49ers decline request for Fangio interview

[Laloosh]

Hey Marv, what's the word on this in Niner land? I'm curious if Fangio wasn't interested or if the Niners' front office is actually taking the option off of the table. If it's the latter, how do you guys feel about that kind of action from the organization?

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[RolandDeschain]

Ohhhhhh, Laloosh. If I didn't know better, I'd think you're taunting poor Marvin!

 

[Laloosh]

Ohhhhhh, Laloosh. If I didn't know better, I'd think you're taunting poor Marvin!

I'm actually not. I like Fangio. Marv takes an interest in what's going on down there, hoping he's heard/read things that might provide some insight.

If it were any team other than Washington, I'd probably assume it's just the niner front office being DBs. Working for the D.C. ownership might be off-putting enough to avoid even having to say no himself, thus asking his bosses to simply decline the request.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Look at you, rollin' with the plausible deniability. Alright, alright. I believe you.

 

[mikeak]

I made a point about how they did the same thing last year in a different thread. So not the first time...

 

[Hasselbeck]

Don't see the big issue here.. the Niners don't want to let Fangio make a lateral move.. I'm sure their preference is to keep him in SF if at all possible.

*shrug*

 

[Laloosh]

Don't see the big issue here.. the Niners don't want to let Fangio make a lateral move.. I'm sure their preference is to keep him in SF if at all possible.

*shrug*

Might not be an issue at all.

Then again, if he is interested in other jobs and they refuse to allow him to explore other opportunities, sort of strikes me as dickish. Then again, I don't work in the NFL and don't know how most organizations would treat such requests but given the recent "changes" in coaching staff, wouldn't you want to start things off with your new head coach having guys that actually want to be there?

I don't know the situation which is why I'm asking the question... *shrug*

 

[Seafan]

I love that the 9ers are quickly becoming the cellar dwellers of the NFC West. Couldn't happen to a better organization.

Jed York = Daniel Snyder

 

[Marvin49]

Don't see the big issue here.. the Niners don't want to let Fangio make a lateral move.. I'm sure their preference is to keep him in SF if at all possible.

*shrug*

Might not be an issue at all.

Then again, if he is interested in other jobs and they refuse to allow him to explore other opportunities, sort of strikes me as dickish. Then again, I don't work in the NFL and don't know how most organizations would treat such requests but given the recent "changes" in coaching staff, wouldn't you want to start things off with your new head coach having guys that actually want to be there?

I don't know the situation which is why I'm asking the question... *shrug*

Not all that uncommon for teams to deny requests on lateral moves. If the Redskins wanted him as a HC, Niners would have to comply.

How do I feel about it? I got no issue. He's got a year left on his contract as one of if not the highest paid DCs in the league.

I know Fangio is still a HC candidate at this point but my guess is 49ers are trying to find a way to bring in an offensive minded guy (Shanahan?) and keep the D as intact as they can.

As for his desire to stay...I have no idea. Nobodies talking right now. Not so sure if I were Fangio I'd want to leave the cushy job he has right now to go to Washington unless it was a HC opportunity.

 

[Marvin49]

I love that the 9ers are quickly becoming the cellar dwellers of the NFC West. Couldn't happen to a better organization.

Jed York = Daniel Snyder

Oh stop.

When the 49ers start trading away all their high draft picks for past their prime vets, giving 100 mil contracts to the likes of Albert Haynesworth, and York starts dumping vanilla ice cream on the desk of their Defensive Coordinator, then you can come at me with that.

Jed got rid of a successful coach. He also hired that coach.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Don't see the big issue here.. the Niners don't want to let Fangio make a lateral move.. I'm sure their preference is to keep him in SF if at all possible.

*shrug*

The big issue is you're creating a hostile climate where your coaches aren't allowed to move on if they want to. It's a very hostile way to run an organization.........and will eventually result in contempt and resentment.

No matter what business you're in, you should never hold your employees back from bettering their lives.

 

[Marvin49]

Don't see the big issue here.. the Niners don't want to let Fangio make a lateral move.. I'm sure their preference is to keep him in SF if at all possible.

*shrug*

The big issue is you're creating a hostile climate where your coaches aren't allowed to move on if they want to. It's a very hostile way to run an organization.........and will eventually result in contempt and resentment.

No matter what business you're in, you should never hold your employees back from bettering their lives.

Sure...but somehow I doubt Seattle would be granting permission for Dan Quinn to seek employment as a DC elsewhere in the league while he is still under contract. HC? That's a different matter.

Why should teams let coaches walk away from contracts when they don't let players do so?

Nobody makes a fuss about not letting HCs switch teams when they are still under contract...why should it be any different with a lateral move at a Coordinator spot?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Don't see the big issue here.. the Niners don't want to let Fangio make a lateral move.. I'm sure their preference is to keep him in SF if at all possible.

*shrug*

The big issue is you're creating a hostile climate where your coaches aren't allowed to move on if they want to. It's a very hostile way to run an organization.........and will eventually result in contempt and resentment.

No matter what business you're in, you should never hold your employees back from bettering their lives.

Sure...but somehow I doubt Seattle would be granting permission for Dan Quinn to seek employment as a DC elsewhere in the league while he is still under contract. HC? That's a different matter.

Why should teams let coaches walk away from contracts when they don't let players do so?

