Colin kaepernick gets contract extension

[Sourdough #49]

Romans depth through much of the year consisted of a steaming pile of $h*t. Beyond Boldin for pass carchers was Baldwin and Osgood with a rookie TE in Macdonald. Patton and Crabs were out most of the season.

 

[Marvin49]

Interesting....

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tip-hat-kap

"Prior to last season, the Baltimore Ravens paid Joe Flacco a signing bonus of $29 million, and Matthew Stafford received $27.5 million up front as part of an extension from the Detroit Lions. There is little question that Kaepernick could have received a lot more fully guaranteed money from the 49ers. And, obviously, a strong argument can be made that his agent should have insisted upon it.

But sources told CSNBayArea.com that Kaepernick wanted it this way. Kaepernick, who recorded one of the top Wonderlic intelligence scores of all NFL starting quarterbacks, knew the exact details and ramifications of his contract.

And while the agent community is panning the performance of his representation in accepting this kind of team-friendly deal, Kaepernick made good on his promises.

A source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s mindset said the 49ers quarterback wanted his deal to be “flexible so that (the 49ers) could sign other guys.” Kaepernick's contract does not exhaust the 49ers' salary this season and figures to be manageable in future years, too."


If true...I'm impressed.

More contract breakdown. This one is fairly in depth.

http://www.spotrac.com/blog/breaking-do ... nick-deal/

Jeez...releasing him as early as NEXT YEAR would save the team 7 plus million. LOL.

No risk at all by 49ers really.

 

[Jville]

The headliner PR numbers are way overblown and overstated. The details reveal peculiar twists. From what I've read so far, I think Kaepernick's agent did a poor job in representing Colin's interests.

The 49ers extend control of Kaepernick's career thru the option of choosing between retention or termination on a year to year schedule. The contract details reinforce the reported 49er practice of maintaining and amplifying stress on everyone within the organization to perform. A theme consistently favored by that organization as a pillar of their culture.

I don't see any meaningful long term commitment to Colin Kaepenick. Colin assumes insurance costs and most of the risk including forfeiture of scheduled money for failure to perform. Within a carrot verses stick world, that contract is a big stick for the hands of Trent Baalke and Jeb Yiork. It says a lot about who they are.

At the very least, more evidence that workplace stress is one of the pillars of 49er culture.

I suspect Kaepenick has misplaced his trust.

Which begs the question, where is the union when it is needed?

 

[Marvin49]

The headliner PR numbers are way overblown and overstated. The details reveal peculiar twists. From what I've read so far, I think Kaepernick's agent did a poor job in representing Colin's interests.

The 49ers extend control of Kaepernick's career thru the option of choosing between retention or termination on a year to year schedule. The contract details reinforce the reported 49er practice of maintaining and amplifying stress on everyone within the organization to perform. A theme consistently favored by that organization as a pillar of their culture.

I don't see any meaningful long term commitment to Colin Kaepenick. Colin assumes insurance costs and most of the risk including forfeiture of scheduled money for failure to perform. Within a carrot verses stick world, that contract is a big stick for the hands of Trent Baalke and Jeb Yiork. It says a lot about who they are.

At the very least, more evidence that workplace stress is one of the pillars of 49er culture.

I suspect Kaepenick has misplaced his trust.

Which begs the question, where is the union when it is needed?

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tip-hat-kap

As quoted above....

"But sources told CSNBayArea.com that Kaepernick wanted it this way. Kaepernick, who recorded one of the top Wonderlic intelligence scores of all NFL starting quarterbacks, knew the exact details and ramifications of his contract.

And while the agent community is panning the performance of his representation in accepting this kind of team-friendly deal, Kaepernick made good on his promises.

A source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s mindset said the 49ers quarterback wanted his deal to be “flexible so that (the 49ers) could sign other guys.” Kaepernick's contract does not exhaust the 49ers' salary this season and figures to be manageable in future years, too."


If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I know that as part of the 49er Defense Force, it's your personal goal to equivocate for your side, but would you please stop with the strawman arguments? Unless you have proof that he was saying in another thread, "I hope Russell Wilson takes a series of one-year contracts because I will love him for it," just stick to trying to cogently argue the actual point.

 

[Jville]

The headliner PR numbers are way overblown and overstated. The details reveal peculiar twists. From what I've read so far, I think Kaepernick's agent did a poor job in representing Colin's interests.

The 49ers extend control of Kaepernick's career thru the option of choosing between retention or termination on a year to year schedule. The contract details reinforce the reported 49er practice of maintaining and amplifying stress on everyone within the organization to perform. A theme consistently favored by that organization as a pillar of their culture.

