Geno injury

[Mistashoesta]

Hopefully it's not serious but if it is this team is done.

 

[Rat]

Geno wasn't going to lead us anywhere either. Had another one of his vintage red zone series where he followed up a near turnover with an actual turnover. Today should have given us concern that "The Death Zone" won't be able to bail him out against good teams.

 

[sutz]

At first I thought hyperextension, but it was bent forward with his body going backward so I'm thinking patellar tendon strain.

We'll see after he gets it scanned, I'm sure.

 

[Natethegreat]

Geno wasn't going to lead us anywhere either. Had another one of his vintage red zone series where he followed up a near turnover with an actual turnover. Today should have given us concern that "The Death Zone" won't be able to bail him out against good teams.

Maybe so but he is still a lot better than Howell.

 

[Hollandhawk]

Maybe so but he is still a lot better than Howell.

If Geno isn't the answer anyways, just start Howell the rest of the year and see what happens. And if he doesn't show signs of improvement we need to start over at QB. Or we can chance limping into the playoffs with Geno, get wrecked, and do the same shit again next year.

 

[nwHawk]

I think the question should be: Is 9-8… good enough? That’s where Hawks have been. Not totally blaming Geno, but QB and OC are targets that are holding this team back.

 

[nwHawk]

I have a feeling he’ll start next week.

 

[jammerhawk]

Geno injury?
Question, have you noticed that Geno freaks out when he gets hit often and any injury is for him a huge thing? For him the hits freak him out and he becomes head case Gee-No. I truly hope for him he’s not hurt seriously. For the team I hope he’s not hurt seriously as as our #2 is for sure not ready to be a #1.

For Geno he needs a clean pocket but even then he has no legit internal clock that tells him when to get rid of the ball.

OTOH it I should be undisputed he has a great arm and he can be elite occasionally, and throws a great long ball but he is a head case in the redzone. I haven’t checked but he has to have one of the worst redzone turnover rates in the NFL which to me are a symptom of him being freaked out, spazzed out, by the situation. I truly believe he could be a great QB but he has trouble at times raising his game to become a top level QB. The trouble is in his head and not with his physical ability.

The upcoming game against Minnie will undoubtedly be a tough game. They are better team than the Packers with a ferocious pass rush. Don’t know yet if Geno reverts to form and he either will hide behind his ‘injury‘ and he won’t show up to be revealed again or if he will show up and be the elite QB we see occasionally. Truly he didn’t play well tonight but then again neither did the rest of the team with a few rare exceptions. I don’t know how legitimately injured he is but he once again revealed himself again tonight, Geno the head case.

For him I genuinely hope this isn’t a serious injury but I do know he could be special if he could get his head straight. Just don’t know if that will ever happen to allow his real talent to be fully revealed he has been doing this for a long time. Not sure the team will stick with him long enough for that to happen.

By nature I prefer to be a positive person but truly there is something missing with this player.and it isn’t his physical skill. I really would love to be proved wrong as heck. His incredible inconsistency is hard to watch without comment.

Truly hope he isn’t seriously hurt.

 

[Chuckwow]

Geno = Ninja mind-master. Upped his stock by allowing Howell to take over. If we gave Washington a 5th for Howell, I'd give a 1/3rd to send him back. Tough spot for the kid but to even the average QB evaluater, it's pretty clear he just doesn't have it. I kept wondering why we weren't getting a look at him...I wonder no longer.

Next.

 

[SonicHawk]

Geno injury?
Question, have you noticed that Geno freaks out when he gets hit often and any injury is for him a huge thing? For him the hits freak him out and he becomes head case Gee-No. I truly hope for him he’s not hurt seriously. For the team I hope he’s not hurt seriously as as our #2 is for sure not ready to be a #1.

For Geno he needs a clean pocket but even then he has no legit internal clock that tells him when to get rid of the ball.

OTOH it I should be undisputed he has a great arm and he can be elite occasionally, and throws a great long ball but he is a head case in the redzone. I haven’t checked but he has to have one of the worst redzone turnover rates in the NFL which to me are a symptom of him being freaked out, spazzed out by the situation. I truly believe he could be a great QB but he has trouble at times raising his game to become a top level QB. The trouble is in his head and not with his ability.

