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This guy was good and let the team down. If you have something hanging over your head, you don't go do it again and expect a different result and this guy did it to his team. I don't get all the rationalization for this guy. He was on thin ice already. Done with it. Time to concentrate on the Rams with the players that are playing.
 

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twelthmanfan":1zioetji said:
This guy was good and let the team down. If you have something hanging over your head, you don't go do it again and expect a different result and this guy did it to his team. I don't get all the rationalization for this guy. He was on thin ice already. Done with it. Time to concentrate on the Rams with the players that are playing.

I am with that other guy you seem to reek like a slow rolling troll.
 

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How does Browner know the letter wasn't certified if he didn't get it? He probably has the unopened
Letter sitting right in front of him right now lol
 

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HawaiiD":mk5ptrfq said:
How does Browner know the letter wasn't certified if he didn't get it? He probably has the unopened
Letter sitting right in front of him right now lol


Because you have to sign for it. Thus there would be a record of delivery.
 

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HawaiiD":38r6s1t9 said:
How does Browner know the letter wasn't certified if he didn't get it? He probably has the unopened
Letter sitting right in front of him right now lol

I think his point was ........ what letter?
 

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This is how processes get fixed. He may be guilty, he may have just missed a test, nobody knows for sure. What is certain is the NFL is trying to give him a suspension that would cost him a massive hit to his career. If I was in the same position I cannot say that I wouldn't do everything I could to make sure I could keep working even if I had done something. I'm going to exhaust all my resources.

Reading through the NFL policy, the articles written previously about it, I think there is a lot of room to resolve issues including the points that Browner makes.

Requiring people to continue testing processes when the league drops them without compensation or health coverage is something that needs to be fixed.
 

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HawaiiD":2tjvr1kx said:
How does Browner know the letter wasn't certified if he didn't get it? He probably has the unopened
Letter sitting right in front of him right now lol

You are absolutely right. Browner would have no way of knowing it wasn't certified. The NFLPA lawyers and his lawyers couldn't possibly be smart enough to ask if it was sent certified.
 

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BullHawk33":i0iaru9h said:
This is how processes get fixed. He may be guilty, he may have just missed a test, nobody knows for sure. What is certain is the NFL is trying to give him a suspension that would cost him a massive hit to his career. If I was in the same position I cannot say that I wouldn't do everything I could to make sure I could keep working even if I had done something. I'm going to exhaust all my resources.

Reading through the NFL policy, the articles written previously about it, I think there is a lot of room to resolve issues including the points that Browner makes.

Requiring people to continue testing processes when the league drops them without compensation or health coverage is something that needs to be fixed.

The real problem is that the entire thing was made public (by an NFL employee no less) before the process had been resolved against the express policy set by the CBA. Had the process remained confidential like it was supposed to, then the NFL could have very quietly cut a deal that would make everyone happy. Now they have to "make an example" of Browner (at least in their own eyes).
 

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Spiderdan":2cphxpjy said:
HawaiiD":2cphxpjy said:
How does Browner know the letter wasn't certified if he didn't get it? He probably has the unopened
Letter sitting right in front of him right now lol

You are absolutely right. Browner would have no way of knowing it wasn't certified. The NFLPA lawyers and his lawyers couldn't possibly be smart enough to ask if it was sent certified.

;)
 

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Basis4day":1rk3e1yj said:
twelthmanfan":1rk3e1yj said:
Browner is an idiot. He smoked weed and got caught and now he is busted. Enough already. You are a selfish person who did what he did above the team and for that. you are an idiot. Now back off.

I would love to witness you say that to his face.
Cowards won't do that.
It's a lot easier to flip shit at someone over the internet.
It's not unlawful to do some dumb things, and I doubt that he's denying that he didn't screw up, BUT, Browner is exactly right about them being stupid about their end of the dealings on the matter.
You can get away with saying "Because I Said So" when you're talking to your children, but in a court of law?, it doesn't wash.
The League has NO PROOF that they even sent a SINGLE letter to Browner without certification in hand to back their assertion.
 