I don't see any meaningful long term commitment to Colin Kaepenick. Colin assumes insurance costs and most of the risk including forfeiture of scheduled money for failure to perform. Within a carrot verses stick world, that contract is a big stick for the hands of Trent Baalke and Jeb Yiork. It says a lot about who they are.

At the very least, more evidence that workplace stress is one of the pillars of 49er culture.

I suspect Kaepenick has misplaced his trust.

Which begs the question, where is the union when it is needed?

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tip-hat-kap

As quoted above....

"But sources told CSNBayArea.com that Kaepernick wanted it this way. Kaepernick, who recorded one of the top Wonderlic intelligence scores of all NFL starting quarterbacks, knew the exact details and ramifications of his contract.

And while the agent community is panning the performance of his representation in accepting this kind of team-friendly deal, Kaepernick made good on his promises.

A source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s mindset said the 49ers quarterback wanted his deal to be “flexible so that (the 49ers) could sign other guys.” Kaepernick's contract does not exhaust the 49ers' salary this season and figures to be manageable in future years, too."


If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I've seen the Bay area spin for the locals down there. That doesn't alter my remarks or opinions outside of that sphere of influence .

Your Russell Wilson assumption is your fabrication.

 

[Marvin49]

If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I know that as part of the 49er Defense Force, it's your personal goal to equivocate for your side, but would you please stop with the strawman arguments? Unless you have proof that he was saying in another thread, "I hope Russell Wilson takes a series of one-year contracts because I will love him for it," just stick to trying to cogently argue the actual point.

?

Not sure how that's a straw man.

He's basically saying the 49ers screwed Kaepernick. He's saying the Agent did a poor job representing his client.

I'm saying his argument would be completely different had it been Wilson. That's not a straw man. That's an OPINION.

Kaep INTENTIONALLY asked for his contract to be structured to help the team. That should be commended. Instead peeps just look for more reasons to slam the team and it's practices.

 

[Marvin49]

The headliner PR numbers are way overblown and overstated. The details reveal peculiar twists. From what I've read so far, I think Kaepernick's agent did a poor job in representing Colin's interests.

The 49ers extend control of Kaepernick's career thru the option of choosing between retention or termination on a year to year schedule. The contract details reinforce the reported 49er practice of maintaining and amplifying stress on everyone within the organization to perform. A theme consistently favored by that organization as a pillar of their culture.

I don't see any meaningful long term commitment to Colin Kaepenick. Colin assumes insurance costs and most of the risk including forfeiture of scheduled money for failure to perform. Within a carrot verses stick world, that contract is a big stick for the hands of Trent Baalke and Jeb Yiork. It says a lot about who they are.

At the very least, more evidence that workplace stress is one of the pillars of 49er culture.

I suspect Kaepenick has misplaced his trust.

Which begs the question, where is the union when it is needed?

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tip-hat-kap

As quoted above....

"But sources told CSNBayArea.com that Kaepernick wanted it this way. Kaepernick, who recorded one of the top Wonderlic intelligence scores of all NFL starting quarterbacks, knew the exact details and ramifications of his contract.

And while the agent community is panning the performance of his representation in accepting this kind of team-friendly deal, Kaepernick made good on his promises.

A source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s mindset said the 49ers quarterback wanted his deal to be “flexible so that (the 49ers) could sign other guys.” Kaepernick's contract does not exhaust the 49ers' salary this season and figures to be manageable in future years, too."


If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I've seen the Bay area spin for the locals down there. That doesn't alter my remarks or opinions outside of that sphere of influence .

Your Russell Wilson assumption is your fabrication.

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

 

[Smelly McUgly]

If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I know that as part of the 49er Defense Force, it's your personal goal to equivocate for your side, but would you please stop with the strawman arguments? Unless you have proof that he was saying in another thread, "I hope Russell Wilson takes a series of one-year contracts because I will love him for it," just stick to trying to cogently argue the actual point.

?

Not sure how that's a straw man.

He's basically saying the 49ers screwed Kaepernick. He's saying the Agent did a poor job representing his client.

I'm saying his argument would be completely different had it been Wilson. That's not a straw man. That's an OPINION.

Kaep INTENTIONALLY asked for his contract to be structured to help the team. That should be commended. Instead peeps just look for more reasons to slam the team and it's practices.

You're making up a position that he never said and then acting as if he took that position.

Strawman. Also not helpful to this conversation.

 

[Jville]

The headliner PR numbers are way overblown and overstated. The details reveal peculiar twists. From what I've read so far, I think Kaepernick's agent did a poor job in representing Colin's interests.