Nobody makes a fuss about not letting HCs switch teams when they are still under contract...why should it be any different with a lateral move at a Coordinator spot?

Yeah maybe you're right, because it's a lateral move. But IMO it still creates a hostile environment, if Fangio doesn't want to be in SF, then what kind of effort are you going to get out of him?

btw, it's weird to me that SF didn't fire the whole staff, cause any new HC is going to want to either bring his own coordinators or be involved in hiring.

 

[Marvin49]

Don't see the big issue here.. the Niners don't want to let Fangio make a lateral move.. I'm sure their preference is to keep him in SF if at all possible.

*shrug*

The big issue is you're creating a hostile climate where your coaches aren't allowed to move on if they want to. It's a very hostile way to run an organization.........and will eventually result in contempt and resentment.

No matter what business you're in, you should never hold your employees back from bettering their lives.

Sure...but somehow I doubt Seattle would be granting permission for Dan Quinn to seek employment as a DC elsewhere in the league while he is still under contract. HC? That's a different matter.

Why should teams let coaches walk away from contracts when they don't let players do so?

Nobody makes a fuss about not letting HCs switch teams when they are still under contract...why should it be any different with a lateral move at a Coordinator spot?

Yeah maybe you're right, because it's a lateral move. But IMO it still creates a hostile environment, if Fangio doesn't want to be in SF, then what kind of effort are you going to get out of him?

btw, it's weird to me that SF didn't fire the whole staff, cause any new HC is going to want to either bring his own coordinators or be involved in hiring.

They like ALOT of the coaches they have on the staff. If it was up to them, my guess is they'd keep the entire defensive staff and Rathman and Solari on offense.

As it is, I think they'll bring in the new coach (and that new coach could be Fangio or Tomsula) and then let the new coach and old coaches figure it out from there.

Tomsula for example has survived Nolan, Sing, and now Harbaugh. In fact he was the interim coach for one game after Sing was fired.

As for the "hostile environment" part...well that makes the assumption that he WANTS to leave SF, and he's shown no desire to do so...yet.

 

[Marvin49]

It's disconcerting to me that you actually want Shanahan to be the niners next head coach, Marvin. He's bollocks. Still, I guess it would mean we'll be able to dominate for a few more years at least.

There are a ton of issues that could come with Shanahan as the head coach, but there is a lot there that intrigues me from an offensive standpoint.

The key tho is they need to keep Fangio and don't give Shanahan any personnel control.

I think what makes me the most curious with Shanahan would be the implementation of the zone-blocking scheme. I'd like to see Gore if he comes back but Hyde in particular on those stretch and cutback runs.

Here's the thing tho...it ain't just Shanahan that would run that. I'd also be real curious about Kubiak...but the damn Ravens won and might win again in NE.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

As for the "hostile environment" part...well that makes the assumption that he WANTS to leave SF, and he's shown no desire to do so...yet.

I did consider this. Maybe the organization saying no is a polite way for Fangio to not have to say no himself, as to not burn any bridges for future job opportunities.

 

[Jville]

A lot of examples of double standards continue to pour out of Santa Clara and Jed York.

Greg Roman to interview with Jaguars for OC job >>> [urltargetblank]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/06/greg-roman-to-interview-with-jaguars-for-oc-job/[/urltargetblank]

According to Ryan O’Halloran of the Florida Times-Union, Roman will interview with the Jaguars later this week for their offensive coordinator opening.

The Bills have also asked for permission to talk to him about their head-coaching job, and he interviewed for the vacant OC position in Tampa Bay as well.

 

[Marvin49]

A lot of examples of double standards continue to pore out of Santa Clara and Jed York.

Greg Roman to interview with Jaguars for OC job >>> [urltargetblank]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/06/greg-roman-to-interview-with-jaguars-for-oc-job/[/urltargetblank]

According to Ryan O’Halloran of the Florida Times-Union, Roman will interview with the Jaguars later this week for their offensive coordinator opening.

The Bills have also asked for permission to talk to him about their head-coaching job, and he interviewed for the vacant OC position in Tampa Bay as well.

Pore?

 

[Jville]

A lot of examples of double standards continue to pore out of Santa Clara and Jed York.

Greg Roman to interview with Jaguars for OC job >>> [urltargetblank]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/06/greg-roman-to-interview-with-jaguars-for-oc-job/[/urltargetblank]

According to Ryan O’Halloran of the Florida Times-Union, Roman will interview with the Jaguars later this week for their offensive coordinator opening.

The Bills have also asked for permission to talk to him about their head-coaching job, and he interviewed for the vacant OC position in Tampa Bay as well.

Pore?

Consider the spelling fix. The huge problems in Santa Clara remain.
A lot of examples of double standards continue to pour out of Santa Clara and Jed York.

Greg Roman to interview with Jaguars for OC job >>> [urltargetblank]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/06/greg-roman-to-interview-with-jaguars-for-oc-job/[/urltargetblank]

According to Ryan O’Halloran of the Florida Times-Union, Roman will interview with the Jaguars later this week for their offensive coordinator opening.

The Bills have also asked for permission to talk to him about their head-coaching job, and he interviewed for the vacant OC position in Tampa Bay as well.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Pore?

The joke is that they're a sweat stain on the armpit of the NFL. Get it now? :lol: