Sam Howell traded to Vikings

SoulfishHawk said:

Even during one his best drafts in years, people can't even tip the cap. As if it would physically hurt give him some credit

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Me bowing:

HawkFreak said:

They also went out and got themselves new coaches and a new scheme for the offense. Unless we're saying that makes very little difference to how players perform effectively in their positions.

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They get new coordinators all the time and the same issues always seem to persist. At some point you have to look elsewhere other than the coaching.

Lol at people who were posting he'd be a starter here...terrible trade when it happened. Missed out on some decent players because of it.

pittpnthrs said:

They get new coordinators all the time and the same issues always seem to persist. At some point you have to look elsewhere other than the coaching.

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Maybe they haven't gotten the right coordinators. Or even good ones.

HawkFreak said:

Maybe they haven't gotten the right coordinators. Or even good ones.

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You can keep believing that if you want.

HawkFreak said:

They also went out and got themselves new coaches and a new scheme for the offense. Unless we're saying that makes very little difference to how players perform effectively in their positions.

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I expect a couple of our O-Linemen will take a step forward in the new scheme and new coaching.
Bradford, Haynes, Olu, Laumea, Sundell. Plus maybe a healthy Abe Lucas for more games this year.

If Zabel balls out, and Cross and Lucas stay healthy, and just 2 of those 5 returning OL (that I listed) improve a little, the OL could be decent, maybe even middle of the pack.

I don't like blaming Grubb for so much, but I don't think Grubb was ready to be an NFL OC. Kubiak and a more balanced scheme could work wonders for better OL play.

Sadly for Sam Howell, none of that will help him in Minnesota.

Mills may prove to be one of our best picks in this draft. Sam Howell gave us the opportunity to pick Mills, so he has given value to the Hawks and we can move on.

I saw on X Howell thanking God for the trade to Minnesota

pittpnthrs said:

You can keep believing that if you want.

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Thanks for the permission. In return I'll give you permission to keep believing that the entire Oline consists of trash players who need to be replaced.

It's just the interior. Cross and Lucas are fine.

Most of the time, if it looks like dog crap, it's usually dog crap.

pittpnthrs said:

Still laughing at the people claiming he was QBotF material.

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I didn’t see much of people claiming he was qbotf material. I saw people saying they wanted to see if he was better than Geno who also isn’t qbotf material.

JustTheTip said:

I didn’t see much of people claiming he was qbotf material. I saw people saying they wanted to see if he was better than Geno who also isn’t qbotf material.

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Geno is now QBoTP. That P is for past. At one point from 2022-2024 that P would have represented Present. I'm curious as to what peoples definition of Quarterback of the Future really even means. Sam Howell, by virtue of being younger than Geno, and the backup, was by default last year, QBOTF. Its not a guaranteed slot, more like an assumption. Its such a weird thing that is only used for the QB position. Currently, the Seahawks have three QBs that could be in that QBOTF nonsense. Four if you want to throw in Jaren Hall. If all four of them eventually get snaps in a regular season game, then they are all a QBOTF. For some reason, this QBOTF monicker has taken the place of "franchise QB". And that is what I think most people probably think or wish about a young QB. They hope he will be a franchise type QB. The whole "of the future" crap is just too broad of a label and kind of unfair to whoever is assigned to it. Is Zabel our new LGOTF? No. Hes a guard that we have high hopes for. Emmanwori is not SSOTF, he is a SS. Do we put "OTF" after every position for each draft choice? No! Any QB that might have a chance to play in the future, is by the very definition a Quarterback of the future. We don't know how long that future will last for said QB. It could be one game or ten years.

Now with all that being said, and my general dislike for that acronym, I believe that with the choice of Jalen Milroe, the Seahawks very likely do have a future franchise QB. He is definately a QBOTF because I am 100% certain that at some point he will actually play QB for the Seahawks in a regular season game.

Rant over.

Sam Howell will be missed.

Sincerely,
No one

No one has received more crap for being a back up QB. Not sure why he has gotten so much vitriol especially when he cost us what equalled a 6th round pick and we traded him away in a similar type trade.
I'm glad he is gone so we don't have to trash on him anymore.
Now we can move on to our next target. Milroe for some maybe Darnold if he struggles.

No doubt. He didn't do anything to deserve bashing the guy. He came in late in a game that was long since over, a game that Geno was playing like garbage in. Other than that, he never got a shot. I can't remember anyone saying that Howell was the QBOFT, he was signed to be a backup, that's what he was.

Hawkinaz said:

I saw on X Howell thanking God for the trade to Minnesota

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I told my Viking fan buddy that it was a good thing. If JJ stinks it up and howell isnt the answer - they will be able to grab Shaduer cheap in a couple years.

pittpnthrs said:

They get new coordinators all the time and the same issues always seem to persist. At some point you have to look elsewhere other than the coaching.

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You're right. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but we're letting you go to pursue other opportunities.

TeamoftheCentury said:

You're right. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but we're letting you go to pursue other opportunities.

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Sorry, I have a No Trade clause

RehireMora said:

A 5th round swap? And what did Sammy cost the team to acquire him?

Strong work JS!

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I laugh at this take. Swing away John Schneider, what’s a good batting average for a gm?

pittpnthrs said:

I would start by trying to address real needs at least. When you use draft picks for a TE that's made of glass and a QB you hope can be the next Taysom Hill, that's a problem.

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I don’t think he hopes milroe=taysom.
I think he hopes milroe=vick

(Minus the dog stuff)