Top Billing on Sam Darnold

[beaumaris]

Sam Darnold is only a reasonable option bevause he is cheaper and hedges against not being able to build a better team overall over the next 2 years if your qb isnt top 10 and getting paid as such.

By every metric that measure pure accuracy, being able to perform under pressure, Darnold isnt as good as Geno. Folks can point to geno's TDs last year and say - he cant handle pressure and makes mistakes when it comes. Especially in the redzone. That analysis completely ignores the OC and gives the guy a pass when the NFL literally said 'no thanks'to him in 2025 and ushered him back to college. It also ignores geno going 33 v 2 in the redzone prior to Grubb but still with an OC that cant get a job as such in the NFL anymore. Need more convincing? The Raiders had the option to grab Darnold. Tom Brady, who by all accounts has plenty of opinion and say in the shaping of the franchise and knows QBs, chose instead to go with Geno and surrender draft capital to do it.

Darnold put up comperable stats with a run game that ranked 9 spots better, a better O line and a far superior play caller. In other words, he was given tools that SHOULD have seen him perform FAR superior than what our last QB did and he didnt. The fact that we are hoping its a lateral move is all you need to know about the situation. And more telling, the fact that Minny was tbought to be ready to annoint JJ qb1 with Darnold moving on and yet they now seem more inclined to bring ANOTHER qb to play ahead of him says that they just werent high on Sam. Why?

Maybe this is the reason?



FF to about 4 minutes to understand his shortcomings. Skip to around 6:45 to understand the difference between Geno and Darnold.

And note that this is a video praising the move.

I am hoping the dude 1., with an offense that wont rely on him to do even close to what he had to do in Minny or what Geno was asked to here, and 2. With a philosophy that puts defense first, floursihes and can be a better Dave Kreig in helpinh this team win. Or shoot, just be a better Russell Wilson circa 2013 at reading defense and just let the run game and D be the focus of the team.

If the O line is anywhere near as bad as last year, we dont sniff 9 wins with Darnold.

What a load of cobblers.

 

[glenwo2]

The Raiders surprised me. I can see why Pete wanted Geno, but how did he convince Brady and Chip? Very little doubt that Darnold was available at that point. How did Brady, and Chip Kelly come to their decision to endorse Pete?

I'm wondering if maybe the Raiders DID make Darnold an offer but the offer was for just a 1-year deal (again) like he had with Minny...and Sam was looking for more than 1 year?

I think if that's the case, I don't blame Sam for coming here.

 

[glenwo2]

What a load of cobblers.

Peach cobblers?

 

[glenwo2]

Well, to argue that they dont know goos qb play would be silly. Tom isnt going to just endorse giving up draft capital and throwing money at a dead end proposotion at the most important position on the field.

They know what they are getting and were fine giving up what they did to get him. Says a lot on my opinion. Especially when they were free to grab Darnold on the cheap and for the long term if Brady wanted him.

Funny how PC, so long derided for only wanting a qb who could hand off the ball and throw deep on PA, when given free choice, skipped over the guy (Darnold) who if anything has shown he can at least do that, in favor of a qb who can (and likely wants to) toss the ball all over the yard.

Brady, Chip and Pete said no thanks to the 'QBOTF' , cheaper, 'safer' option in Darnold and instead went with 'old man' Smith in their quest to build a winner.

Meanwhile in Seattle, we throw 'plus-side' journeyman money at Darnold and structure a contract that shows how much confidence we have in our decision by giving ourselves the option to dump him after a year.

Awesome. Great to see how much faith the leadership has in their decision making in nailing down THE key piece on a team that was beyond ready to make a playoff push.

I really believe the Raiders made Darnold an offer but it was for another 1-year deal and Sam balked at that (rightly so) which I think is why he chose to come here.....

It's still a 1-year deal (technically) but if he plays decently (at least), he knows he'll be a starter the following season as well.

 

[chris98251]

The devil you know, Geno and Pete know each other, Geno is not a wild card on the field, Pete has what maybe three years left maybe more but I would say three, that would be about the time Geno calls it quits also. This is the Last Ride of Pete and his band of old school guys.

 

[Scout]

Well, to argue that they dont know goos qb play would be silly. Tom isnt going to just endorse giving up draft capital and throwing money at a dead end proposotion at the most important position on the field.

They know what they are getting and were fine giving up what they did to get him. Says a lot on my opinion. Especially when they were free to grab Darnold on the cheap and for the long term if Brady wanted him.

