ALCS Mariners (90-72) vs Blue Jays (94-68) Oct 12-20, 2025

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That's the next step. Randy and Garver are probably gone. They'll sign Geno and Polanco they did enough in the post season to keep around. One year left is on JP's contract. Assuming they resign Naylor next seasons team should look pretty similar.
Doesn't Arozarena have another year left on his contract? I really don't want him back. Lazy in the OF & not real good at the plate. I don't care if he was a 20/20 guy, the eye test says he's average at best. Just not a smart player, mentally lazy & he's getting older. They have to eliminate all these whiffs, it's beyond ridiculous at this point.
 

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Why? It's the Mariners. The regular season and first round playoff champs. Has always been this way, and will always be this way unless they get a serious 1-9 lineup that can play in the reg AND post season. Go look at the 95 and 2001 lineups and you will see the exact same thing.

They invest in 3-4 dudes, and call it a day.
Let people feel what they want to feel. You feel what you want to feel. Let people be.
 

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Doesn't Arozarena have another year left on his contract? I really don't want him back. Lazy in the OF & not real good at the plate. I don't care if he was a 20/20 guy, the eye test says he's average at best. Just not a smart player, mentally lazy & he's getting older. They have to eliminate all these whiffs, it's beyond ridiculous at this point.
yeah youre right he'll be on arb next year. The team is pretty old...my guess is they ride out everyones careers and try to get to a WS.
Cole Young, Williamson, and Rivas aren't going to cut it. They'll probably just stick with what they have. We will see Harry Ford next year at least (assuming he's cool with not catching most days). Maybe we see Montez DH. But theres no infield slugging in the farm right now. Probably won't see Emerson until 2027.
 

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Why? It's the Mariners. The regular season and first round playoff champs. Has always been this way, and will always be this way unless they get a serious 1-9 lineup that can play in the reg AND post season. Go look at the 95 and 2001 lineups and you will see the exact same thing.

They invest in 3-4 dudes, and call it a day.
Dude just ******* stop. Maybe other people are bigger fans of teams than you are. For me baseball is my favorite sport and the Mariners are my team. Not in the mood for stupid bullshit. If you want to shit on ownership thats fine. But not in response to me.
 
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For me it just feels like this was our shot…at least in my lifetime unfortunately. Just hard to see us replicating it next season if at all in the near future. This isn’t the NFL
 

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Should've kept Woo in. At most he could let a tie game, and the M's would still be in it.
I would have rode Kirby 5 or 6 innings or more then Woo until the 9th for Munoz.

Kirby was pulled at 60 something pitches with a 3-1 lead. Dan managed this game like it wasn't a game 7. I think Servais would have managed the pitching better tonight. I mean really what's the reason to pull Kirby when he was dealing? I hate to put most blame on a first year manager but....I am.
 

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Dude just ******* stop. Maybe other people are bigger fans of teams than you are. For me baseball is my favorite sport and the Mariners are my team. Not in the mood for stupid bullshit. If you want to shit on ownership thats fine. But not in response to me. So Kindly stfu.
I went to my first Mariners game in the Kingdome in 1985 dude, get over yourself. My comments are valid. Cussing at other Mariner fans because you don't really understand the history here with the ownership team -- makes me suspect that you know the real deal of this all.

Lou, in 2001, asked for more firepower to beat the Yanks and they told him no. He won 116 games in the regular season and we got peaced out in the ALCS by -- YUP -- the Yankees.

If you do not want people to comment on a post you make on a forum, don't post. Don't get on my back over the fact that you did, and got a response to it. Ain't my problem.
 
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For me it just feels like this was our shot…at least in my lifetime unfortunately. Just hard to see us replicating it next season if at all in the near future. This isn’t the NFL
If the ownership opens the coffers this off season, Seattle will not only be back here next year, but can completely dominate the American League and be extremely competitive in the WS.

All about what they do.
 

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I went to my first Mariners game in the Kingdome in 1985 dude, get over yourself. My comments are valid. Cussing at other Mariner fans because you don't really understand the history here with the ownership team -- makes me suspect that you know the real deal of this all.

Lou, in 2001, asked for more firepower to beat the Yanks and they told him no. He won 116 games in the regular season and we got peaced out in the ALCS by -- YUP -- the Yankees.

If you do not want people to comment on a post you make on a forum, don't post. Don't get on my back over the fact that you did, and got a response to it. Ain't my problem cupcake.
My comments are valid too. You are the one who decided to give me shit about feeling bad that the team lost. Maybe take your own advice in your last paragraph.
 

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My comments are valid too. You are the one who decided to give me shit about feeling bad that the team lost. Maybe take your own advice in your last paragraph.
Happy to exchange comments at any time. What advice do you want me to take? Not to post if I don't want to discuss things? I do want to, I post because of that, and that is how this all works.

Look if you are heartbroken, an Internet forum isn't likely a consolation avenue. Especially when there are legit things the team can do to improve.
 

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Oh its already started right here in this thread. People just can't help themselves.
No you are just soft and butthurt over what happened, and some of us aren't in that mind space and want to talk about how to improve.

I really don't care about the funeral tears of the season. I care more about chatting about what I saw in the series we just lost that are clear things to change moving forward.

This is called Growth Mindset. Crying about what happened, and has ALWAYS happened for the history of this franchise, isn't very useful nor interesting to me.

I commend them for their efforts this season -- I do not commend the FO though. They could have done better, can do better, and should do better. There is nothing wrong with that being stated here -- or elsewhere.
 

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I havent been this devastated since XLIX. Just heartbroken. It'll take some time for me to get over this one.
Well done, thanks for letting us know you want to cry in a pillow. What else do you want from us? Prozac?
 

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If you want to pick a fight go somewhere else. Not interested.
That's just it, I am not interested in that at all.

But you want to keep pressing the point of whining and crying and I am not interested in that either. You said:

"My comments are valid too. You are the one who decided to give me shit about feeling bad that the team lost. Maybe take your own advice in your last paragraph."

Your comments were whining and crying. Save that for someone else bro, and know that not everyone is a sad and crying in the corner. If you don't want to interact with my comments about the FO because you are a sad panda over the Mariners doing Mariner things they have always done -- then don't respond to me. You don't see that your crying and whining over this is JUST AS VALID as my outrage that this has always been the same result because the same LACK of investment was made EVEN WHEN WE WON 116 GAMES.

Get that through your thick skull dude. The Mariners are the RECORD of REGULAR SEASON CHAMPS. They literally HAVE THE RECORD for that. To do MORE, you have SPEND MORE, and they refuse to do so at the level required. How hard is this to understand?
 
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I would have rode Kirby 5 or 6 innings or more then Woo until the 9th for Munoz.

Kirby was pulled at 60 something pitches with a 3-1 lead. Dan managed this game like it wasn't a game 7. I think Servais would have managed the pitching better tonight. I mean really what's the reason to pull Kirby when he was dealing? I hate to put most blame on a first year manager but....I am.
I would have ran my 7-8-9 high leverage dudes.

Speir, Brash, Munoz.

I literally screamed at my TV saying -- DAN use the rotation that got you here!
 
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