeperTat. Now that the Niner Public Relations Committee has spoken, I totally understand that KaeperBust gets rich, the Niners don't have to pay a penny for him and that the KaeperDeal will not have any impact to the Niner salary situation ever. In fact, according to the Niner PR group, after signing the KaeperTract the Niners even have MORE salary to work with.

Your last sentence sums up NinaTroll math! It was created by a delusional bunch of folks that think that old antique trophies from decades ago have relevance to their current team, and how the leagues out to screw their "storied franchise" at every turn. It's not that Seattle is the better team, it's that they got lucky or the refs and the NFL like the Hawks better. Always an excuse or spin for their recent failures with these folks. ................. Sigh.

 

[Marvin49]

My point is that Wilson would be celebrated as a hero if he'd signed the exact same contract.

OK. So what is the problem with that?

Nothing. Just pointed it out and called him on it.

 

[Sports Hernia]

"The Slant" ..... according to Marvin :roll:

Still. Can't. Answer. Simple. Question.

"The Dodge" by Jville.

"Trolling" by Marvin

Winner...... game, set, and match goes to Jville! :th2thumbs:

 

[bigtrain21]

My point is that Wilson would be celebrated as a hero if he'd signed the exact same contract.

OK. So what is the problem with that?

Nothing. Just pointed it out and called him on it.

This is the honest truth, not making this up. If Russell Wilson signed that contract which has plenty of money but not guarantees. I would wonder why the team wasn't confident in him. He didn't take less money, he took less guaranteed money. The fact that it was reported as 60 million guaranteed when it is only 12.7 or so is telling to me.

 

[Marvin49]

Re-posted a second time.

So .... you chose to side tracked this thread with mud slinging. We do have a forum titled [ POLITICS, WAR & RELIGION FORUM ] specificallly for that activity.

Your certainly way off topic here.

Dude.

I asked you a simple question that you don't want to answer. That isn't mud-slinging.

Let me try it again.

If Wilson signed the exact same contract, would you say Wilson or his agents are idiots or would you say that Wilson is a hero who took less to help the team?

Dude

Will not happen.

Different Culture. Different Program.

Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks will make a stronger mutual commitment than that.

As I said before, it would be a great answer if it was an answer to the question I asked.

 

[Marvin49]

My point is that Wilson would be celebrated as a hero if he'd signed the exact same contract.

OK. So what is the problem with that?

Nothing. Just pointed it out and called him on it.

This is the honest truth, not making this up. If Russell Wilson signed that contract which has plenty of money but not guarantees. I would wonder why the team wasn't confident in him. He didn't take less money, he took less guaranteed money. The fact that it was reported as 60 million guaranteed when it is only 12.7 or so is telling to me.

I don't agree with you, but thank you for answering the question