Five possible destinations for Geno Smith

[Seahawk_Dan]

I wouldn't be surprised if Geno is trade to the Raiders for like a 4th or something and then the team signs Carr (if he's cut). I honestly don't see the Saints keeping Carr because of the price tag, but Seattle bringing him in on a vet minimum 1 year or even a 2 year deal would make a lot of sense. He'd know Kubiak's system and at that point be infinitely cheaper than Geno.

"EW! GROSS! EW NO CARR HE SUCKS!" I hear you clacking away on your keyboards. Sure, maybe he's not as good as Geno is right now but at this point it's about not shelling out more money to your QB, not keeping that hefty cap hit with Geno, and no training him on a new system when you can possibly get someone who knows the system and more or less is gonna give you the same level of production.

 

[Titus Pullo]

What's the point of a 3 win season if you pissed off your players and players want to leave/not come here?

Geno is 34. Geno will do better with a better OC who can play complimentary football. I hate to admit it too but those are facts.

We can agree to disgaree but best case scenario for a business is to win now while build for the future. Both in the short term and long term.

We already did that for the last 3 years. Time to cut bait and move on.

 

[DarkVictory23]

I wouldn't be surprised if Geno is trade to the Raiders for like a 4th or something and then the team signs Carr (if he's cut). I honestly don't see the Saints keeping Carr because of the price tag, but Seattle bringing him in on a vet minimum 1 year or even a 2 year deal would make a lot of sense. He'd know Kubiak's system and at that point be infinitely cheaper than Geno.

"EW! GROSS! EW NO CARR HE SUCKS!" I hear you clacking away on your keyboards. Sure, maybe he's not as good as Geno is right now but at this point it's about not shelling out more money to your QB, not keeping that hefty cap hit with Geno, and no training him on a new system when you can possibly get someone who knows the system and more or less is gonna give you the same level of production.

I don't think Carr sucks and he also hasn't been that far below Geno in terms of overall production and in a few key metrics.

But I have two major issues with this proposal:

One, Carr doesn't suck but he's not as good as Geno. He's less accurate, has less arm talent, is less athletic, and--as much as everyone might be shocked to learn this--has worse overall decision making. Yes, he comes in knowing the system, but he also has a lower ceiling in that system. As a fan of watching the Seahawks win games, Geno gives them a better overall shot at that.

Two, it relies on Derek Carr--for some reason--accepting a vet minimum contract for a year or two, which only happens after the Saints cut him to save a grand total of... $1.5 million. His dead cap hit is $50 million, his cap hit if he's on the roster is $51.5 million. The Saints save almost nothing cutting Carr.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

I don't think Carr sucks and he also hasn't been that far below Geno in terms of overall production and in a few key metrics.

But I have two major issues with this proposal:

One, Carr doesn't suck but he's not as good as Geno. He's less accurate, has less arm talent, is less athletic, and--as much as everyone might be shocked to learn this--has worse overall decision making. Yes, he comes in knowing the system, but he also has a lower ceiling in that system. As a fan of watching the Seahawks win games, Geno gives them a better overall shot at that.

Two, it relies on Derek Carr--for some reason--accepting a vet minimum contract for a year or two, which only happens after the Saints cut him to save a grand total of... $1.5 million. His dead cap hit is $50 million, his cap hit if he's on the roster is $51.5 million. The Saints save almost nothing cutting Carr.

You’re right. I was looking at 2026 numbers where it looks like cutting him would save them much more. This year though, yeah, I doubt they cut him.

 

[Ozzy]

I wouldn't be surprised if Geno is trade to the Raiders for like a 4th or something and then the team signs Carr (if he's cut). I honestly don't see the Saints keeping Carr because of the price tag, but Seattle bringing him in on a vet minimum 1 year or even a 2 year deal would make a lot of sense. He'd know Kubiak's system and at that point be infinitely cheaper than Geno.

"EW! GROSS! EW NO CARR HE SUCKS!" I hear you clacking away on your keyboards. Sure, maybe he's not as good as Geno is right now but at this point it's about not shelling out more money to your QB, not keeping that hefty cap hit with Geno, and no training him on a new system when you can possibly get someone who knows the system and more or less is gonna give you the same level of production.

I’m not convinced he’s worse than Geno. They’re very similar actually.

 

[DarkVictory23]

You’re right. I was looking at 2026 numbers where it looks like cutting him would save them much more. This year though, yeah, I doubt they cut him.

The Saints ARE in cap hell, though (and not like our cap hell, as we have almost no dead money on the books next year, so while we are in the hole right now, we are a lot more flexible than it looks on paper... the Saints have the least cap space right now AND the most dead money).

So, if there is any offensive talent that he'd like to bring over from New Orleans that might help install his system, there is definitely an opportunity to try and snag some of those guys. (Saints have 3 different TEs who are either FAs or possibly getting cut, and outside of Barner, I don't think any of our TEs are guaranteed to be here next year).

 

[toffee]

I don't think Carr sucks and he also hasn't been that far below Geno in terms of overall production and in a few key metrics.

But I have two major issues with this proposal:

One, Carr doesn't suck but he's not as good as Geno. He's less accurate, has less arm talent, is less athletic, and--as much as everyone might be shocked to learn this--has worse overall decision making. Yes, he comes in knowing the system, but he also has a lower ceiling in that system. As a fan of watching the Seahawks win games, Geno gives them a better overall shot at that.

Two, it relies on Derek Carr--for some reason--accepting a vet minimum contract for a year or two, which only happens after the Saints cut him to save a grand total of... $1.5 million. His dead cap hit is $50 million, his cap hit if he's on the roster is $51.5 million. The Saints save almost nothing cutting Carr.

Wait, here on .NET, Carr is as good as Geno, someone will rebut your claim very soon.

