49ers. (Seahawks-Related)

[gargantual]

Beating down the Whiners is sweeter that beating down any other team (well, we haven't played the Stealers in a while.... that would be fun as well )......and seeing lame whiner fans disappear for months afterwards is the ultimate cherry on the top!

 

[Carmon1274]

When was the last time the Hawks beat the Niners on the road?

We can't say anything yet, but we gotta wait another week to find out. Oh and It would be a bummer if Harvin doesn't play against the Niners when they got Crabtree back.

 

[SF49r]

I kind of laughed at this thread because it also compares to my thoughts about the seahawks, I wanted my team to destroy the seahawks in week 2, called them a punk ass team, wannabe bullies, nearly hated every person associated with the seahawks except Wilson, I don't see how you can hate on him, toughest SOB out there for his size and the one of the most humble and respectable person in the NFL. It's gonna be a slugfest next week probably even another great defensive battle. I am confident this time we can win this and I am sure most of you guys feel you are gonna get an easy win anyway good luck next week and lets hope for no injuries

 

[kobebryant]

Just on espn.com looking at next weeks sched, and San Fran is FAVOURED over Seattle by 3 points. WTF ?????

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/scoreboar ... kNumber=14

As a bettor that line actually makes a lot of sense.

When two good teams play the advantage goes to 1) home team 2) team with more on the line 3) team with something to prove/bigtime emotions to get up for the game. Should the Hawks beat the Saints the odds go even further against the Hawks as they'll be 1) coming of a big win and 2) have even less incentive.

The 49ers being in a wildcard race + embarrassed in the last two matchups + plus the Hawks possibly being even more comfortable by next week is a formula that traditionally favors the team in the 49ers position. A win would mean a lot to them, a loss wouldn't mean much to the Hawks.

Vegas knows what they're doing.

 

[Hawkboi]

Just on espn.com looking at next weeks sched, and San Fran is FAVOURED over Seattle by 3 points. WTF ?????

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/scoreboar ... kNumber=14

Home teams generally get 3 points. So Vegas is basically calling this a toss up.

If Seattle wins tomorrow though, that line is moving.

When Seattle wins tomorrow!!! Had to correct that....

 

[MidwestHawker]

Just on espn.com looking at next weeks sched, and San Fran is FAVOURED over Seattle by 3 points. WTF ?????

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/scoreboar ... kNumber=14

Typical Media Circle Jerk...Now that they have their main offensive players back, they are the media darlings once again. :rocket:

...the media don't set the betting lines.

SF is an awfully good team, as much as I hate them. It is what it is.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

No worries Aros, you'll get your beatdown. They do not match up with the Hawks well at all, and Pete & Co. have figured Douchebaugh and his crew out completely. The way our team has beaten them the last two times they've played makes it rather obvious.

Oh, and I will thoroughly enjoy it not so I can hold it over the heads of the two Whiner fans I work with, hell I likely won't say a word, but rather to wallow in knowing they simply know my Hawks are better than their team and any hope of that being different for quite some time has been blown out of the water.

 

[bellingerga]

Im laughing pretty hard at your comment about krapperdinks eyes being too close together Aros

When I showed the Russell Wilson VS Colin Kaepernick thingy showing what they do in their offtime, my fiance says "UGH GOD He just looks like one of those creepy guys you just can't trust, and his eyes are too close together" hahah

 

[AROS]

Man you got it bad, love reading melt downs like this, cant wait to see what happens next week. And you call Crabtree a "punk", that would descriibe most of your secondary.

Thanks again for the laugh.

Who's got it bad? The man who posts on his own team's forum about a hated rival or the pathetic rival fan who was squatting on the rival site to respond so quickly?

Checkmate. Now leave.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Man you got it bad, love reading melt downs like this, cant wait to see what happens next week. And you call Crabtree a "punk", that would descriibe most of your secondary.

Thanks again for the laugh.

Who's got it bad? The man who posts on his own team's forum about a hated rival or the pathetic rival fan who was squatting on the rival site to respond so quickly?

Checkmate. Now leave.

:thirishdrinkers: :229031_cheers:

 

[BocciHawk]

The Rams just looked terrible out there. The offense had passes dropped or off target all over the place, and the defense couldn't reliably cover guys without leaving big spaces to exploit. The Redskins looked even worse. I agree with the OP that the 49ers haven't beaten a quality team in a while... it'll be fun watching their forums explode when the 49ers are tested and found wanting.

 

[Hawkscanner]

I think Colin Kapweroidheosa127129 is a fraud. The dude locks onto his first receiver and apparently forgets the memo on checkdowns and progressions during a play. Yet, Davis, Boldin and now Crabtree bails him out brilliantly on a high percentage of plays.

I've been saying that for the past year and a half. I mentioned that going in to that 42-13 whooping last year. In that Preview, I pointed out the following ...

Here are the distribution of passes since Colin Kaepernick took over as the starting QB ...

