Macdonald instant post game presser

[Ozzy]

Analytics have to be balanced with the reality of the situation. You can't hide behind analytics just because "the chart says" and yet every coach does this now.

They lost because of all you mentioned AND because their head coach made a poor decision.

They went down and scored a touchdown they still lose with a field goal. I see your guys side of the argument I just don’t agree. It’s reasonable though for sure

 

[keasley45]

I will reiterate something I said in a different thread here: We are better than our record. The way our defense showed up today just solidified that in my mind.

We have one utterly abysmal failure of an offensive line--but we have proven we can overcome that with the players we have before. Ernest Jones had this defense looking like a different unit this game. Our special teams actually balled out.

Where we are weakest (outside of OL) is our coaching staff. And is it shocking for a first year HC/OC/DC to have problems? No, it's not. I get it, 100%.

But just because I understand it doesn't mean it's not very, very frustrating. And there is nothing more easy to fix than a head coach to just decide he's going to make decisions to stop trying to get the win the way he wants and instead just help his team be in easier situations.

Agree 1000x.

The team has the talent. Had Geno not made the mistakes he madex we win in regulation. But even WITH those mistakes a nd a porous O line we were in position to vo agead in OT. The scoreboard was reset in a game where we FINALLY overcame our self inflicted mistakes... and then we choose to not just take the kead in OT???

Mac is in over his head. Whether because he doesnt have the support he needs or just is showing a poor time to not show up as a leader... he needs to step into this moment, be accountable, send whatever message to the team he needs to send and learn from this. Not just the game, but take an HONEST accounting of where he and his staff are.

 

[keasley45]

Two red zone picks is almost unheard of. He should’ve had 4 picks today but one was dropped

He also had 5 drops and a 43 yard completion called back on a holding.

And its not as though some other facet of the offense scored for us because he couldnt. Geno was the one throwing those 3 passes for TDs and tossed the balls that led us down to tie the game and potentially win in OT.

He gave up the lead and opportunities for a larger lead ourselves... and he was also responsible for why we were able to tie and potentially win in the end.

 

[keasley45]

They went down and scored a touchdown they still lose with a field goal. I see your guys side of the argument I just don’t agree. It’s reasonable though for sure

If they score a FG, the D for sure plays with more momentum and their offense, with more pressure. You cant just say 'they scored anyway '.

And if you are trying to move blame away from Mac... the Rams scored a TD because he called a friggn cover zero.

He JUST gave a chance to lead in OT away by going for it on 4th. And then what does he do? He goes all in on a cover zero and GIVES Stafford and Mcvay one on one coverage with zero safety help.

The D was stopping the run all game.

Pretty stupid decision for a 'genius'.

Two of them.

 

[Ozzy]

He also had 5 drops and a 43 yard completion called back on a holding.

And its not as though some other facet of the offense scored for us because he couldnt. Geno was the one throwing those 3 passes for TDs and tossed the balls that led us down to tie the game and potentially win in OT.

He gave up the lead and opportunities for a larger lead ourselves... and he was also responsible for why we were able to tie and potentially win in the end.

He was bad today man. There isn’t any way around it. I know you like him, and that’s not a bad thing(!) but he was really bad today. He had 5 turnovers including two in the red zone. It’s noble that you’re trying to soften it a little bit by seeing the positive but he was terrible today and he would tell you the same thing.

 

[Appyhawk]

They said on the broadcast it was his first in that many tries
They could have been wrong of course, but it was stated

They also said the Seattle D has produced more 3 and outs than anyone else in the league and that was hard for me to fathom.

 

[keasley45]

Another dumb decision by Mike? Losing a TO on a 'PC' type challenge of the sideline catch. Did i miss something or was it plain as day that it was a catch. The refs reviewed in in about 30 seconds after the play themselves and he still challenged.

Not that that affected the outcome. Dude just seems like the pressure is pusbing hin to do dumb stuff.

 

[soxhawk]

We should've sold high on Riq

 

[seabowl]

We should've sold high on Riq

When he was a rookie?

 

[DarkVictory23]

I basically train all the new drivers at my work. I have them sit in the passenger seat for two days just to watch, how we angle things. Then I tell them “it’s yours, I won’t let you crash, but I’ll give you directions and how to do something if I see it going wrong. Ask me any question if you’re confused or uncomfortable. I’ll take over if you’re nervous, until you don’t feel that way anymore.” I never blame them. I damn near hit a steal garbage can and a brick wall my first day 20 years ago. I had a good coach. “Let’s pull forward and try again.”

See, I like this analogy. Right now, we've got a team that's playing with a new offense and new defense from last year. We've got HC, OC, and DC in their roles at the NFL level for the first time. They are all brand new.

Every decision Macdonald makes should be about putting his team in the easiest, simplest situation possible.

We can't win every game. That's not possible. But we can protect our team from crashing. And that's what our team needs right now.

 

[onanygivensunday]

O-line is bottom of the barrel. What'd ya expect?

