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He played well, but one td pass isn't going to get it done in the post season. That is pretty much his m.o., and my biggest knock against him. Otherwise, yes, he came through. Pretty much the same as last year, except now we have a better defense.
I'm trying to figure out do you actually watch the games or just read Geno's stat line after the game? But, sure let's break everything wrong here...

1) Yes, 1 TD pass can and does get it done in the playoffs all the time. The Chiefs won the AFCCG with only 1 TD pass last year. The Niners won the NFCCG with only 1 TD pass. In fact, 5 different games did the winning QB in last year's playoffs only throw 1 TD.

2) No, that is not pretty much his 'M.O.' In 2022, he was top 4 in TD passes per game. Last year, he was slightly below average in TD passes per game. How did you decide which season represents his M.O., I wonder? (Or, you could just say he's actually 'above average' at throwing TDs as the Seahawks starter, since that would consider both of his seasons but you know... that would be honest.)

3) This isn't even a thing. This isn't how offenses work. Teams don't play games to get QBs extra TD passes.
 
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I'm trying to figure out do you actually watch the games or just read Geno's stat line after the game? But, sure let's break everything wrong here...

1) Yes, 1 TD pass can and does get it done in the playoffs all the time. The Chiefs won the AFCCG with only 1 TD pass last year. The Niners won the NFCCG with only 1 TD pass. In fact, 5 different games did the winning QB in last year's playoffs only throw 1 TD.

2) No, that is not pretty much his 'M.O.' In 2022, he was top 4 in TD passes per game. Last year, he was slightly below average in TD passes per game. How did you decide which season represents his M.O., he asked ? (Or, you could just say he's actually 'above average' at throwing TDs as the Seahawks starter, since that would consider both of his seasons but you know... that would be honest.)

3) This isn't even a thing! This isn't how offenses work! Teams don't play games to get QBs extra TD passes.
How long have you been watching football? You act like qb's don't score more than 1-2 td's in big games. If we play against a qb who goes off for 4-5 td's, do you seriously think Geno can keep pace? He's never scored more than three td's in a game, and that rarely.

Obviously, he's good, and can win games. But can he win a high scoring shootout in a playoff game when it comes to that? Because it will. Come on, stop pretending like this version of football is all that has ever existed.
 

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He played well, but one td pass isn't going to get it done in the post season. That is pretty much his m.o., and my biggest knock against him. Otherwise, yes, he came through. Pretty much the same as last year, except now we have a better defense.
 

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He and Grubb really seem to be in synch. Geno seems to be running those at the line calls really well
 

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Fant is a very good receiving TE, but has been dinged up. That drop was brutal though.
Which one?

The defense deserves a lot of credit for the stop at the end of regulation. The Pats could have driven and won it.
 

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How long have you been watching football? You act like qb's don't score more than 1-2 td's in big games. If we play against a qb who goes off for 4-5 td's, do you seriously think Geno can keep pace? He's never scored more than three td's in a game, and that rarely.

Obviously, he's good, and can win games. But can he win a high scoring shootout in a playoff game when it comes to that? Because it will. Come on, stop pretending like this version of football is all that has ever existed.

Why don't we let him get into an experience like that and fail before automatically assuming he can't do it

He's been steadily improving. Let's see how it plays out
 

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How long have you been watching football? You act like qb's don't score more than 1-2 td's in big games. If we play against a qb who goes off for 4-5 td's, do you seriously think Geno can keep pace? He's never scored more than three td's in a game, and that rarely.

Obviously, he's good, and can win games. But can he win a high scoring shootout in a playoff game when it comes to that? Because it will. Come on, stop pretending like this version of football is all that has ever existed.
What version of football are you talking about? What even are you talking about?

QBs DON'T usually score more than 1-2 TDs in big games. In the playoffs the last 2 years, teams averaged 1.7 TD passes a game. (Or, you know 1-2).

And if we play against a QB who goes off for 4-5 TDs and my first thought--like yours will inevitably be--is to criticize Geno and not the defense that just let a team drop 35 points on them, I'd realize that I'm a hater, and I'd step back and take some time for self-reflection.

And, yes, Geno can win a high scoring shootout. As the Seahawks starter, Geno has played in 6 games where the opposing QB threw for 3 TDs or more and he won 3 of them.

This is Geno's average stat line in the 3 he lost:

Geno Smith25/38305 Yards2.3 TDs1 INT.3 Rush TDs100.8 RTG68.7 QBR

You notice how that looks like a really good stat line? That's because it's a really good stat line. And that's his numbers in the shootouts he LOST. Geno keeps up fine in shootouts since he's been here. The rest of our team hasn't.
 
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How long have you been watching football? You act like qb's don't score more than 1-2 td's in big games. If we play against a qb who goes off for 4-5 td's, do you seriously think Geno can keep pace? He's never scored more than three td's in a game, and that rarely.

Obviously, he's good, and can win games. But can he win a high scoring shootout in a playoff game when it comes to that? Because it will. Come on, stop pretending like this version of football is all that has ever existed.

Seriously? There have been games in the last 2 years when Geno was the offense. Amd passed for multiple TDs.

His first year, the criticism was thay he coukdnt bring thr team back from a deficit... wasnt clutch.

Last year he sets the NFL record for 4th qtr comebacks.

Hes thrown for 3 TDs in a game a few times. Now the standard is that he needs to throw for 4 or 5??

The dude has led the league in completion of difficult passes.

Hes led the league in completion percentage

Hes lef the league in 4th qtr comebacks.

Now he's not yet the guy because he's not throwing 4 TDs a game?

What makes you think he cant throw 4 in a game? He tossed 3 easily against the cowboys last year.

Him not throwing multiple TDs isnt a failure you can attribute to him alone. When teams dont have to respect your running game AND your O Line cant pass protect, td passes can be hard to come by. Both those things have been factors since hes been here, save for the first half of '22.

I could see it if the dude wasnt playing thr position about as efficiently, accurately and intelligently as he is. When you do ehat he's doing, the TDs will come assuming the other facets of the offense dont entirely fail. And when he does, the bar will be moved again... to God knows what... difficulty of TD throws?
 

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And for the record, Mr Unlimited is in his 13th year and has thrown 4 tds in a game only 17 TDs. And 7 of those occassions cane during his 'cooking years'.

During our superbowl runs, he did it once..

When the QB you have sets the NFL record for comebacks in the 4th qtr while the rest of your team sucked, the measure of how good he is shouldnt be how many TDs he threw to do it
 

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So...are we ready to give Geno an extension?
I say 'no', because it's still early in the year and you don't know what this 'window' is yet for the Seahawks. We already see some signs that this O-Line might need a lot of work. If things keep trending positively and we seem to be 'ahead of schedule' with this squad and want to hold it together for 2-3 seasons?

Then, yeah, but we won't know that for a while yet.

Of course, I'm also not an NFL front office exec, so what do I know?
 

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Young Russell Wilson would like to have a word.

Young Russell Wilson's words wouldn't be applicable, given how he sucked donkey balls (relatively) any time he was simultaneously faced with lacking defense and lacking rushing support and was only a playoff threat when given both of those things.
 

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The hilarious part is that since he only threw 1 touchdown in the game, a select few will discount it as a mediocre performance and use it as an example as to why he's not a viable starter.

Hope everyone is starting to see through that garbage by now.

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He played well, but one td pass isn't going to get it done in the post season. That is pretty much his m.o., and my biggest knock against him. Otherwise, yes, he came through. Pretty much the same as last year, except now we have a better defense.
 

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