Colemen is a terrible blocker

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Did anyone else see today why we dont use the I formation much anymore, bringing Mike Rob back might be a good thing. Guy doesn't fumble and is the best blocking fullback in the NFL.
 

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Meh, I thought he got a good lead block on the Lynch TD.

His fumble was helmet on ball I think.
 

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He's not a terrible blocker, his lead block on Lynch's TD was fantastic.

Colemen's not as well rounded of a player just yet like Robinson, especially pass catching and carrying the ball (as we found out with the fumble). Btw, Robinson's still listed as a "free agent" on all the NFL sites. So it's obvious something's going on with his health and ability to contribute to a team. Therefore to say he should still be on the Hawks is a stretch at best, sounds like Pete and John made the right call cutting him.......as much as it pains us to admit it.
 

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I didn't watch Coleman super close, but he's made massive progress since August / September. I think the bigger issue now is getting Lynch to trust him. Coleman had one block where he drove his assignment completely out of the hole, maybe 6 or so yards of movement. It did take him a moment to get going, and Lynch didn't trust him so he didn't follow the assignment. It would have been a big gain if he had. Instead, it went for a loss.

Despite the awful fumble from Coleman, I think Seattle needs to use him more as a receiver. The dropoff in usage as a FB receiver is hurting our offense almost as much as the dropoff in lead blocking has the last couple weeks.
 

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Bring back MikeRob and the RRR. It just doesn't feel the same without him there.
 

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I feel like Bradford would have made a good LBer (lead blocker)
 

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Rumor alert: From what I've heard a couple weeks ago through a friend with a connection, Mike Rob was still dealing with a medical issue preventing teams from signing him ( I've heard some details to his illness but as a rumor post, I'd rather not add to this speculation)

Again, it's all a rumor, but considering not a single team has signed him out from under the Hawks, it adds up. I'm giving the front office a pass on this move.

I'm still excited for Colemen, though. Despite the fumble, he's a better runner with the ball (Mike Robs own words) and I'd argue a better receiver, too, AND he's getting better game to game in his blocking.
 

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There's always a couple plays per game where he doesn't finish blocks. He just kind of gets in the guy's way.
 

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-The Glove-":mlk52uli said:
There's always a couple plays per game where he doesn't finish blocks. He just kind of gets in the guy's way.
I think Coleman stinks.
 

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I seem to recall a good number of posters on this board questioning Robinson's blocking abilities during his first year with us. How soon we forget.
 

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kearly":1x402kn6 said:
I didn't watch Coleman super close, but he's made massive progress since August / September. I think the bigger issue now is getting Lynch to trust him. Coleman had one block where he drove his assignment completely out of the hole, maybe 6 or so yards of movement. It did take him a moment to get going, and Lynch didn't trust him so he didn't follow the assignment. It would have been a big gain if he had. Instead, it went for a loss.

Despite the awful fumble from Coleman, I think Seattle needs to use him more as a receiver. The dropoff in usage as a FB receiver is hurting our offense almost as much as the dropoff in lead blocking has the last couple weeks.
Thanks for the rational contribution, Kip.

That's actually a problem that should show up in film study and get better with time playing together. That's what coaches are for, no? Building rapport with one's teammates might be the hardest thing to do, and with a rookie in the mix, it could make it harder still.
 

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FWIW, I agree with Scott that Coleman stinks. He used to stink to high heaven. Now he's improving towards competence. He's not there yet, but since it appears we are stuck with him, it's worth celebrating any improvement we can get. All that said, Lynch needs to just trust Coleman more. I get why he doesn't, but Coleman's lead blocking has improved to the point where if a block looks iffy, Lynch can make it work now.
 

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I can understand Lynch's hesitance to trust going in Coleman's direction. He's seen the dude completely whiff on spear blocks. Those are the kind of situations that get a RB blown up if he runs without hesitation. Once Coleman puts more consistency on TAPE, I think Lynch will become more trusting on game day. That might take some time.
 

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-The Glove-":2kshl89r said:
There's always a couple plays per game where he doesn't finish blocks. He just kind of gets in the guy's way.

And, there are usually a couple of posts in any thread that "get in the guy's way". Thanks to you for fulfilling the need.

For whatever/whenever/however, the Hawks have moved on from MRob. Deal with it!
 

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Let me explain why I think Coleman stinks

look at offensive production when he is on the field. It's awful.
On Lynch's fumble, Coleman is the lead, and does not find a player to block(eventually choosing the wrong guy left, when the player who makes the fumble causing hit should have been his read), and in fact stalls Lynch with his indecision.
On the Wilson goal line rollout right where Russell gets stopped at the one, it is Coleman to creates the cluster Wilson cannot get around on the corner.

On a outside zone play from the I, Coleman dawdles his way to the corner, leaving nowhere for Lynch to run. Seems to me he misses at lest two reads. My opinion? he isn't thinking in terms of creating a gap, he is seeing the play like he has the ball himself.
The great sideline catch by Rice? The play fake was play action to Lynch, led by Coleman. The D is all over it. Great play call by Bevell, playing to the clear defensive tendency to one gap right at Coleman and blow up any play he leads.

On Coleman's fumble, low man wins. Coleman didn't get low. Similar play last year, Robinson gets low and break's Tim Jennings collar bone. No fumble.

With a couple of exceptions, Coleman blocks to a player, not through a player. In most cases he is indecisive, when he should have a pretty good idea where he is going before the snap.

I like his talent level, but right now he is a liability on the field.
 

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Yeah, I really miss Mike Rob. But clearly, whatever he had or still has is preventing him from playing because I'm sure someone would have signed him already if he was able to go.
 

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I admit to pining for Rob. Doesn't matter if he is still sick.
 

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IMO, they knew Coleman would take sometime to develop. The Seahawks have a great way of looking at the entirety of a season, while focusing week to week. I know that sounds nonsensical, but its a pe post.

I think once Harvin returns, it could very well be Coleman that gets cut. I see Harvin being the 2nd back in the minority of the actual two back plays the Seahawks run. Cable was in the verge of something very unique in Oakland, with Reese at FB. Reese isn't a fullback, he's not a WR, he's not a TE, he's not a RB, he's a tool/weapon. I think Cable wants a tool/offensive weapon at FB, more than an actual FB.

Yes, I said tool so you guys can have fun.

XOXO

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