Funny how PC, so long derided for only wanting a qb who could hand off the ball and throw deep on PA, when given free choice, skipped over the guy (Darnold) who if anything has shown he can at least do that, in favor of a qb who can (and likely wants to) toss the ball all over the yard.

Brady, Chip and Pete said no thanks to the 'QBOTF' , cheaper, 'safer' option in Darnold and instead went with 'old man' Smith in their quest to build a winner.

Meanwhile in Seattle, we throw 'plus-side' journeyman money at Darnold and structure a contract that shows how much confidence we have in our decision by giving ourselves the option to dump him after a year.

Awesome. Great to see how much faith the leadership has in their decision making in nailing down THE key piece on a team that was beyond ready to make a playoff push.

My counterpoint to that JS doesn't have many players on offense under contract long term and he has 10 picks which means the team is closer to retooling/reloading/rebuilding than making a playoff push.

I am not sure about the playoff push for 2025 but it seems that 2026 is the target date for that.

 

[glenwo2]

^^^ Would be great if the playoffs were a possibilty this coming season, though.

 

[glenwo2]

Time-Stamped for your convenience.








Basically stating what I've said regarding the OL. Minny wasn't all that much better than Seattle's.

This whole "Better improve the OL or Sam will see ghosts" narrative is complete nonsense.

 

[toffee]

Well, to argue that they dont know goos qb play would be silly. Tom isnt going to just endorse giving up draft capital and throwing money at a dead end proposotion at the most important position on the field.

They know what they are getting and were fine giving up what they did to get him. Says a lot on my opinion. Especially when they were free to grab Darnold on the cheap and for the long term if Brady wanted him.

Funny how PC, so long derided for only wanting a qb who could hand off the ball and throw deep on PA, when given free choice, skipped over the guy (Darnold) who if anything has shown he can at least do that, in favor of a qb who can (and likely wants to) toss the ball all over the yard.

Brady, Chip and Pete said no thanks to the 'QBOTF' , cheaper, 'safer' option in Darnold and instead went with 'old man' Smith in their quest to build a winner.

Meanwhile in Seattle, we throw 'plus-side' journeyman money at Darnold and structure a contract that shows how much confidence we have in our decision by giving ourselves the option to dump him after a year.

Awesome. Great to see how much faith the leadership has in their decision making in nailing down THE key piece on a team that was beyond ready to make a playoff push.

Quit already, you sir are preaching in such an able manner to the brotherhood of geNOs on .NET, a club started, chaired, and expertly managed by our own John Schneider. I admire your effort, but not sure if you can win the argument.

 

[glenwo2]

So Sam does have incentives. I was under the impression he did not.

 

[Shane Falco]

Time-Stamped for your convenience.



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Basically stating what I've said regarding the OL. Minny wasn't all that much better than Seattle's.

This whole "Better improve the OL or Sam will see ghosts" narrative is complete nonsense.

And it did cost them in the end.

 

[Appyhawk]

I wasn't a Darnold fan, but Geno left and that left us in a pinch. A pinch named Howell and the other guy. Now, numbers aside, Darnold looks like a good deal, and if not it's a deal we can get out of and try something different.
What is all the squabble about? Geno is where he wants to be and we're not any the worse for it. Maybe Darnold is good for two years in a row. Maybe we get a new guy in the draft to work up to the job while Darnold does what he can do. Lateral move looks like a good move to me.

 

[SonicHawk]

We are definitely worse.

 

[glenwo2]

^^^^ Your avy is funny. ngl.

 

[toffee]

We are definitely worse.

That's impossible, because John Schneider will move heaven and earth to make this season a success. After sitting under the shadow of Carroll for over a decade, finally this is Schneider's turn for the limelight.

With clever maneuvering, he finally rid the team of Geno Smith, a Carroll player. After Geno ruined Schneider's QB plan not once but twice. This season, Schneider finally has a Schneider QB, as he is the only GM to offer a contract.

 

[glenwo2]

That's impossible, because John Schneider will move heaven and earth to make this season a success. After sitting under the shadow of Carroll for over a decade, finally this is Schneider's turn for the limelight.

With clever maneuvering, he finally rid the team of Geno Smith, a Carroll player. After Geno ruined Schneider's QB plan not once but twice. This season, Schneider finally has a Schneider QB, as he is the only GM to offer a contract.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

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whooosh

 

[glenwo2]

whooosh

Dude...I know his act (and I'm having fun with it).

Don't be a jerk.

 

[glenwo2]

Anyway....

Apparently Sam was interviewed during The Masters...pretty random but okay?

 

[glenwo2]