 

[Double Tribble]

Looking at failures at the top of the draft is pointless, and no reason not to draft a qb at the top of the draft if possible. Again, the hit rate after the first 10-15 qb picks falls off a cliff. Yes there are failures. That is true for literally every draft position. But you have to at least try, and trust your scouts. If not, why bother having them? Fear of failure is the worst possible motivation not to do something. Sure, a busted high pick is bad. But so is staying in Purgatory for a decade.

 

[chris98251]

Looking at failures at the top of the draft is pointless, and no reason not to draft a qb at the top of the draft if possible. Again, the hit rate after the first 10-15 qb picks falls off a cliff. Yes there are failures. That is true for literally every draft position. But you have to at least try, and trust your scouts. If not, why bother having them? Fear of failure is the worst possible motivation not to do something. Sure, a busted high pick is bad. But so is staying in Purgatory for a decade.

Whine, Whine, Whine, most don't know purgatory here, Browns, Jets, Lions those fans have a claim, 10 - 7 purgatory? This fan base has went full Cowboys, 49ers Steeler mode if that's your measuring stick. In fact one better is to pick up a guy like Hass, Flynn, Geno, that has shown he has some credentials and start out walking fast if not running for a cheap chance to start contract.

 

[toffee]

GeNOs:

 

[Double Tribble]

Whine, Whine, Whine, most don't know purgatory here, Browns, Jets, Lions those fans have a claim, 10 - 7 purgatory? This fan base has went full Cowboys, 49ers Steeler mode if that's your measuring stick. In fact one better is to pick up a guy like Hass, Flynn, Geno, that has shown he has some credentials and start out walking fast if not running for a cheap chance to start contract.

Enjoy watching the Chiefs and Eagles in the SB then.

 

[chris98251]

Enjoy watching the Chiefs and Eagles in the SB then.

I will, why because if you won the Super Bowl every year it removes the special aspect, as stated spoiled fan base, the 3 times we were there it was the journey that was dramatic and getting there special, disappointment when we lost and elation when we won. I appreciate that journey, as stated there are teams that have not enjoyed that ever or for a very long time. Chiefs had a historic ride, Steelers like in the 70's and Patriot like recently, good for them they are finding a way. Why our wasted opportunity at a dynasty is a bitter pill, it was there.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Kind of comes down to one thing with the Super Bowl. Nobody really cares if any of us watch or not. And that's fine. Should be one hell of a game.

 

[12forlife]

Gotta get our QBOTF somehow. If we have to suck a year or 2 so be it, .500 sucks also. We need a good young talent. Geno will NEVER win us a SB. Out of the 14 playoff teams only 2 weren't 1st round picks. This probably isn't the draft to find our QBOTF, but next year and the year after have serious potential.

 

[toffee]

Gotta get our QBOTF somehow. If we have to suck a year or 2 so be it, .500 sucks also. We need a good young talent. Geno will NEVER win us a SB. Out of the 14 playoff teams only 2 weren't 1st round picks. This probably isn't the draft to find our QBOTF, but next year and the year after have serious potential.

two words: SAM HOWELL

 

[SuperSonic67]

Gotta get our QBOTF somehow. If we have to suck a year or 2 so be it, .500 sucks also. We need a good young talent. Geno will NEVER win us a SB. Out of the 14 playoff teams only 2 weren't 1st round picks. This probably isn't the draft to find our QBOTF, but next year and the year after have serious potential.

I’m no mathematician…but I’m pretty sure 10-7 isn’t .500. A first year HC with the amount of roster churns, as well as a very poor O-line to deal with, is pretty impressive. Especially with a retread 35 year old QB. Not trying to be a smart ass but the reality is that’s a pretty impressive add to the resume of MM first year in. I trust this dude

 

[12forlife]

two words: SAM HOWELL

Yeah he should have us in great position to draft our QB next year after we go 5-12.

 

[12forlife]

I’m no mathematician…but I’m pretty sure 10-7 isn’t .500. A first year HC with the amount of roster churns, as well as a very poor O-line to deal with, is pretty impressive. Especially with a retread 35 year old QB. Not trying to be a smart ass but the reality is that’s a pretty impressive add to the resume of MM first year in. I trust this dude

I believe in Mac also. Think he did a helluva job year 1. The O-Line is our biggest weakness, still Geno does nothing to elevate this team, and is pathetic in the red zone. Yes SA 10-7 is better then .500, yet we're sitting @ home smoking stooges. Honestly if even just a 1 yr deal give Fields a shot. Atleast when we got to the red zone it wouldn't be a guaranteed sack, int, fumble or air ball out out of our receivers reach.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well said ^

 

[Wsumatt1982]

I believe in Mac also. Think he did a helluva job year 1. The O-Line is our biggest weakness, still Geno does nothing to elevate this team, and is pathetic in the red zone. Yes SA 10-7 is better then .500, yet we're sitting @ home smoking stooges. Honestly if even just a 1 yr deal give Fields a shot. Atleast when we got to the red zone it wouldn't be a guaranteed sack, int, fumble or air ball out out of our receivers reach.

Geno isn't bad in the red zone. He was bad for one season in the red zone. I know, what have you done for me lately? I get it. But he doesn't have a track record of being bad in the red zone. Was this because he was trying to do to too much due to an ineffectiveness to run the ball? Very poor play calling? Very poor schemes? Poor line play? Defenses knew what we were doing and with a condensed field to work with windows weren't there.

I'm willing to believe it was a lot more of the offensive coordinator than on Geno (who, don't get me wrong, does deserve some blame but he was kind of forced to do too much) I'm not disputing we need a much younger QB to take over ASAP. Unless some miracle happens this likely isn't the year. We still need to draft one to see what we have for a couple years from now.