Double Tribble
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Ah. The "fan" card has been played.Probably "Hurr hurr....Darnold sux...he sees ghosts...." according to him.
He's made up his mind even before Sam takes a single snap for the Hawks.
Hell...even if Sam plays well for us, he'll just find a way to credit the Defense and the Wide Receivers and downplay anything Darnold does.
Same old sh*t, same type of fan, different team.![]()
"Who doesn't" is not a response to the fact that Sam Darnold struggles under pressure.
If that's seriously all people have, they've got nothing.
Darnold can make some big-boy, sit-up-and-gape throws. But he did that with a superior OC, run game, and receiver stable. For the Seahawks, I see him as a lateral move, albeit a necessary one given that Geno wanted to get paid like a guy seven years younger. But something special? I'm doubtful.
Objectively a lot of people have the dream haze and are dreaming big and not living in reality lately.Superior literally means higher in rank and quality. The Vikings finished nine spots higher than the Seahawks in rushing. Literally superior. What has happened to this board?
Ah. The "fan" card has been played.
You might be interested to know that I actually predicted the Seahawks' lone Super Bowl victory five months before it happened. While I'm still as capable of being wrong as the next man, I'd like to think it gives me a little cred in the category of spotting a special team.
But I wouldn't expect you to know about that, given that you've been here two weeks.
You accused me of just being a downer; I showed you that's not the case when I feel it's merited.I don't think that's the flex you think it is.
Predictions are, by nature, unpredictable.
So you got lucky and predicted right ONCE.
"Congrats" and all that. Woo hoo.
So what?
My point was about your apparent disregard and dismissal of what Darnold can do for the Seahawks; not about an imagined slight to your fandom of this franchise.
I have been here for a couple of weeks but I have been following that guy's career for a long time since his USC days. And after the season he had last year, I think he will do (while not as amazing as last year) a very solid job this coming season for this team.
You accused me of just being a downer; I showed you that's not the case when I feel it's merited.
It isn't dismissal. It's objective analysis of his situation and whether the situation matches that of the Hawks'; which it doesn't. That makes you the one who's ignoring things here (the different team situation).
You're making it sound like you joined this board to root for Darnold and aren't a Hawks fan at all, based on your "different team" comment and the fact that you joined right around the time the Darnold-to-Seattle rumors started firing off right before he signed. You can do that if you want, but it makes your "same type of fan" rhetoric
He had almost as many touchdowns last year as Geno has the past two years. He’s more than “can make some big boy throws” at times."Who doesn't" is not a response to the fact that Sam Darnold struggles under pressure.
If that's seriously all people have, they've got nothing.
Darnold can make some big-boy, sit-up-and-gape throws. But he did that with a superior OC, run game, and receiver stable. For the Seahawks, I see him as a lateral move, albeit a necessary one given that Geno wanted to get paid like a guy seven years younger. But something special? I'm doubtful.
I didn't want to do that. I was on record saying Geno probably should not be extended, and once he announced his price I was definitely out.If he’s 7 years younger, cheaper so you can invest in other areas and a “lateral” move I have no clue why you don’t seem to like it and would rather pay more for a guy in his mid 30’s.
Well we understood your point clearly. I am in the show me camp too even though I am not from Missouri. Because right now I have no clue what is going on with the offense. The defense though? Very, very nice.Ah. The "fan" card has been played.
You might be interested to know that I actually predicted the Seahawks' lone Super Bowl victory five months before it happened. While I'm still as capable of being wrong as the next man, I'd like to think it gives me a little cred in the category of spotting a special team.
But I wouldn't expect you to know about that, given that you've been here two weeks.
I didn't want to do that. I was on record saying Geno probably should not be extended, and once he announced his price I was definitely out.
My stance on Geno was that, should he be affordable, he had a shot at the big game IF Seattle surrounded him with a good cast. The Kubiak hire threw cold water on that for me, as did jettisoning DK, necessary though it was. Were Geno still here, I would no longer be optimistic on his chances in 2025 given the team's situation.
If you continue to misrepresent my arguments, I will not be replying to you any further.
I would love this but I also (without evidence I fully admit), feel like Kubiak and the draft will have the line performing much better next year. I think Grubbs system puts a lot of stress on a line where Kubiaks does the opposite. The guys in house showed a little promise so if even one can improve and you add a piece or two in the draft and it’s not unreasonable they can be a middle of the pack line.IF JS plays his cards, correctly, with Cleveland we may have a fine guard in the works. Teller could be a difference maker relative to our O Line of the recent and non-recent past. This fit into the 'rumor' category...
