Blame Wilson all you want but......

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Optimus25":2l5629gx said:
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From what I saw 2 of the picks were on Russ and maybe even just 1. One off Baldwin, 1 Collins, 1 Kearse non PI call and 1 Jimmy falls down.


At that point in the game, throwing that ball to no man's land to kearse was stupid. So that's #2 for sure. The only hope for that throw was a PI, which is not the ball you throw down multiple scores in or nearly in the red zone.

I'd venture to say 3 of his INT's were poor.

The ball to Jimmy Graham was late and contested regardless if he falls or not.
The deep ball he threw across his body, which everyone knows is a no-no in the NFL.
The third to Kearse was heavily contested with 2 on 1 defending.

No excuses to throw any of those really, especially since he's considered to be a good decision QB.

The run game was working and their needs to be more emphasis on just developing a run game versus constantly throwing the ball.

GB knew he had to throw it when they got down early so they pinned their ears back and played well, gotta give them credit.
 

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BadgerVid":21fq787a said:
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Russ was horrible today, period. Accept it and move on.
Pretty much the whole team was terrible today...Rawls was the only semi bright spot. The optimist says it's good they all got their crappy game out of the way in one day.

What about Tampa? Arizona? LA?

Thats alot of crap performances in one season.
 

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Even if the game is all on wilson, you could argue bad o-line play is taking it's toll on him. Maybe investing so much in a qb and so so little in an o-line was a bad idea.
 

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RW's play cannot be defended. He had time, the run game was there initially, he just missed to many throws in the first half and the D didn't hold up. This game was setup to be a shootout and RW crapped the bed. Maybe he just cant play in cold weather? I noticed he kept his hands in pockets as long as he could before the snap of the ball. He's doing that because he wants to get a good feel of a cold, stiff pigskin football. I was wondering why he wasn't wearing a glove. Look back to the disastrous performance against the Vikings in the play offs. RW cant play in the cold. And that sucks because it's going to be Green Bay cold this Thursday at home.

He played for Wisconsin and as far as the MN playoff game, your kidding right? -30 with wind chill. I'm surprised anyone even survived the game let alone played well.

Today he again had to create room and time for him to throw. Yes he did he have major problems but give him time, a pocket and receivers that get separation, and you'll see different results.

You can say that for every QB ever played the game bro.

Wilson is great- or at least built his name- by being the best at extending plays outside of the pocket and delivering gut-wrenching darts to Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin. You can't sit here now and say he requires a great pocket and great receivers to be successful.
 

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Most of us would like an average pocket. Dodging pressure all game every game is not sustainable
 
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cymatica":2f1vkypm said:
Most of us would like an average pocket. Dodging pressure all game every game is not sustainable

Exactly what I was talking about. Everyone is saying how bad Russ played but because our O line is soooo bad they just overlook it as a formality. As someone else mentioned he was pressured 23 times today, second most in his career. Not sure if there is any qb who would have had a good game under that kind of duress.frankly most would probably have performed worse.
 

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Where do you think the breakdown was on the play where Doug was wide open, Russ threw late and it was picked? He was rolling left out of the pocket, set up and threw after he cleared the line surge. Did he miss a launching point where he safely could have gotten the ball out for the easy 6?
 

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seabowl":5ijpoo4u said:
From what I saw 2 of the picks were on Russ and maybe even just 1. One off Baldwin, 1 Collins, 1 Kearse non PI call and 1 Jimmy falls down.
Agreed seabowl, Two of those intercepted passes hit the Receiver right in the hands...And, if you're able to re-watch the play where JG falls, it was part slipping, and a flagrant push on the back that the Defender got away with, before stepping up to make the interception. ONE of them WAS on RW, no excuses, no argument.
 

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His worst game as a pro. He'll learn from it and move on and not make excuses, unlike what the OP is doing.

We're lucky as hell to have him but this loss is mostly on him. Just as he said it was. He'll bounce back.


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This o-line is so bad that Russell is getting gun shy back
There. He was running out of the pocket today when he
Didn't have to. Russell and the whole team had a crap
Game.
 

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austinslater25":2i2b2per said:
Actually Russ was pressured 23 times. Second most in his career. He was Terrible but it's silly to say it was all him. Fant was pathetic and as a hole they couldn't pass block against a bad Def line. Everyone was bad today.

Damn. 23?

Still... not all on him but he was as inaccurate as I've seen him today and 5 turnovers just can't happen.