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HawaiiD":2zqitia8 said:
How does Browner know the letter wasn't certified if he didn't get it? He probably has the unopened
Letter sitting right in front of him right now lol
Well then he is sunk if that's the case, because they'd have his signature on the receipt...OH WAIT!, they don't have proof that he signed for it :roll:
 

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Polaris":3ho70aci said:
BullHawk33":3ho70aci said:
This is how processes get fixed. He may be guilty, he may have just missed a test, nobody knows for sure. What is certain is the NFL is trying to give him a suspension that would cost him a massive hit to his career. If I was in the same position I cannot say that I wouldn't do everything I could to make sure I could keep working even if I had done something. I'm going to exhaust all my resources.

Reading through the NFL policy, the articles written previously about it, I think there is a lot of room to resolve issues including the points that Browner makes.

Requiring people to continue testing processes when the league drops them without compensation or health coverage is something that needs to be fixed.

The real problem is that the entire thing was made public (by an NFL employee no less) before the process had been resolved against the express policy set by the CBA. Had the process remained confidential like it was supposed to, then the NFL could have very quietly cut a deal that would make everyone happy. Now they have to "make an example" of Browner (at least in their own eyes).

Browner also has to make an example of the NFL. The reporting coming from their media outlet should be better controlled to prevent them from violating the policies of the business. Additionally, they were wrong about many of those reports as well. There are some things that NFL official media just shouldn't comment or speculate about.
 

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twelthmanfan":19jjplqa said:
Browner is an idiot. He smoked weed and got caught and now he is busted. Enough already. You are a selfish person who did what he did above the team and for that. you are an idiot. Now back off.
Well somebody may be something here but I'll leave that line of thinking alone....if you know what I mean.....
 

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Blitzer88":1un8xltf said:
That is pretty interesting.
Hence the reason this is going to court because with each day that passes with the information coming out (and/or the legitimate legal arguments and basis that will be argued and that Browner has) the NFL's actions and position just look worse and worse.
 

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Basis4day":13weea06 said:
twelthmanfan":13weea06 said:
Browner is an idiot. He smoked weed and got caught and now he is busted. Enough already. You are a selfish person who did what he did above the team and for that. you are an idiot. Now back off.

I would love to witness you say that to his face.

Haha no doubt.
 

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Some of you make it sound like this is a cheap way to get out of trouble, the problem is, it isnt. to me, its a pretty petty "crime". although its a repeat offense and against league policy, sure, hes most likely deserving of punishment, but the whole point of lawyers and the judicial system is to find a technicality, a loophole if you will, and get out of trouble. or, in some cases, prove your innocence...or at the least, instill doubt in the juror or judges mind.

if i was in his shoes, i too would be looking at every way to get out of what hes facing. and if theres a means to that end, he has EVERY right to pursue that and in the spirit of the judicial system he should, should he not? should he sit back and take his lumps knowing he could have faced it?

apples to oranges here but if someone is caught for a DUI and the arresting officer makes a mistake opening up a loophole for you to get the charge dropped or lessened, would you not pursue it? Youd just sit back and say, naw, im guilty, throw the book at me...knowing you have a way out? i mean, when faced with a pretty serious outcome, you are going to do everything in your power to lessen the penalty/fine/sentence.

Good Luck BB.
 

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The thing that seems to be being left unanswered is how did the league handle Browners previous test and participation in the program the NFL uses for previous offenders?

My point is once you are bust for substance abuse you go into a program that will have you randomly drug tested about 30 or more times a year. Was Browner being tested as if he were a repeat offender? Did the NFL inform him he was still in the program or did they treat him like a normal player.

If the NFL made it obvious that Browner would be treated as not just a first level but second level offender (meaning someone who had already been popped twice) and Browner knew this then there is no excuse for his behavior and I side with those that are disappointed and upset with him. On the other hand if he wasn't re-established into the NFL's substance abuse program when he re-entered the league then how can they suddenly treat him like he should have known?

All that being said, the NFL's official website broke the story and not only put it on the front page but also reported it as a PED violation. Not only did they break privacy policy they slandered him and the Seahawks. As far as I am concerned on the NFL's behalf I hope they get exposed for the fraud they are and pay through the nose as well as look like the complete incompetent idiots they are.
 
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