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This video is a perfect representation of the highs and lows of DK Metcalf. There are some great plays here, and there are some plays that are not what you expect from a #1 receiver with his salary. Many of the bad plays would be resolved if he'd simply catch with his hands instead of his body....as always.

 

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Not our problem these days. But........if REEK covers him on Sunday, he'll have a day.......
 

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Not our problem these days. But........if REEK covers him on Sunday, he'll have a day.......
DK and Riq had a lot of battles on the practice field. Riq held his own pretty well.
I still think we should have resigned Lockett to a revamped contract. He can still play at a good level and would have been a very complimentary addition to the WR lineup for this year.
 
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This video is a perfect representation of the highs and lows of DK Metcalf. There are some great plays here, and there are some plays that are not what you expect from a #1 receiver with his salary. Many of the bad plays would be resolved if he'd simply catch with his hands instead of his body....as always.


I see one pure drop of his. There was one that was thrown behind him, and even Rogers signaled to himself after the play that it was his fault. Feel free to look it up but last year he was targeted 108 times and had four drops. Very simply, if DK were playing for Seattle yesterday, they would’ve been better off than what they had on the field. Fact!

Now, I understand based on the contract numbers and his wanting to leave, they got rid of him. With this set, you don’t replace him with aged and injury prone Cooper Kupp!!
 

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Metcalf's performance against Sauce Gardner simply points to a higher ceiling where he still has room to grow and the Steelers rewarded him with such a contract. JSN is pretty much it and the Hawks have no one else to compliment him right now. Horton needs to be fast tracked to see if he can be a 2 in this league sooner or later. Kupp I am sure will be integrated into the offensive scheme better as it was only game 1.

Here is the problem long term. The rest of the NFC is loaded with WRs beyond their "#1's".

Who is lining up opposite of Nacua? D. Adams.
Cowboys Lamb and Pickens
Commanders McLaurin and Deebo
Giants Nabors and Slayton
Bears Odunze and Moore
Lions Amon-Ra St Brown and J. Williams
Packers Reed and Doubs
Vikings Jefferson and Addison (Sus)/Thielen.
Falcons Mooney and London
Panthers Tet and Legette
Saints Olave and Shaheed
Bucs Evans and Egbuka (McMillan and Godwin both set to return too).
Cardinals Jones and Harrison Jr.
And the 49ers with their rag tag group that finds ways to win.

Darnold is going to need help and right now JSN alone isn't enough.
 
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Why is it that Allen, and Mahones, and Brady (minus the Moss years) can succeed without a superstar WR burner in the outside, but the seahawks can't? Who's the DK on the niners offense? Pearsall? They didn't seem to have any problems moving the ball Sunday.

Why Because their coaches know how to scheme and design plays to get multiple positions open. Utilizing backs and TE's just as much as WRs in the passing game.

We don't need a DK, the coaches need to scheme, and design plays that put the weapons we do have in better situations to make plays.

Why cant the Seahawks run a damn screen play?

Why are our TEs not open down the seams?

I dont think this is a lack of a big burner problem, this is a scheming problem.

Having said all that it doesn't help that our other two recievers are a long in the tooth, often injured vet, and a rookie still learning the position. I was very suprised they moved on from MVS for that reason. They're going to need to step up no doubt.
 
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I agree that you can't underestimate the role of OC and offensive scheming/game planning. But you also can't underestimate what it means to have a great HOF QB to execute it. Allen, Mahomes, and Brady are all time great QB's. They make everybody around them so much better.
 

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All in all I suppose it'd be hard to say Metcalf won't be missed, but we sure won't miss the sideline temper tantrums the once per game stupid roughing or other calls against him, or his huge salary that he really wasn't truly earning. The team also wants guys who want to be here and DK didn't and was moaning for a trade so he could get paid again.

I wasn't deeply disappointed that he was traded away. I wonder how long it will be for him to burn his bridges in Pitt.
 

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I agree that you can't underestimate the role of OC and offensive scheming/game planning. But you also can't underestimate what it means to have a great HOF QB to execute it. Allen, Mahomes, and Brady are all time great QB's. They make everybody around them so much better.
Agreed that definitely plays a part.
 

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He still would have made a big difference against Santa Clara on Sunday.
Glad they traded him, but where was our deep thread? We flat out don't have one.
 

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Why is it that Allen, and Mahones, and Brady (minus the Moss years) can succeed without a superstar WR burner in the outside, but the seahawks can't? Who's the DK on the niners offense? Pearsall? They didn't seem to have any problems moving the ball Sunday.

Why Because their coaches know how to scheme and design plays to get multiple positions open. Utilizing backs and TE's just as much as WRs in the passing game.

We don't need a DK, the coaches need to scheme, and design plays that put the weapons we do have in better situations to make plays.

Why cant the Seahawks run a damn screen play?

Why are our TEs not open down the seams?

I dont think this is a lack of a big burner problem, this is a scheming problem.

Having said all that it doesn't help that our other two recievers are a long in the tooth, often injured vet, and a rookie still learning the position. I was very suprised they moved on from MVS for that reason. They're going to need to step up no doubt.

Brady suffered towards his end of career with the Patriots. They lost too much WR talent and did not replace adequately which was the catalyst for Brady to leave the Patriots and go to Tampa Bay with Evans and Godwin.

Mahomes is part of Reid's offensive system which puts an emphasis on scheming WRs open but he has modified his offense to bring in higher end talent post TO renaissance for him. Reid was very anti true #1 WR in his scheme but has changed since then and really puts an emphasis on a true #1 WR along with Kelce. That is why they spent a first on Worthy because Reid is no longer that dogmatic about WRs being a product of their system. You need talent.

The 49ers did good succeeding but they could have easily lost if the Seahawks DBs made some plays on the ball. When the 49ers play higher octane offenses they might not be able to keep up without their WRs and Kittle.
 
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All in all I suppose it'd be hard to say Metcalf won't be missed, but we sure won't miss the sideline temper tantrums the once per game stupid roughing or other calls against him, or his huge salary that he really wasn't truly earning. The team also wants guys who want to be here and DK didn't and was moaning for a trade so he could get paid again.

I wasn't deeply disappointed that he was traded away. I wonder how long it will be for him to burn his bridges in Pitt.
He had seven penalties called against him last year. Two were unnecessary roughness (both in the same game) with one of those being offsetting. The other five were regular penalties like holding or passive interference with one of those being offsetting. So what this means is, he had a total of five penalties that were enforceable last year with only one being for a personal foul. Sorry, but I’ll take those numbers for a strong receiver.
 

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This is a great reminder for why I'm glad he's gone. People still just make up stuff about the guy that doesn't exist, imo.
VERY glad we didn't pay what they are paying. But for a few that are acting like he's not missed, keep telling yourself that. We win that game vs. Santa Clara on Sunday with him playing.
 

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Remember that time DK put the team on his back and carried the whole offense? Yeah, me neither.

You may say DK's missed, but is anyone saying they'd rather have him instead of the $33M Pittsburg is paying him? His flaws may have been tolerable on his rookie deal, but his production doesn't make him a #1 WR and his attitude often makes him more trouble than he's worth.

JSN had 9 catches for 124 last week, the rest of the team had 7 for 26. That's what #1 receivers do. And after the game he said he needed to do better. That's a guy you pay $33M for.
 

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Meh, tired old argument. We all have our opinions, and they are valid. Why are we arguing over a FORMER player who didn't wanna' be here?
 

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