A: What happened today.

Pathetic

 

[keasley45]

He was bad today man. There isn’t any way around it. I know you like him, and that’s not a bad thing(!) but he was really bad today. He had 5 turnovers including two in the red zone. It’s noble that you’re trying to soften it a little bit by seeing the positive but he was terrible today and he would tell you the same thing.

Im not softening anything. I said he threw the game away. Had he notx we woukdnt have had to tie it.

But he DID tie it.

At that point, its zero zero. Whatever successes or mistakes come after that live on their own and determine the outcome.

Its not like we lost the toss and then straight up lost the game.

We won the toss, drove the field, and chose to not just take 3.

Call Geno bad all you want (and you wont hear me disagree that he had a bad game) but for Mike to make the calls he did in OT as our HC? THAT DIRECTLY cost us the game. And his accounting of it in the presser? He didnt make it any better.

 

[slateman77]

BS.

He shoukd have kicked the damn FG.best way to get momentum is to comeback and win a game in OT that you should have lost.

Kick the FG and let your D play free knowing they can give up 3 and still be in it.

Stipidest decision i can recall in a long long time. And Pete made his share of dumb ones. Including losing a game to the Rams because he called a TO just before they were about to kick a FG to close a lead we had. The TO gave McVay a chance to rethink the decision, he puts his offense back on the field and they score a TD after converting on 4th, after which we lost the game.

 

[hedgehawk]

See, I like this analogy. Right now, we've got a team that's playing with a new offense and new defense from last year. We've got HC, OC, and DC in their roles at the NFL level for the first time. They are all brand new.

Every decision Macdonald makes should be about putting his team in the easiest, simplest situation possible.

We can't win every game. That's not possible. But we can protect our team from crashing. And that's what our team needs right now.

I appreciate that. It seemed kind of appropriate after today’s game. Protect your guys from crashing, where they lose the confidence of doing it.

 

[slateman77]

BS.

He shoukd have kicked the damn FG.best way to get momentum is to comeback and win a game in OT that you should have lost.

Kick the FG and let your D play free knowing they can give up 3 and still be in it.

Stipidest decision i can recall in a long long time. And Pete made his share of dumb ones. Including losing a game to the Rams because he called a TO just before they were about to kick a FG to close a lead we had. The TO gave McVay a chance to rethink the decision, he puts his offense back on the field and they score a TD after converting on 4th, after which we lost the game.

But you're assuming Myers would make the kick. He's actually the reason we lost. Had he made the simple extra point we win.!! And I certainly wouldn't bet sh#t on anything inside of 50 yards.

 

[Ozzy]

But you're assuming Myers would make the kick. He's actually the reason we lost. Had he made the simple extra point we win.!! And I certainly wouldn't bet sh#t on anything inside of 50 yards.

That’s where I’m at. The kicking game already had a miss and have dealt with blocks this year. I’m not confident he makes that kick and even if he does it still doesn’t guarantee a win. I do understand Keasely’s thought process and it’s a valid one I just still don’t agree with it

 

[rjdriver]

Gotta agree with this. You already know you don’t have a powerhouse of a line…kick the damn ball

You also have Riq at DB so I’m not sure they don’t score regardless. The field position would have been close to the same.

They had two downs to get 1 yard. The stutter step on 3rd by Kenny was awful. Two Charb runs up the middle or at least a play action to a red hot JSN would have got the job done. That was both awful play calling and awful execution.

 

[renofox]

I'd bet Grubb was 100% a JS hire, and MM is laying the groundwork to push to change him out for MM's pick this off-season.

 

[hawks85]

He’s pissed.

Sound like he’s pissed at Grubb….

Says you gotta get half a yard on two tries…..

Everything on the table Mac says…..

Heads gonna roll this off season, I’m guessing….

I've said this a thousand times and people think I'm crazy. Yes we have O-line issues etc...but this offense is not it with Grubb. That dude is used to passing the ball 50 times a game and you can't do that in the NFL, I said if we start to like like garbage it's gonna be the offense and Grubb. The defense is gonna be fine, I said that as well. Grubb is a college coach. You can't tell me he doesn't remind you of Steve Spurrier. Remember that guy from 20 years age and pathetic run n gun offense that failed miserably in the NFL. That's who Grubb reminds me of. Grubb is gone after the season.

 

[renofox]

I've said this a thousand times and people think I'm crazy. Yes we have O-line issues etc...but this offense is not it with Grubb. That dude is used to passing the ball 50 times a game and you can't do that in the NFL, I said if we start to like like garbage it's gonna be the offense and Grubb. The defense is gonna be fine, I said that as well. Grubb is a college coach. You can't tell me he doesn't remind you of Steve Spurrier. Remember that guy from 20 years age and pathetic run n gun offense that failed miserably in the NFL. That's who Grubb reminds me of. Grubb is gone after the season.

This is what I'm seeing. I had hoped he would adapt to the NFL, but his whole game aura still screams college.