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Thats what they are going to do. Just like his current contract. It just makes the most sense. It gives you a capable QB for now and time to find the next guy. They hope sooner than later but QB's are so hit or miss. The other main reason they extend him is it lowers his cap hit substantially allowing them to fill more holes or with better players. It's really a win-win to extend him regardless how fans feel about him.
That's what they're going to try to do. Geno has implied he wants commitment and that is the opposite of commitment. It's possible this turns somewhat ugly as both camps view the situation differently.

It's rumored they sent feelers out last year that they would entertain trade offers for Geno but no one bit. Geno feels like he deserves more and is a top 10 guy as he's said and I don't fault him. He should try to get every dollar he can.
 

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I still think its way to premature to say no one in the draft is potentially an upgrade. I totally understand being skeptical and it doesn't look like there is anyone now but lots of things change. It's possible John has someone in the draft he loves. It's a long shot but wouldn't be the first time.

Still think they extend Geno, have an annual out clause at no cost to them and they draft someone in the 2nd/3rd round with the hope they can take over after next year. If after a year of watching them in practice they don't feel confident they probably draft another guy until they get it right.
This. The defeatism here is amazing. Geno is seriously the only qb who can not get us in the playoffs and win a sb? Because whether it's 8-10 wins, or 4-6 wins, the end result is the same. No playoffs, and another year to nowhere. But, stats.
 

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This. The defeatism here is amazing. Geno is seriously the only qb who can not get us in the playoffs and win a sb? Because whether it's 8-10 wins, or 4-6 wins, the end result is the same. No playoffs, and another year to nowhere. But, stats.
geNOs has spoken, I am changing my trade to a single 2025 6th round.
 

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This. The defeatism here is amazing. Geno is seriously the only qb who can not get us in the playoffs and win a sb? Because whether it's 8-10 wins, or 4-6 wins, the end result is the same. No playoffs, and another year to nowhere. But, stats.
So who, realistically, can Seattle get at the QB position that makes them better in 2025? They have made it clear they feel they can win now so who upgrades them this coming season?
 

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So who, realistically, can Seattle get at the QB position that makes them better in 2025? They have made it clear they feel they can win now so who upgrades them this coming season?
For the geNOs? anyone but Geno Smith.
 

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So who, realistically, can Seattle get at the QB position that makes them better in 2025? They have made it clear they feel they can win now so who upgrades them this coming season?
I don’t know? Maybe there isn’t someone? I do know a lot of people wouldn’t have said Darnold, Baker, Geno, Goff etc before they had monster years though. I also know a lot of people were down on Nix, Maye, Penix, Daniels etc and they all look pretty good so far.

I trust John at this point. If it’s Geno then fine let’s go, I really hope you have a succession plan ready but regardless let’s go. If it’s someone else I’ll be excited to see what John and Mike are seeing that lead them to going that route.

I’m just not a fan of “well it’s impossible to find someone better” after the year he had.
 

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So who, realistically, can Seattle get at the QB position that makes them better in 2025? They have made it clear they feel they can win now so who upgrades them this coming season?
Any number of rookies are capable of doing as good or better than 8-10 wins, as we saw last season, and it will save us $30 mil that we can spend on quality oline free agents. I trust our scouting department. In my opinion, another year of Gediocrity gets us nowhere, unless they just want him to mentor a rookie for a year, which makes sense.
 

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Any number of rookies are capable of doing as good or better than 8-10 wins, as we saw last season, and it will save us $30 mil that we can spend on quality oline free agents. I trust our scouting department. In my opinion, another year of Gediocrity gets us nowhere, unless they just want him to mentor a rookie for a year, which makes sense.
Could not disagree more with basically everything you said. Last years draft and this years can’t be compared. The #6 QB last year is projected better than this years 1st. We either overdraft a QB who isn’t ready to start day 1 or you’re trying to bank on a day 2 or 3 guy. For a team that has stated they are not rebuilding that sure sends a contradictory message. Good luck getting ownership to sign off on it. I don’t see a QB in this draft than can come in in 2025 and still get 8-10 wins. Neither do any people who do this for a living. Can they be wrong? Sure. But if you’re GM and you sell that to ownership and you’re wrong then go ahead and pack your bags. If it was past years class then an argument could be made. It’s not though. We will have enough to do what we want in FA. But the smart play for 2025 and beyond is extend Geno. Play him until someone is better then cut bait at low cost. It’s funny how people say they trust our scouting department but demand John gets fired based off players he’s picked because of the scouting department. So which is it?

Extending Geno and drafting someone for Geno to teach is what the we are trying to say. The only difference is you give the QB 1 year to learn with a high cap hit for Geno. The alternative is extend. That gives you multiple years to develop. Gives you cap to sign the players you need to and with the cap increasing every year it’s still a low dead money hit after you do move on.
 

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That's nice. I don't agree with your take either. That's why we're fans on a message board.

No need to extend a 35 yr old qb who has never even won a playoff game and is already regressing. That makes zero sense. Suffering through more years of this mediocrity is not in anyone's best interest. I realize our opinions don't mean diddly squat, but declining ticket sales due to lack of interest will get their attention if they stay on this course much longer. It's just about unwatchable at times.
 
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That's nice. I don't agree with your take either. That's why we're fans on a message board.

No need to extend a 35 yr old qb who has never even won a playoff game and is already regressing. That makes zero sense. Suffering through more years of this mediocrity is not in anyone's best interest. I realize our opinions don't mean diddly squat, but declining ticket sales due to lack of interest will get their attention if they stay on this course much longer. It's just about unwatchable at times.
We can agree to disagree. I am willing to give Geno enough benefit of the doubt to know last years offensive problems weren’t squarely on him. Good coaching and a better approach to fix the offensive line to see what he does. If he doesn’t do well we should have someone being developed and it’s no real loss to move on. But Geno wasn’t problem A or problem B last year.
 

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We can agree to disagree. I am willing to give Geno enough benefit of the doubt to know last years offensive problems weren’t squarely on him. Good coaching and a better approach to fix the offensive line to see what he does. If he doesn’t do well we should have someone being developed and it’s no real loss to move on. But Geno wasn’t problem A or problem B last year.
Turnover machine.
 

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