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Hard to move around when the pocket is literally crumbling around you. The same was said about RW, he seems to be doing just fine now. Sorry not buying it, any QB would be a sitting duck behind this OLine.
Russ did not sit still. He was play action and rolling, but I also think Russ was not good at reading the rush. I think Matt stafford or Patrick or Allen Jackson or Joe would have half the sacks at least
 

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Comebacks against crap teams and our record was still pedestrian… misleading stat
Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ridder are really good in that stat too. Pickett's two seasons as a starter, he had seven, which was a tie for third with Geno, behind Josh Allen and Kirk Cousins.

I looked this up recently when there was a discussion, and I want to say the four QBs who made their conference championship games last year had like five combined, and I believe three of those were Goff.
 

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Tired of beating this drum, but game winning drives, and come back wins, are not marks of good teams or quarterbacks.

Good teams and quarterbacks don’t play from behind enough for this stat to pop up. Even in their one score games, more often than not, they are just protecting a lead, and letting the other team burn clock.
 

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Tired of beating this drum, but game winning drives, and come back wins, are not marks of good teams or quarterbacks.

Good teams and quarterbacks don’t play from behind enough for this stat to pop up. Even in their one score games, more often than not, they are just protecting a lead, and letting the other team burn clock.
Right. Come from behind games in the playoffs or to take the division, not to get back to .500
 

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Tired of beating this drum, but game winning drives, and come back wins, are not marks of good teams or quarterbacks.

Good teams and quarterbacks don’t play from behind enough for this stat to pop up. Even in their one score games, more often than not, they are just protecting a lead, and letting the other team burn clock.
Tom Brady had 46 comeback victories in the 4th quarter (all time career leader). Patrick Mahomes has had 5 this year. Jared Goff has 4 this year.

Maybe you should beat a different drum.
 

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Russ did not sit still. He was play action and rolling, but I also think Russ was not good at reading the rush. I think Matt stafford or Patrick or Allen Jackson or Joe would have half the sacks at least
Ya that's why he lead the NFL in sacks multiple years. Do you actually read the crap you type?
 

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Tom Brady had 46 comeback victories in the 4th quarter (all time career leader). Patrick Mahomes has had 5 this year. Jared Goff has 4 this year.

Maybe you should beat a different drum.
Ok so you got two of the greatest to ever play, and Tom Brady played longer than America has been a nation. But look at the context of those games, the opponent, and the scenarios, how many were against great teams with the season on the line, or the playoffs on the line. Patrick has comebacks because every team is bringing their best to knock off the champ. He doesn’t have comebacks that help them scrape back to .500, he has comebacks to demoralize the league as to how they can stay friggin undefeated. So I’m still liking my little drum
 

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Ya that's why he lead the NFL in sacks multiple years. Do you actually read the crap you type?
Yes I read it and proof read it. No where did I talk about Russ not getting sacked. I was merely pointing out how well he moved to extend plays, do you remember that? Maybe try not putting words on my pages… maybe try reading my crap that you seam to be enjoying a little more criticality and you will see I slightly acknowledged Russ failure to avoid sacks by pointing out his inability to excel at reading the rush, but that might have been hard for you to see cause it was inferred between the lines….
 

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Ok so you got two of the greatest to ever play, and Tom Brady played longer than America has been a nation. But look at the context of those games, the opponent, and the scenarios, how many were against great teams with the season on the line, or the playoffs on the line. Patrick has comebacks because every team is bringing their best to knock off the champ. He doesn’t have comebacks that help them scrape back to .500, he has comebacks to demoralize the league as to how they can stay friggin undefeated. So I’m still like my little drum
I like drums too, especially the little ones.
 

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You got the annoying part right. :LOL:

Somebody looking to find fault with the team or certain players will find last night's game to be a fount of information. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Mahomes leads the NFL in game-winning drives with seven this year, but that's largely a product of the odd season the Chiefs are having. He had just 16 for his career coming into this season, including just one last year when his team won the Super Bowl.

GWDs are good in the respect that it's nice to know your QB can deliver in that situation, but they're misleading as a counting stat. It's similar to how the best corners arent always racking up INTs and pass deflections because nobody is throwing at them.
 

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I don’t think it’s new damage though, it’s who he is. His poor decision making only occurs when the moment is big. He does fine in empty yardage situations
Does that include his 12-yard scramble in Santa clara?
 

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Hard to move around when the pocket is literally crumbling around you. The same was said about RW,
Wait... did somebody actually type this on purpose, hit "post reply", and then not delete it in the past several hours?
 

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Wait... did somebody actually type this on purpose, hit "post reply", and then not delete it in the past several hours?
And? Didn't delete it bit i did type it and hit post reply. What's your point?
 

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Yes I read it and proof read it. No where did I talk about Russ not getting sacked. I was merely pointing out how well he moved to extend plays, do you remember that? Maybe try not putting words on my pages… maybe try reading my crap that you seam to be enjoying a little more criticality and you will see I slightly acknowledged Russ failure to avoid sacks by pointing out his inability to excel at reading the rush, but that might have been hard for you to see cause it was inferred between the lines….
Yes Wilson could scramble, he also took more sacks than most other qbs for years. Do you remember that? Geno can also scramble and is faster than Wilson. You wanting to hate on geno for his red zone woes is understandable, but to say he's a statue and qbs like Goff or stafford move better in the pocket is just plain silly.
 
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It's a laughably uninformed comment. If somebody told me they saw someone say that with no other context, I would guess it was written on a Niners board by a 12-year-old who just started watching football last year. On a Seahawks board by someone with "hawk" in their name is crazy.

Suggesting that Russ was known as a statue in the pocket is like if, six years ago, someone had criticized Germain Ifedi for his holding penalties, and someone else had chimed in with "the same was said about Walter Jones".

How do you think Russ was able to be such a prolific passer at his height? Using his legs to extend plays was probably his biggest strength.
 

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It's a laughably uninformed comment. If somebody told me they saw someone say that with no other context, I would guess it was written on a Niners board by a 12-year-old who just started watching football last year. On a Seahawks board by someone with "hawk" in their name is crazy.

Suggesting that Russ was known as a statue in the pocket is like if, six years ago, someone had criticized Germain Ifedi for his holding penalties, and someone else had chimed in with "the same was said about Walter Jones".

How do you think Russ was able to be such a prolific passer at his height? Using his legs to extend plays was probably his biggest strength.
Reading comprehension is tough for some people, I get it. Please show me the post where I said Wilson was a statue. I'll wait. I never said russ was a statue why? Because I'm not an idiot. I said he may be mobile but he still was among the league leaders in sacks every year. Again, If you were to actually read my post, I said some people on here claimed he had no pocket presence just like they claim about Geno. I went on to further say if that's the case why is russ doing just fine in Pitrsburgh now? To say either of them are a statue in the pocket is silly and incorrect..
 
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