Coaching or QB making Bengals better than Seahawks?

[JayhawkMike]

Is it the playoff UNclutch RW? Or the pitiful coaching by PC?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Favorite BBQ sauce.............go

 

[Jville]

Is it the playoff UNclutch RW? Or the pitiful coaching by PC?

Why are you asking? Do you actually believe there is someone in the Universe that doesn't know where you stand on your own question?

 

[sdog1981]

I think it had more to do with the matchups they faced. They played the Raiders who were just happy to be there, a declawed Titans team, and the Cheifs who they beat on January 2nd.

Zac Taylor is like a new Mike Martz. Throw the ball no matter how many times your QB gets hit. Burrow was sacked 51 times in the regular season which lead the league. In the playoffs, he was sacked 9 times in the Tennessee game alone.

The current record for most sacks allowed in the Super Bowl is 7 and that very well could be broken on February 13th.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The Bengals are in the SB because they're an extremely talented young team with a rising QB on his rookie contract which allowed them to go spend a bunch of money in free agency to round out their roster.

They also got lucky with all three teams in their division having down years.

Remember those days Hawk fans, when we had a rising young QB on his rookie contract and there were no good teams in our division, or at worst one good team?

It ALL matters to get to a SB.

 

[keasley45]

The Bengals are in the SB because they're an extremely talented young team with a rising QB on his rookie contract which allowed them to go spend a bunch of money in free agency to round out their roster.

They also got lucky with all three teams in their division having down years.

Remember those days Hawk fans, when we had a rising young QB on his rookie contract and there were no good teams in our division, or at worst one good team?

It ALL matters to get to a SB.

Exactly this.

All that being said, to the OPs question, I'd look at it as whether what's bringing their team success is the talent of the young QB or the coaching. The comparison to Seattle would have been in Pete's early years. Hard to compare the two given where they are in their respective periods of development. I think the answer is that it's a combination of great coaching / harnessing the talent of a young team and scheming a way to maximize the ability of a gifted young QB while minimizing his flaws.

They've got a good thing going over there. Lightning in a Bottle. Very much like the 2012, 2013 hawks.

Wonder what Dunlap is feeling right now. Or for that matter, G Atkins...

Or... Tre Flowers. Sheesh. Talk about fortunes flipping.

 

[Jville]

I nominate Tre Flowers for this years award ........................

 

[John63]

How them Kraken!

 

[Fade]

The Bengals are in the SB because they're an extremely talented young team with a rising QB on his rookie contract which allowed them to go spend a bunch of money in free agency to round out their roster.

They also got lucky with all three teams in their division having down years.

Remember those days Hawk fans, when we had a rising young QB on his rookie contract and there were no good teams in our division, or at worst one good team?

It ALL matters to get to a SB.

Exactly this.

All that being said, to the OPs question, I'd look at it as whether what's bringing their team success is the talent of the young QB or the coaching. The comparison to Seattle would have been in Pete's early years. Hard to compare the two given where they are in their respective periods of development. I think the answer is that it's a combination of great coaching / harnessing the talent of a young team and scheming a way to maximize the ability of a gifted young QB while minimizing his flaws.

They've got a good thing going over there. Lightning in a Bottle. Very much like the 2012, 2013 hawks.

Wonder what Dunlap is feeling right now. Or for that matter, G Atkins...

Or... Tre Flowers. Sheesh. Talk about fortunes flipping.

Tre Flowers is the Seahawks problems personified.

 

[nutluck]

Tre Flowers is the Seahawks problems personified.

I kinda agree which speaks to coaching and playing him in a way he was not suited for. Which they have done with other players on this team. Just look at Pona he did much better last year before they moved him.

 

[mrblitz]

That Chase dude is totally dynamic.

 

[toffee]

To round out the Flowers fairy tale, he will make two interceptions and run one back for TD in the super bowl to seal the game. After Tre Flowers received his super bowl MVP, he will personally post on dot net to thank all our armchair experts, without your urging, he wouldn't have requested the release.

 

[xray]

Both . Every team has the ebb and tide . It's the Moon's fault .

 

[sdog1981]

You guys are really bending over backward fawning over a 10-7 team with an average offense and an average defense.

Seahawks fans should be pissed looking at the Rams.

The Rams traded away draft picks and ended up with Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, and Von Miller. The Seahawks ended up with Face-Pick Adams.

The 2020 Rams had no first-round picks and ended up with Cam Akers and Van Jefferson. They then won a playoff game on the road throwing for less than 190 yards.

The Bengals are a fluke and the Rams are showing how a team can stay competitive with a maxed-out cap.

 

[scutterhawk]

Favorite BBQ sauce.............go

I try to keep it simple & being the CHEAP SOB that I like cheapo Kraft brown sugar'n hickory smoke...Please don't hate me...I don't eat Kraft Mayonnaise, Kraft Mac'n'cheese, or any of Robert Kraft's other garbage stuff, so there is that. :greetingsearthling:

 

[oldhawkfan]

Favorite BBQ sauce.............go

Honey bbq

 

[Fade]

You guys are really bending over backward fawning over a 10-7 team with an average offense and an average defense.

Seahawks fans should be pissed looking at the Rams.

The Rams traded away draft picks and ended up with Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, and Von Miller. The Seahawks ended up with Face-Pick Adams.

The 2020 Rams had no first-round picks and ended up with Cam Akers and Van Jefferson. They then won a playoff game on the road throwing for less than 190 yards.

The Bengals are a fluke and the Rams are showing how a team can stay competitive with a maxed-out cap.

They also have over $40M in cap this season allocated at the QB spot. (Goff's dead money + Stafford's salary.)

We're told over and over it's because of WiLsOn's SaLaRy. Yet the Rams, and 49ers allocated more capspace at QB in 2021, have dumped more resources into QB via picks, and they still have the more talented rosters, top to bottom. Better coaching too. If Wilson were on the Rams or the 49ers they'd be a dynasty.

 

[John63]

They also have over $40M in cap this season allocated at the QB spot. (Goff's dead money + Stafford's salary.)

We're told over and over it's because of WiLsOn's SaLaRy. Yet the Rams, and 49ers allocated more capspace at QB in 2021, have dumped more resources into QB via picks, and they still have the more talented rosters, top to bottom. Better coaching too. If Wilson were on the Rams or the 49ers they'd be a dynasty.

THIS^^^^

 

[Jville]

Did Richard Sherman have anything to say about how fans of the Seahawks lust over the success of others?

 

[nutluck]

They also have over $40M in cap this season allocated at the QB spot. (Goff's dead money + Stafford's salary.)

We're told over and over it's because of WiLsOn's SaLaRy. Yet the Rams, and 49ers allocated more capspace at QB in 2021, have dumped more resources into QB via picks, and they still have the more talented rosters, top to bottom. Better coaching too. If Wilson were on the Rams or the 49ers they'd be a dynasty.

Yeah if you combine Goff's dead money and Staffords contract the Rams have 44.7 mil tied up in QB or just over 24% of their cap this year. Draft picks is crazy, 5 1st(including the 1st they used to draft Goff), 1 2nd and 1 3rd. To trade up and get Goff when they did and then later to trade him and picks for Stafford.