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Browns' Predicted Trade Ships $57 Million Star to Seahawks
The Cleveland Browns have yet to make any trades this offseason, which is a bit surprising given their standing heading into the spring. However, there is stillwww.si.com
I would also like this.I would love this but I also (without evidence I fully admit), feel like Kubiak and the draft will have the line performing much better next year. I think Grubbs system puts a lot of stress on a line where Kubiaks does the opposite. The guys in house showed a little promise so if even one can improve and you add a piece or two in the draft and it’s not unreasonable they can be a middle of the pack line.
We're good. I admit I defended him, certainly, but it was mostly because I wanted to preserve the image of the potential I thought he had. It would have to had to be a very cheap extension, at his age, for me to agree with keeping him around.Alright apologies for thinking you wanted to keep Geno since that’s what your posts appeared to say, if I was wrong then I was wrong.
Sam had to play for the Jets and the Panthers..... actually does well with a well crafted coached and ran team.. and has a good yearSuperior run game? Uhm..no, not even close.
19th in rushing yards per game and 20th in YPC.
And also this:
" Minnesota Vikings' running backs have the highest rate in the league (72.2%) for being hit at the line of scrimmage on runs inside the opponent's 10-yard line. "
To be fair... he's int numbers aren't any different than Patty NFL Fan Boy MHoping for the best, expecting him to be better than GePick, and won't be surprised if he regresses either. In other words, who knows. Either way, we will be set up well for the future. Go Hawks.
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If the Seahawks draft a quarterback in the first two rounds, John Schneider will have made the biggest contradiction of his entire career to date this offseason. Not only because the GM has committed $65 million to Sam Darnold over the next two seasons (Seattle can release Darnold in 2026, but not without a significant financial penalty) but also by the fact that Schneider has now put a label on why so many quarterbacks fail in the NFL:
They don’t get enough reps and they don’t feel wanted by the organization.
If the Seahawks draft a quarterback in the first round, and even in the second round, it sends a direct message to Darnold that Seattle only sees him as a bridge quarterback. Though that didn’t seem to hurt Darnold in Minnesota last year after the Vikings drafted J.J. McCarthy, picking Jaxson Dart, Shedeur Sanders, or Tyler Shough next month would send a clear message — “this is going to be a competition sooner or later” — that is directly opposed to Schneider’s own philsophy on getting the most out of each quarterback.
In an interview with ESPN’s Mike Tannenbaum on Wednesday, Schneider and Bucs GM Jason Licht were asked a series of questions about the job of general manager. The one that stood out to me, because I think there is no other mission as important as quarterback hunting (I’ll get to that later) was Tannenbaum’s question about why so many quarterbacks fail in the NFL. A number that Schneider estimated was at least 80%.
“In my opinion, the reps. Guys need opportunities and they need the reps to be able to play and not be jumping around to different systems, different quarterback coaches. That’s hard. They’re basically learning a different language. Those guys are special. To sit in those meetings and watch what they’re learning? Pretty hard.”
Then Licht said that one of the reason Baker Mayfield has succeeded with Tampa Bay over other teams (including the Panthers, when he was teammates with Darnold), was that he felt like he was wanted there. To which Schneider emphatically agrees, “Yes!”
“There’s a psychological advantage to that, when they feel like they’re at a place where they’re wanted,” said Licht.
Then Schneider added, “And you have to evaluate the person that’s working with him too. Okay, are the (coaches) buying in?”
If the Seahawks draft Dart in the first round, or even Shough in the second round (despite a low rate of return, second round QBs are also usually treated like future starters), it does not send the message to Darnold that Seattle is fully committed to him as the starter. It does keep him looking over his shoulder for the entire season.
You may recall that at the end of last season, there were boos for Darnold and calls to make a change at quarterback in the playoffs if Darnold didn’t snap out of his “funk”…which was essentially one horrible start against the Lions to lose the NFC North title in Week 18 and then a poor start in Minnesota’s wild card loss to the Rams:
What are fans going to say in TRAINING CAMP if the Seahawks draft Dart and then Darnold has a few bad practices?
Adding a significant quarterback prospect to the roster between now and then would be the opposite of Schneider “buying in” to Sam Darnold.
Seaside Joe tries to avoid absolute definitive predictions, but the odds of the Seahawks taking a quarerback in the top-80 seems to be less than 5%.
Even a third round quarterback might only be compared to Russell Wilson.
Darnold has a John63 or whatever his name was....You accused me of just being a downer; I showed you that's not the case when I feel it's merited.
It isn't dismissal. It's objective analysis of his situation and whether the situation matches that of the Hawks'; which it doesn't. That makes you the one who's ignoring things here (the different team situation).
You're making it sound like you joined this board to root for Darnold and aren't a Hawks fan at all, based on your "different team" comment and the fact that you joined right around the time the Darnold-to-Seattle rumors started firing off right before he signed. You can do that if you want, but it makes your "same type of fan" rhetoric pretty audacious.