Adam Schein points out the Seahawks' flaws

[Tech Worlds]

I cant believe that someone would dare point out our flaws. How dare him.

 

[Hawkpower]

I cant believe that someone would dare point out our flaws. How dare him.

I think the point is that we dont see articles pointing out the flaws of the other top teams in the league.

 

[rsm650]

Throughout the article, he's saying that the Hawks can play better than what showed up at STL and Tampa - and I'm sure nobody disagrees with that.

 

[nategreat]

He lost most credibility when he wrote that he would be STUNNED, yes stunned, if the Niners lost to either the Panthers or Saints. Seems like either of these two teams could hand them a loss, and it wouldn't be that surprising.

It's funny because almost the entire article rests on the notion that we aren't playing our best football, and that we have injuries we've been dealing with. This should only ENHANCE our outlook for the rest of the season, when everything starts coming together.

 

[Seahawker86]

8-1...about to be 10-1 going into the bye week...

 

[scutterhawk]

I'm struggling to find anything inaccurate, or even misleading, in what he said about us.

He goes out of his way to show us Seahawks fans that he really likes Russell Wilson (so far so good), BUT he then he turns around, and goes dip-rod on Wilson for not passing for a zillion yards.
I'm no expert, but I do tend to take in consideration that the Seahawks were/are more "Run First" which has and will continue to produce lower passing Yards per game, SO, what is he really expecting RW to do when he's being told to stay the course with the game plan?
NOW, that being said, Bevel has tried to change up the pitch, to many fans around here, AND Lynch's consternation, tried to get cute so's not to become predictable.
I do believe that since Colemans injury, and the revival of Robinson once again leading the way, & Lynch seemingly appeased with the return of the old "One Two Punch", that although they're still not quite back to where they were, back in the middle of last Season.
There are a whole bunch of falters that Adam Schein just chose, or ignored with his summation in that article.
It all comes down to EITHER, OR, You EITHER take his brief explanation as savvy, and take Pete and all his Coaching staff as too ignorant to solve this problem, OR, you understand that Pete and Co. have all the inside know about the Seahawks, and how best to getting them to play their assignments.
There's not near enough appreciation for the knuckle down by the players and Coaching, to having fought their way back to Bucs to come from behind 21 - 0, and all with Mike Carey looking on, with the penalty flags in hand.

 

[penihawk]

Schein is a tv/radio personality. Be entertained by what he says and how he says it period.

 

[hawkfan68]

Another mediot spouting blather. I don't think the 49ers looked like Superbowlers when they played the Colts and Seahawks earlier either.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Another mediot spouting blather. I don't think the 49ers looked like Superbowlers when they played the Colts and Seahawks earlier either.

When's the last time we looked like a Super Bowl-caliber team? Week 3 against Jacksonville? Lol.

 

[drdiags]

Schein's article is one that many of the national folks need to write as well, since the pre-season hype was how the Seahawks were the odds on favorite to win the Superbowl (based on how they finished last season). While other teams like the Broncos, Saints, Chiefs and others have had steadier play, the Seahawks have not been dominating on offense since the start of the season besides the Jags game.

Now they are showing cracks in the defense with the recent running game successes against them. There is a nervousness among the national guys who all put their names in the hat. It happens. Should the Seahawks do their usual 2nd half improvements they have shown the past 2 seasons, those same folks will gladly say they had doubts but are back on the bandwagon.

But if the team continues to sputter, folks like Schein have provided themselves with cover.

If I were a talking head, I would lay cover as well. Seattle is tough to figure out right now. Everyone has seen the lows and highs of this team over the past 2 years and more. The warts are there to see. They cannot be declared paper tigers but not quite sure if they can be judged juggernauts.

 

[andyh64000]

He lost most credibility when he wrote that he would be STUNNED, yes stunned, if the Niners lost to either the Panthers or Saints. Seems like either of these two teams could hand them a loss, and it wouldn't be that surprising.

and then goes on to say that the Saints will beat the Seahawks here in Seattle.

 

[formido]

Another mediot spouting blather. I don't think the 49ers looked like Superbowlers when they played the Colts and Seahawks earlier either.

When's the last time we looked like a Super Bowl-caliber team? Week 3 against Jacksonville? Lol.

Second half of last week.

 

[volsunghawk]

Another mediot spouting blather. I don't think the 49ers looked like Superbowlers when they played the Colts and Seahawks earlier either.

When's the last time we looked like a Super Bowl-caliber team? Week 3 against Jacksonville? Lol.

Look at the caliber of teams that actually do win the Super Bowl. Look at the games they play throughout their season.

By that measure, we've looked like a Super Bowl-caliber team all season long.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Look at the caliber of teams that actually do win the Super Bowl. Look at the games they play throughout their season.

By that measure, we've looked like a Super Bowl-caliber team all season long.

Name a Super Bowl champion that went down by 21 against a winless team halfway through the season or later. I'll be surprised if there has ever been one.

 

[plyka]

I cant believe that someone would dare point out our flaws. How dare him.

I think the point is that we dont see articles pointing out the flaws of the other top teams in the league.

The bigger point is that fans will ALWAYS complain when someone says anything negative about their team. Hater, biased, blind, ignorant, brainless ---these are just a few insults thrown at anyone who dares to say anything negative about a fan's team. And the team is irrelevant, 49er fans would do the same if anyone was to say something negative about ther 9ers.

Schein's article is one that many of the national folks need to write as well, since the pre-season hype was how the Seahawks were the odds on favorite to win the Superbowl (based on how they finished last season). While other teams like the Broncos, Saints, Chiefs and others have had steadier play, the Seahawks have not been dominating on offense since the start of the season besides the Jags game.

Now they are showing cracks in the defense with the recent running game successes against them. There is a nervousness among the national guys who all put their names in the hat. It happens. Should the Seahawks do their usual 2nd half improvements they have shown the past 2 seasons, those same folks will gladly say they had doubts but are back on the bandwagon.

But if the team continues to sputter, folks like Schein have provided themselves with cover.

If I were a talking head, I would lay cover as well. Seattle is tough to figure out right now. Everyone has seen the lows and highs of this team over the past 2 years and more. The warts are there to see. They cannot be declared paper tigers but not quite sure if they can be judged juggernauts.

Agree with the post above 100%. The thing about the Hawks, however, is that the warts can be fixed easily. At the beginning of the season when Okung went out I started a thread about how they needed to bring in new players through trades, free agent pickups, etc. But believe it or not, I think the oline has weathered the storm and is starting to actually get better. I do NOT blame them for the Rams debacle. For that I blame the coaching staff and most importantly the playcalling. Having your QB drop 7 steps looking deep routes which take 3-4 seconds to mature was absurd. Not helping out the tackles with RBs/TEs/WRs chipping the edge rushers was ABSURD. But this last game I saw a lot of improvement in the playcalling. The TD to Baldwin was a prime example. They had a blitz, the pressure got to Russell within 2 seconds, but the WRs was running a short route and was hit for a TD. Another example was the TD throw to Kearse. A slant versus 2 deep zone with pressure. I'm just upset it took Bevell an entire game to make these easy adjustments.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I don't know, he's basically saying we could be playing better right? Isn't that true?

This is no time to be logical or reasonable. We must LASH! out at anyone that writes well thought out constructive criticizing articles about beloved hawks! DAMN BE THE TRUTH! DAMN BE THE FACTS!

Schein didn't write anything shocking. The Hawks do have too much talent to not be playing better. It's why every week we expect to win 30-10, and why every week we barely escape with a close victory we scratch our heads. So why is it OK for us to say it here, but not Schein?

 

[brimsalabim]

I like how he says the Niners are getting healthier... and we're not? :lol:

I'm not one that gets up in arms over some talking head doubting this team, but Adam Schein is a special brand of horrible.

I don't get what your laughing about? Crabtree is practicing already but our guys aren't.

 

[volsunghawk]

Look at the caliber of teams that actually do win the Super Bowl. Look at the games they play throughout their season.

By that measure, we've looked like a Super Bowl-caliber team all season long.

Name a Super Bowl champion that went down by 21 against a winless team halfway through the season or later. I'll be surprised if there has ever been one.

So THAT's the measure? That ONE particular scenario playing out? If I can't find that, then my entire point is lost?

How about instead, I name last year's Ravens, who managed to get outgained and out-first-downed by a KC team that would finish 2-14? Also, a Ravens team that was absolutely destroyed by the Texans two weeks afterward, by 30 points?

The previous year's Giants were fighting for a playoff spot at 7-6 when they let a 4-win Redskins team come into their stadium and build a 20-point lead into the 4th quarter. What's more, they LOST that game.

How about the 2010 Packers team that couldn't beat a 2-win Detroit Lions team led by Drew Stanton? That game saw the Packers (again, the eventual SB champs) fail to even reach the end zone, scoring a whopping 3 points.

What about the 2009 Saints? They played a 2-win Buccaneers team, and while they didn't go down by 21, they did BLOW a 17-point lead in that game and ended up losing in OT.

You've got to go back to the 2008 Steelers to find a team that didn't have a glaringly bad game or two (or more) in the regular season against a subpar opponent.

Folks have to quit thinking that SB teams are these juggernauts who play complete games all the time and never have off games and certainly never struggle against a team with a worse record. And the sad irony is that I've already had to make a post like this before, and people still see what they want to see.

 

[RolandDeschain]

So THAT's the measure? That ONE particular scenario playing out? If I can't find that, then my entire point is lost?

Talk about confirmation bias. You are reading what you want to read in my statement.

I can't even respond to your reply, honestly. You're projecting, and reading into it way too much. There's a lot wrong with what you think I think.

 

[volsunghawk]

So THAT's the measure? That ONE particular scenario playing out? If I can't find that, then my entire point is lost?

Talk about confirmation bias. You are reading what you want to read in my statement.

I can't even respond to your reply, honestly. You're projecting, and reading into it way too much. There's a lot wrong with what you think I think.

Talk about cherry picking, then.

You asked when the last time we looked like a SB caliber team was.

My point is that people have a completely misguided idea of what a "SB caliber team" actually IS.

In their fantasy world, it's some team that dominates teams with less talent, plays strong on the road and beats teams with winning records regularly, and never has an off game.

But that's almost NEVER the case with the teams that actually WIN the SB. SB caliber teams have off games, even against teams with crappy records. SB caliber teams struggle at times, even putting together losing streaks at some point during the season. SB caliber teams are not immune to bad play, bad matchups, bad luck, or boneheaded mistakes.