Was that flukey two point conversion by the officials good coaching?

[Lords of Scythia]

Or just good luck?

 

[Dolomight12]

Yes

 

[trharder]

It's not an either-or situation. It can be both and was. My interpretation of what Macdonald said was that it's taught in general to players to pick up loose balls, not that it's in any way unique Seahawk's coaching. Charb did track the ball and jog over to it and pick it up, thus qualifying as "continuing action" for the rule. period.

 

[Lords of Scythia]

It's not an either-or situation. It can be both and was. My interpretation of what Macdonald said was that it's taught in general to players to pick up loose balls

And touch it down in the end zone?

 

[oldhawkfan]

Charbs nonchalantly picked the ball up in the end zone. There was no sense of urgency whatsoever. He was like everyone else in the stadium and at home who looked at it as a failed 2 point attempt. It was a fluke play that we clearly got lucky on. This play was in a way similar to the TD against NO on the kickoff after they scored a fg. The right place at the right time.

Let’s not try to make this 2 pointer into some great sense of coaching and execution. It was a backwards pass that I would argue no one paid attention to until replay showed it going backwards. Thank God all scoring plays are automatically reviewed.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Let’s not try to make this 2 pointer into some great sense of coaching and execution.

Why not?

I mean, it's always weird when people bring an agenda into a discussion.

 

[trharder]

Let’s not try to make this 2 pointer into some great sense of coaching and execution. It was a backwards pass that I would argue no one paid attention to until replay showed it going backwards. Thank God all scoring plays are automatically reviewed.

If Charb just turned and walked to the sideline, we don't get the 2 points. But instead he tracked it and picked it up meeting the bar for continuing action. It was heads-up by Charbs. Of course, it was lucky, and Charb was just going through the motions, but he did.

 

[seabowl]

It would’ve been interesting if no player picked up the ball in the end zone and the ref was the first one to pick it up thinking the play was over

 

[SocialParasite]

Yes

 

[trharder]

It would’ve been interesting if no player picked up the ball in the end zone and the ref was the first one to pick it up thinking the play was over

My understanding is that if no one went to the ball, the play was in fact "over" (dead). In this case, it was ruled (with replay hindsight) not over because Charb "continued the action".

 

[ivotuk]

Charbonet was not in a hurry because no one else was going after the ball.

You see it all of the time, if a Rams player would have went after it, I'm sure Zach wild have beaten him to it.

I've seen a couple of remarks about "Can't advance a fumble," but it was a deflection of a backwards pass, that was almost intercepted/recovered, but instead squirted through Curl's arms and landed in the end zone. Had Curl trapped it between himself and the ground, and pulled it to himself, it would have been a recovery by the Rams.

At no point did it become a forward pass, but instead was a backwards pass from the time it left Darnold's hand, until it hit Verse's helmet, and ended up on the ground where it becomes a fumble, and not an incomplete pass.

At that point, whoever recovers the ball (in the end zone), has possession of the ball in the end zone.

Rams recovery (by Curl), would have been a touchback.

Instead, it's a Seahawks 2 point conversion.

I didn't see Zach attempt to hand the ball to anyone.

 

[trharder]

 

[oldhawkfan]

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I’m guessing Jimmy is a lambs fan

 

[Hawkstud]

It's not an either-or situation. It can be both and was. My interpretation of what Macdonald said was that it's taught in general to players to pick up loose balls, not that it's in any way unique Seahawk's coaching. Charb did track the ball and jog over to it and pick it up, thus qualifying as "continuing action" for the rule. period.

You betchya, that lateral/backward pass deflected off of Adverse's helmet took an unlucky ricochet for the Rams and a Super Lucky bounce for the Seahawks.
It is known that somebody UP THERE was a Seahawks fan in this game.

 

[Hawkstud]

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"Some were walking off the field" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Them that were moseying away weren't a factor in that live ball recovery.
The Refs did right by the official rule book on this particular play and should be commended for it.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Why can't it be both? It was luck that got the ball to bounce off Verse head into the end zone. But without the coaching that is done to tell the players to always got get the ball just in case and Charbs remembering that, he does't go get the ball for the 2.

 

[Atradees]

Over the years, it seems like I've seen the backward pass and some cool play come from it. I like the rule.

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

It was some % luck, some % skill. The sum total of it all was 100% pure entertainment.

 

[DTiempo81]

Thread 'Backwards pass 2 point conversion' https://www.seahawks.net/threads/backwards-pass-2-point-conversion.207902/

It's been addressed as nauseum here.