The upcoming game against Minnie will undoubtedly be a tough game. They are better team than the Packers with a ferocious pass rush. ADon’t know yet if Geno reverts to form and he either will hide behind his ‘injury‘ and he won’t show up to be revealed again or if he will show up and be the elite QB we see occasionally. Truly he didn’t play well tonight but then again neither did the rest of the team with a few rare exceptions. I don’t know how legitimately injured he is but he once again revealed himself again tonight, Geno the head case.

For him I genuinely hope this isn’t a serious injury but I do know he could be special if he could get his head straight. Just don’t know if that will ever happen to allow his real talent to be fully revealed. Not sure the team will stick with him long enough for that to happen.

By nature I prefer to be a positive person but truly there is something missing with this player.and it isn’t his physical skill. I really would love to be proved wrong as heck. his incredible inconsistency is hard to watch without comment.

Truly hope he isn’t seriously hurt.

The hell is this.

 

[Jegpeg]

I think the question should be: Is 9-8… good enough? That’s where Hawks have been. Not totally blaming Geno, but QB and OC are targets that are holding this team back.

The problem is quality OCs and QBs are not eavy to get.
Geno is roughly the 15th best QB in the world, the majority of eople on this board were pushing for Pete and his coaching staff to go for at least 5 years and were generally delighted at the choice of MM and Grubb but alas the team is no better.

I haven't seen Howell in training I don't know if he has developed or in developing into a starting QB (though his snaps against the Packers doesn't look good), just about everyone though us starting Geno after RW3 left was an attempt to get the No1 overall pick in a strong draft class for QBs.

Yes I want the team to improve but the Giants showed that any team that makes the playoffs has a chance of winning the SB. Our choices for a Geno Replacement are:

1. Get who we think is the best available in the draft, the majority of these don't work out so we will be probably drafting every year until we find one and consistently getting around 5 wins a season. The Jets, Browns and Broncos have been doing this (the Bronco's might finally have found a QB that can get them in the playoffs and may or may not be able to challenge in a couple of years the Jets and Browns gave up for approach 3)
2. Find one in free agency, there is a reason QBs enter free agency, they are rarely better than Geno and if they are they are demanding a salary that their previous team are unwilling to cap to get one of these. This season the cupboard is particularly bare, The Vikings may let Darnold go if he wants more than $30-$35m p.a. but he has been very similar 2022 Geno and there is no guaranteed he will not revert to mean a bit r not adapt to our play style. Next FA QB is probably Winston!
3. Trade the farm to get a quality QB, these are rarely good value and there is usually a reason the team is selling, RW3, Rodgers and Watson are the obvious recent examples.

Maybe 9-8 with the hope of a slight improvement to 10-7 or 11-6 is good enough. The hope of a surprise play-off run is possibly higher than the chance of finding the next Mahomes in the draft and it avoids the anguish of having a truly terrible team.

Of course Geno wont last forever so we need to be looking for a developmental QB as a replacement whether that is Howell (now looking unlikely) or a draft pick. Many of the best QBs spent a year or two as back-up to develop their game (e.g. Brady and Mahomes)

 

[Vesuve]

If Geno isn't the answer anyways, just start Howell the rest of the year and see what happens. And if he doesn't show signs of improvement we need to start over at QB. Or we can chance limping into the playoffs with Geno, get wrecked, and do the same shit again next year.

I'd like to see Howell play.

 

[pittpnthrs]

If Geno isn't the answer anyways, just start Howell the rest of the year and see what happens. And if he doesn't show signs of improvement we need to start over at QB. Or we can chance limping into the playoffs with Geno, get wrecked, and do the same shit again next year.

Pretty much. The QB position needs addressed sooner than later. It was always going to take a few seasons anyways though.

 

[pittpnthrs]

The problem is quality OCs and QBs are not eavy to get.
Geno is roughly the 15th best QB in the world, the majority of eople on this board were pushing for Pete and his coaching staff to go for at least 5 years and were generally delighted at the choice of MM and Grubb but alas the team is no better.

I haven't seen Howell in training I don't know if he has developed or in developing into a starting QB (though his snaps against the Packers doesn't look good), just about everyone though us starting Geno after RW3 left was an attempt to get the No1 overall pick in a strong draft class for QBs.