The 49ers extend control of Kaepernick's career thru the option of choosing between retention or termination on a year to year schedule. The contract details reinforce the reported 49er practice of maintaining and amplifying stress on everyone within the organization to perform. A theme consistently favored by that organization as a pillar of their culture.

I don't see any meaningful long term commitment to Colin Kaepenick. Colin assumes insurance costs and most of the risk including forfeiture of scheduled money for failure to perform. Within a carrot verses stick world, that contract is a big stick for the hands of Trent Baalke and Jeb Yiork. It says a lot about who they are.

At the very least, more evidence that workplace stress is one of the pillars of 49er culture.

I suspect Kaepenick has misplaced his trust.

Which begs the question, where is the union when it is needed?

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tip-hat-kap

As quoted above....

"But sources told CSNBayArea.com that Kaepernick wanted it this way. Kaepernick, who recorded one of the top Wonderlic intelligence scores of all NFL starting quarterbacks, knew the exact details and ramifications of his contract.

And while the agent community is panning the performance of his representation in accepting this kind of team-friendly deal, Kaepernick made good on his promises.

A source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s mindset said the 49ers quarterback wanted his deal to be “flexible so that (the 49ers) could sign other guys.” Kaepernick's contract does not exhaust the 49ers' salary this season and figures to be manageable in future years, too."


If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I've seen the Bay area spin for the locals down there. That doesn't alter my remarks or opinions outside of that sphere of influence .

Your Russell Wilson assumption is your fabrication.

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

 

[Jville]

The headliner PR numbers are way overblown and overstated. The details reveal peculiar twists. From what I've read so far, I think Kaepernick's agent did a poor job in representing Colin's interests.

The 49ers extend control of Kaepernick's career thru the option of choosing between retention or termination on a year to year schedule. The contract details reinforce the reported 49er practice of maintaining and amplifying stress on everyone within the organization to perform. A theme consistently favored by that organization as a pillar of their culture.

I don't see any meaningful long term commitment to Colin Kaepenick. Colin assumes insurance costs and most of the risk including forfeiture of scheduled money for failure to perform. Within a carrot verses stick world, that contract is a big stick for the hands of Trent Baalke and Jeb Yiork. It says a lot about who they are.

At the very least, more evidence that workplace stress is one of the pillars of 49er culture.

I suspect Kaepenick has misplaced his trust.

Which begs the question, where is the union when it is needed?

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tip-hat-kap

As quoted above....

"But sources told CSNBayArea.com that Kaepernick wanted it this way. Kaepernick, who recorded one of the top Wonderlic intelligence scores of all NFL starting quarterbacks, knew the exact details and ramifications of his contract.

And while the agent community is panning the performance of his representation in accepting this kind of team-friendly deal, Kaepernick made good on his promises.

A source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s mindset said the 49ers quarterback wanted his deal to be “flexible so that (the 49ers) could sign other guys.” Kaepernick's contract does not exhaust the 49ers' salary this season and figures to be manageable in future years, too."


If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I've seen the Bay area spin for the locals down there. That doesn't alter my remarks or opinions outside of that sphere of influence .

Your Russell Wilson assumption is your fabrication.

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

What do you think this is ....... a fantasy forum?

 

[Marvin49]

If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I know that as part of the 49er Defense Force, it's your personal goal to equivocate for your side, but would you please stop with the strawman arguments? Unless you have proof that he was saying in another thread, "I hope Russell Wilson takes a series of one-year contracts because I will love him for it," just stick to trying to cogently argue the actual point.

?

Not sure how that's a straw man.

He's basically saying the 49ers screwed Kaepernick. He's saying the Agent did a poor job representing his client.

I'm saying his argument would be completely different had it been Wilson. That's not a straw man. That's an OPINION.

Kaep INTENTIONALLY asked for his contract to be structured to help the team. That should be commended. Instead peeps just look for more reasons to slam the team and it's practices.

You're making up a position that he never said and then acting as if he took that position.

Strawman. Also not helpful to this conversation.

Yes, I'm familiar with what a straw man argument is. I'm subjected to it on a very regular basis on this very website (like say arguing that I talk about the Niners 5 rings all the time...which I don't).

Stating my opinion that he would have a different view if it were Russell Wilson is not a straw man argument. It is my opinion.

At no point am I stating that he's made an argument that he hasn't made and arguing with him based on the argument he never made.

 

[Marvin49]

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tip-hat-kap

As quoted above....

"But sources told CSNBayArea.com that Kaepernick wanted it this way. Kaepernick, who recorded one of the top Wonderlic intelligence scores of all NFL starting quarterbacks, knew the exact details and ramifications of his contract.