Fant has been put in an impossible and unfair situation so my leash with him is quite long. All the more reason for RW to get the ball out ASAP. I didn't see that today. Trying to extend plays in bad conditions cost him and the team dearly today.
 

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Siouxhawk":3b74me4b said:
Where do you think the breakdown was on the play where Doug was wide open, Russ threw late and it was picked? He was rolling left out of the pocket, set up and threw after he cleared the line surge. Did he miss a launching point where he safely could have gotten the ball out for the easy 6?
Are you referring to the one where Baldwin deflected the ball up & back to the Defender?, Doug usually catches those passes, just not that time.
If those balls are hitting your Receivers in the hands like that, they damned sure should be coming down with the catch.
On the interception where the Defender stepped in front of Baldwin for the Interception?, Doug usually helps his Quarterback by coming back for the ball, and IF he can't make the catch, he's there to see to it that the Defender doesn't get it either.....Something was amiss, this wasn't Doug's best game, by any measure.
 
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Where do you think the breakdown was on the play where Doug was wide open, Russ threw late and it was picked? He was rolling left out of the pocket, set up and threw after he cleared the line surge. Did he miss a launching point where he safely could have gotten the ball out for the easy 6?

Again as you state he was rolling to his left. He was escaping pressure and had to make a tough throw. The defender made a nice play but Doug could have helped.

The point is he had to escape pressure all day just to make throws.
 

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I was at this game. If you throw five picks, you've gotta own it. Having said that, the rest of the offense didn't do him any favors. Russ missed three TD passes, the last one being his 4th pick. He needed some more height on that ball, which was exactly how he missed the first two TDs, with overthrows. I'm sure he was frustrated by this as well.

Just a bad game for everyone. He doesn't get a clean conscience, but it's not all on him either. Sorry.
 

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From what I saw 2 of the picks were on Russ and maybe even just 1. One off Baldwin, 1 Collins, 1 Kearse non PI call and 1 Jimmy falls down.
All 5 are on him period..You throw into coverage-You better be on the money or those types of interceptions happen
He was off the whole game just about.He had plenty of time and waited too long to decide wtf he was going to do
He can't seem to operate in the pocket and I think that is where being short hurts so he has to bail and they are better at countering that bail to the right.This game was on him for the most part and there are no excuses.They are paying him 20 million so if he wants a better line he better redo his contract and buy one of those guys but I don't think it matters when he is off like yeterday at all..
 

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The 2 dropped passes that went thru guys' hands are on him? Ok......
He played like crap, but the WR's were equally crap yesterday.
What about the flat out BLATANT PI that wasn't called on one of them? That was obvious, and would have put them 1st and goal at the 1. They lost as a team. The pass rush was just as bad.
 

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Ironically the only player that didn't stink it up yesterday was the new guy, Reece.

Other than that, if this was Oprah, she'd be yelling "EVERYONE GET'S A F GRADE..........YOU GET AN F, YOU GET AN F..........AND YOU GET AN F!!

JNhU5Tt
 

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I thought the running backs balled out, especially rawls.

I thought Ifed played well.

But everyone else sucked. Can't point a finger at any one player. Total team collapse.
 

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Is OP serious? Wilson was terrible yesterday. One bad decision after another. The O-Line was great yesterday for the most part. Wilson constantly gave GB short fields to score on our defense.
 

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The weather was a much bigger factor than it should have been.

Initially I was directing most of the blame towards Wilson. He started out over throwing everything but someone else made a good point about our receivers being slower than normal and under the conditions it makes sense.

Later Wilson seemed to be throwing everything a little shorter and those became int's, partly behind or short of the receivers and with Wilson's normal arc that lands the ball in softly for easy catches, unfortunately made them easy int's also.

Even later I think he adjusted again, removing the arc and powering the ball into place. Unfortunately the weather affected our receivers as well and those balls were suddenly zipping through their hands and bouncing up in the air for more easy int's.

On top of everything that went wrong for us the Packers players were playing lights out. Being use to the weather gave them an advantage but on top of that lady luck had every mistake we made dropping right into their laps.

I normally don't bash Bevell and Pete but the game plan didn't seem to consider the weather at all and it's not the first time. Chris Richard deserves some blame here also.

It probably won't be a huge factor the rest of this year because we likely won't see conditions like that again but it does bother me that we never seem to be prepared for these conditions when they do happen. Carolina last year was another example of that.

My big concern now is can we get our timing back on track? As long as we can do that this game was just a bad loss.

At least we didn't lose a bunch of players again.
 
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