Receiver	Catches	Yards	TD's	% of Passing Off
WR Michael Crabtree	34	428	4	33.0%
TE Vernon Davis	14	142	1	13.59%
WR Mario Manningham	13	171	0	12.62%
WR Randy Moss	10	127	1	9.70%
RB Frank Gore	9	92	1	8.73%
TE Delanie Walker	8	146	1	7.76%
FB Bruce Miller	7	55	0	6.79%
WR Kyle Williams	4	84	0	3.88%
RB LaMichael James	1	15	0	0.97%
WR Ted Ginn, Jr.	1	1	0	0.97%

[tdo=5]Distribution of Passes (Week 10-15)[/tdo]

The offensive numbers since Kaepernick took over are very revealing. Crabtree has been a whopping 1/3 of the 49ers passing offense – even more of a go to option than when Alex Smith was this team’s starting QB.

Source:
http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59979

Kaepernick has shown this tendency to really lock in on his #1 Read for awhile now.

Here's another major difference between Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick that I figured out long before there was data to back it up -- with Kaepernick, you WANT to flush him out of the pocket and make him run. If you do that, he is pretty much relegated to the role of runner ... not PASSER. Greg Cosell noted exactly that last year ...

QB's Inside The Pocket Vs. OUTSIDE the Pocket Stats (2012)...

Total QBR Inside the Pocket ...
Russell Wilson ... 77.0
Colin Kaepernick ... 83.0

Total QBR Outside the Pocket ...
Russell Wilson ... 62.5
Colin Kaepernick ... 15.6

Source:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/85661/cosells-thoughts-plus-qb-pocket-stats

See, if you flush Russell Wilson outside the pocket and make him run ... he STILL is a Pro Bowl Level QB, as he can throw and throw accurate deep balls even at a near dead sprint. Kaepernick -- not so much. To give you guys a comparison of just how bad of a passer Kaepernick is outside the pocket ... John Skelton (remember him with the Cardinals) had a Total QBR of 21.2.

Those flaws right there are what give me confidence that the Seahawks will go in to Candlestick next week and lay the wood.

 

[gargantual]

Colin Kaepernick ... 15.6

Wow....just.....wow. I'd hate to be them.

 

[rideaducati]

That game will be the niners superbowl.

 

[OrFan]

That game will be the niners superbowl.

Which they will lose, just like they did in the other one last year!

 

[Giedi]

That game will be the niners superbowl.

Ummm... no. 49ers have 4+ lombardies, that Dec. 8 game will be just another game. I also predict it will be a really tough game. Even if the 'Hawks lost their two CB's and Harvin isn't playing, it will be a tough game one way or the other. I think Browner will have his suspension reduced and you will have him for the playoffs, where it will really matter to 'Hawks and help them.

I think the 'Hawks will beat Breese because it will be in your house and that 12th man is insanely good at screwing up the other teams offenses. Congrats on that. If the Saints beat the 'Hawks, it will be because somebody really screwed up badly on your team. If mistakes are even and turnovers are even, 'Hawks will beat the Saints.

 

[Popeyejones]

Total QBR Inside the Pocket ...
Russell Wilson ... 77.0
Colin Kaepernick ... 83.0

Total QBR Outside the Pocket ...
Russell Wilson ... 62.5
Colin Kaepernick ... 15.6

Source:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/85661/cosells-thoughts-plus-qb-pocket-stats

Colin Kaepernick ... 15.6

Wow....just.....wow. I'd hate to be them.

Just for clarification, those are QBR stats from December of last season.

If you want to look at this season, here is Russell Wilson and the awful, incompetent, useless, and pathetic Kaepernick:

Wilson: 64.2
Kaepernick: 66.9

(Last season Wilson was 71.7 and Kaepernick was 72.2; according to QBR Kaep has been better in each season than Wilson, and both players have regressed a tad this year, Wilson more so)

That said, we can OF COURSE debate the usefulness of the statistic, but it doesn't says what Hawks fans want it to say (one of the reasons why there's a whole thread here bashing the statistic).

(don't think an inside/outside version has been published for this year, but the point still stands, IMO).

 

[homerun1970]

I kind of laughed at this thread because it also compares to my thoughts about the seahawks, I wanted my team to destroy the seahawks in week 2, called them a punk ass team, wannabe bullies, nearly hated every person associated with the seahawks except Wilson, I don't see how you can hate on him, toughest SOB out there for his size and the one of the most humble and respectable person in the NFL. It's gonna be a slugfest next week probably even another great defensive battle. I am confident this time we can win this and I am sure most of you guys feel you are gonna get an easy win anyway good luck next week and lets hope for no injuries

When was the great defensive battle? I remember your team giving up 43 and 29 points. The team 9ers lost to yeah that defense has to yet let kaep into the endzone.

 

[Popeyejones]

^^^ He's referring to the last time the Hawks and 9ers played at Candlestick. It was last October, and the 9ers won 13-6.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=321018025

In any case, in an effort to take a weird and misplaced shot at him, I think you're missing some olive branches being extended:

*He is quite complimentary of Wilson.
*He's acknowledging that as a 9ers all the vitriol for the 9ers and their fans in this thread is not foreign to him, as he has felt it too in reverse.
*He's saying both fanbases think they'll win, and he's sincerely wishing the Hawks luck and saying we can all agree to hope for both teams coming out of the game without injury.

 

[Weadoption]

I smell FEAR.
Hawks lose the next 3, an history would just yawn, same old same old.