And while the agent community is panning the performance of his representation in accepting this kind of team-friendly deal, Kaepernick made good on his promises.

A source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s mindset said the 49ers quarterback wanted his deal to be “flexible so that (the 49ers) could sign other guys.” Kaepernick's contract does not exhaust the 49ers' salary this season and figures to be manageable in future years, too."


If Russell Wilson would have done this he'd be a hero. You wouldn't be slamming the agent.

I've seen the Bay area spin for the locals down there. That doesn't alter my remarks or opinions outside of that sphere of influence .

Your Russell Wilson assumption is your fabrication.

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

What do you think this is ....... a fantasy forum?

No, its a simple question about hypocrisy.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

When Harbaugh's coaching the Dolphins in a year, will Colin demand a trade to his favourite team?

 

[Jville]

I've seen the Bay area spin for the locals down there. That doesn't alter my remarks or opinions outside of that sphere of influence .

Your Russell Wilson assumption is your fabrication.

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

What do you think this is ....... a fantasy forum?

No, its a simple question about hypocrisy.

So .... you chose to side tracked this thread with mud slinging. We do have a forum titled [ POLITICS, WAR & RELIGION FORUM ] specificallly for that activity.

Your certainly way off topic here.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Stating my opinion that he would have a different view if it were Russell Wilson is not a straw man argument. It is my opinion.

At no point am I stating that he's made an argument that he hasn't made and arguing with him based on the argument he never made.

Your clear implication is that he's all for a team-friendly deal for Russell Wilson, and you are attacking him for being hypocritical about this, so...yeah.

This conversation sucks. Blah. The point is that you should stick to what people are actually saying instead of making terrible assumptions or pretending that someone is holding a position that they don't hold.

 

[Marvin49]

Really? If Wilson signed a deal this friendly to the Seahawks, what would you say?

What do you think this is ....... a fantasy forum?

No, its a simple question about hypocrisy.

So .... you chose to side tracked this thread with mud slinging. We do have a forum titled [ POLITICS, WAR & RELIGION FORUM ] specificallly for that activity.

Your certainly way off topic here.

Dude.

I asked you a simple question that you don't want to answer. That isn't mud-slinging.

Let me try it again.

If Wilson signed the exact same contract, would you say Wilson or his agents are idiots or would you say that Wilson is a hero who took less to help the team?

 

[Marvin49]

Stating my opinion that he would have a different view if it were Russell Wilson is not a straw man argument. It is my opinion.

At no point am I stating that he's made an argument that he hasn't made and arguing with him based on the argument he never made.

Your clear implication is that he's all for a team-friendly deal for Russell Wilson, and you are attacking him for being hypocritical about this, so...yeah.

This conversation sucks. Blah. The point is that you should stick to what people are actually saying instead of making terrible assumptions or pretending that someone is holding a position that they don't hold.

Sigh. I'm not pretending anything. In fact I'm asking him directly and he won't answer the question.

Its pertinent to the conversation if he chooses to attack Kaep, his agents, or the 49ers organization.

What I'm asking is not out of bounds. If you think it is, you need a far thicker skin.

 

[JZ#1]

Marvin, any time you spend here trying to convince these guys that Kaepernick and Harbaugh aren't Hitler and Stalin themselves is falling on deaf ears. They don't want to hear it or believe it. They will constantly feed themselves lies or misrepresentations that supports their agenda, never mind any weight given to having an impartial view on things. Can it be that both the 49ers and Seahawks are run by great coaches and great people? That both Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick are great promising quarterbacks and good people? No because, the majority of people here aren't just satisfied with winning, they thirst to find happiness in other peoples misfortune or a construed sense that XYZ isn't as successful as them. They work their lousy jobs and come on here to feed off of "49er trolls" like its their god given obligation. Even so much, that they falsely accuse anyone not sharing their view point as a troll for the rival teams. You don't agree with me? F you, you are a 49ers troll. They get satisfaction out of being so disconnected from reality that I suspect is just a shield to replace something missing in their own life.

 

[Jville]

What do you think this is ....... a fantasy forum?

No, its a simple question about hypocrisy.

So .... you chose to side tracked this thread with mud slinging. We do have a forum titled [ POLITICS, WAR & RELIGION FORUM ] specificallly for that activity.

Your certainly way off topic here.

Dude.

I asked you a simple question that you don't want to answer. That isn't mud-slinging.

Let me try it again.

If Wilson signed the exact same contract, would you say Wilson or his agents are idiots or would you say that Wilson is a hero who took less to help the team?

Dude

Will not happen.

Different Culture. Different Program.

Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks will make a stronger mutual commitment than that.