Yes I want the team to improve but the Giants showed that any team that makes the playoffs has a chance of winning the SB. Our choices for a Geno Replacement are:

1. Get who we think is the best available in the draft, the majority of these don't work out so we will be probably drafting every year until we find one and consistently getting around 5 wins a season. The Jets, Browns and Broncos have been doing this (the Bronco's might finally have found a QB that can get them in the playoffs and may or may not be able to challenge in a couple of years the Jets and Browns gave up for approach 3)
2. Find one in free agency, there is a reason QBs enter free agency, they are rarely better than Geno and if they are they are demanding a salary that their previous team are unwilling to cap to get one of these. This season the cupboard is particularly bare, The Vikings may let Darnold go if he wants more than $30-$35m p.a. but he has been very similar 2022 Geno and there is no guaranteed he will not revert to mean a bit r not adapt to our play style. Next FA QB is probably Winston!
3. Trade the farm to get a quality QB, these are rarely good value and there is usually a reason the team is selling, RW3, Rodgers and Watson are the obvious recent examples.

Maybe 9-8 with the hope of a slight improvement to 10-7 or 11-6 is good enough. The hope of a surprise play-off run is possibly higher than the chance of finding the next Mahomes in the draft and it avoids the anguish of having a truly terrible team.

Of course Geno wont last forever so we need to be looking for a developmental QB as a replacement whether that is Howell (now looking unlikely) or a draft pick. Many of the best QBs spent a year or two as back-up to develop their game (e.g. Brady and Mahomes)

The team is already better despite the record.

 

[Wolfiegrrl]

1.a: I hate seeing anyone get injured. I do hope that Geno is going to be okay. I didn't watch the injury live. However, after seeing the replays of it, let us hope he's not lost to an ACL/PCL tear. The way he was hit from behind with his foot planted, that looks like his lower leg was forced forward while the rest of his body was trying to slow down.

1.b: We need to be sending good vibes to Oluwatimi as well. Losing our starting center to a knee injury really screwed the already underperforming OL.

2.: Sam Howell didn't look prepared to fill in for Geno. That's on the OC. The game looked way to big for the guy who should have been prepared to step in and take over. I'm not sure if Grubbs put all his eggs in Geno's basket or what, but Howell's play wasn't what anyone wanted to see from our back up.

3.: My hope for the rest of the year would be to end decently enough to get a middle round pick. Now whether that is 8-9 or 9-8 we'll have to see.

4.: I do think this team is better off this year than last year. I remind myself after losses like this that we are in year 1 of a new era. All of these coaches are first time coaches at their positions. Everyone has to learn somehow. I see progress with the defense. I'd like to see more progress with the offense, but that won't happen until we solidify our OL.

5.: I'm going to practice my relaxation and breathing techniques for the rest of the season. My blood pressure's been too high watching football this year.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Sam Howell looked barely ready to play some Xbox. No way we can depend on that from our backup.

 

[olyfan63]

Sam Howell looked barely ready to play some Xbox. No way we can depend on that from our backup.

Howell was way less ready than Geno to deal with the crap O-Line play and lack of time to throw.
Not saying Howell will do great, just that he needs a realistic chance with reasonable time to throw.

 

[Ozzy]

Howell was terrible but I watched enough from last year to know he has talent. I think a game plan built around him and a week knowing he’s the starter I think would give us a better idea.

Geno threw two balls that should’ve been picked in the end zone. No clue what he’s thinking when he gets down in that area.

I don’t have any faith that Howell is better than Geno but if he has to go for a couple weeks curious to see how he does

 

[hawker84]

I think the question should be: Is 9-8… good enough? That’s where Hawks have been. Not totally blaming Geno, but QB and OC are targets that are holding this team back.

I disagree, our trenches is whats holding this team back. All this talent at the skill positions and we can't score? You can bring in the latest and greatest thing at QB put him behind this OLine, and guarentee you'll get the same thing.

 

[Appyhawk]

Howell was terrible but I watched enough from last year to know he has talent. I think a game plan built around him and a week knowing he’s the starter I think would give us a better idea.

Geno threw two balls that should’ve been picked in the end zone. No clue what he’s thinking when he gets down in that area.

I don’t have any faith that Howell is better than Geno but if he has to go for a couple weeks curious to see how he does

From what I saw of Geno's injury play I would guess we very well may see what else Howell has in store for us. I sure hope he can get enough reps to eliminate that deer in the headlights fear that overwhelmed him last night. I previously expected his experience in Washington would have prepared him for that but it obviously did not. His sense of timing was non existent. Despite all that I suspect he might be at least as good in the red zone as what we have been enduring.