Trey Lance demoted to 3rd string after draft

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Dude, Cohn is a 49ers writer as much as Kawakami is. Yeah, Cohn gets contrarian but so did K, and Maiucco is even out singing Darnolds praises.
I get made fun of it alot over here. For years people have said I have a list of "approved writers". Its really quite simple and has never once changed.

I don't listen to anyone with the last name Cohn or Kawakami about the 49ers. Their MO is just clickbait. That's it.
 

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Grant Cohn is a legend. I’m talking about the old man not the son, even though the son writes for SI, he’s normally spot on. The son is more of a homer and hated Jimmy for some reason. All Jimmy did was win and move the sticks. If Trey had half the career and numbers Jimmy has put up it would be considered a success
They both suck.

Lowell is an old school writer, but same concept. It was always just about writing something to draw attention to himself.

Grant is just the same thing in the digital age.

This doesn't mean that they are always wrong, but it does mean that what they are saying is always geared to what will draw the most attention to themselves. Truth is secondary.
 

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Actually, Deebo makes more money if he gets more rush yards, so they incentivized it.

He will always get carries....I'm just saying I don't think they will ever lean as heavily on him to run the ball as they did year before last.

They were crushed that year by injuries at RB.
This is why you got the white RB..I'm surprised how he has held up since he
got there TBH.
 

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This is why you got the white RB..I'm surprised how he has held up since he
got there TBH.
Honestly...thats the question. What's "normal" for CMC. His first 3 years where he never got hurt, the next 2 where he was ALWAYS hurt, or last year where he didn't get hurt again.

Dunno.
 
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They both suck.

Lowell is an old school writer, but same concept. It was always just about writing something to draw attention to himself.

Grant is just the same thing in the digital age.

This doesn't mean that they are always wrong, but it does mean that what they are saying is always geared to what will draw the most attention to themselves. Truth is secondary.
At the end of the day the Hawks are going to more than likely take over the west again next year. What’s the rebuild plan for your 49ers after this year? Many project Seattle takes over
 

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I get made fun of it alot over here. For years people have said I have a list of "approved writers". Its really quite simple and has never once changed.

I don't listen to anyone with the last name Cohn or Kawakami about the 49ers. Their MO is just clickbait. That's it.
That's interesting that you don't like Tim Kawakami. I live in California, so I've read him off and on for a while, although I haven't read him much since he moved to the Athletic. I was always impressed with his objectivity, knowledge and intelligence. But I'm not a fan of any of the Bay area sports teams, and he's definitely not a homer.
 

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Honestly...thats the question. What's "normal" for CMC. His first 3 years where he never got hurt, the next 2 where he was ALWAYS hurt, or last year where he didn't get hurt again.

Dunno.
He was also fine for the games after the trade that season before.
For the size he is and the years RBs start to decline,if you get another
year of good health-Nice but after next season I'd expect he's going to
decline but you have all these RBs so it likely won't matter.
 

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Honestly...thats the question. What's "normal" for CMC. His first 3 years where he never got hurt, the next 2 where he was ALWAYS hurt, or last year where he didn't get hurt again.

Dunno.
CMC isn't necessarily more injury-prone than anyone else, but RBs always run the risk of getting hurt. The bigger problem is his contract. It's tough to be paying an RB $64 million over 4 years.

I think 2023 is Super Bowl or bust for the 49ers, before CMC gets injured and while the defense is still intact. In 2024 and 2025, CMC's cap hit is $14 million each year, and his dead cap is $8.5 million (in 2024) and $6.4 million (in 2025) so it won't be easy to cut him, even if he becomes less effective.
 

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CMC isn't necessarily more injury-prone than anyone else, but RBs always run the risk of getting hurt. The bigger problem is his contract. It's tough to be paying an RB $64 million over 4 years.

I think 2023 is Super Bowl or bust for the 49ers, before CMC gets injured and while the defense is still intact. In 2024 and 2025, CMC's cap hit is $14 million each year, and his dead cap is $8.5 million (in 2024) and $6.4 million (in 2025) so it won't be easy to cut him, even if he becomes less effective.
Everything is risk/reward. While the Seahawks are assembling a lot of good talent, everything comes down to whether or not Geno Smith was a flash in the pan. If he does well, the Seahawks are paying 30 mill for a QB while the 49ers are paying < 10 mil. If they cut him after next season, it's 17 mill dead money.
 
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Everything is risk/reward. While the Seahawks are assembling a lot of good talent, everything comes down to whether or not Geno Smith was a flash in the pan. If he does well, the Seahawks are paying 30 mill for a QB while the 49ers are paying < 10 mil. If they cut him after next season, it's 17 mill dead money.
Geno Smith’s cap hit for 23’ is $10 mil.
Meanwhile you’re paying a bust that you spent 3 first rounders on $9.5 this year to ride pine. Your quarterback situation is putrid and doesn’t compare. Lol
 

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Geno Smith’s cap hit for 23’ is $10 mil.
Meanwhile you’re paying a bust that you spent 3 first rounders on $9.5 this year to ride pine. Your quarterback situation is putrid and doesn’t compare. Lol
No it isn't. Loool (I'm told that extra o's make it even MORE devastating).
 
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No it isn't. Loool (I'm told that extra o's make it even MORE devastating).

PlayerCap Hit
1Patrick Mahomes$39,693,381
2Ryan Tannehill$36,600,000
3Lamar Jackson$32,416,000
4Jared Goff$30,975,000
5Dak Prescott$27,155,000
6Russell Wilson$22,000,000
7Daniel Jones$21,000,000
8Kirk Cousins$20,250,000
9Matthew Stafford$20,000,000
10Deshaun Watson$19,125,000
11Josh Allen$18,636,281
12Jimmy Garoppolo$16,300,000
13Kyler Murray$16,007,000
14Aaron Rodgers$15,790,000
15Joe Burrow$11,515,043
16Mitchell Trubisky$10,625,000
17Geno Smith$10,100,000
18Trevor Lawrence$10,034,588
19Tua Tagovailoa$9,633,094
20Zach Wilson$9,586,549
21Trey Lance$9,301,439
22Jacoby Brissett$8,500,000
23Justin Herbert$8,456,877
24Derek Carr$7,200,000
 

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Your quarterback situation is putrid and doesn’t compare. Lol
No it isn't. Actually the 49ers quarterback situation is better than the Hawks. I can say this because I'm completely objective and always right.

Geno Smith is a one year wonder who started off hot but became mediocre as the season went on.

Purdy got better as the season went on even though teams were doing their best to blitz / confuse Mr. Relevant. He played well in games where he didn't practice all week due to rib injuries. He made off schedule plays, threw from different arm angles, all the stuff you want a QB to do. It reminded me a little of Montana *makes sign of cross*.

If Purdy is not ready to go, Darnold and Lance will be fighting it out. Darnold was at least the equivalent of Geno prior to last year, is finally playing for a good team, and has the arm talent to run the system. His QB rating last season was 94 for the mediocre Panthers with no-name receivers (the other qbs combined for a roughly 75 rating). Geno Smith was 100.9 with better receivers. Lance is wait and see, but there have been some positive news items regarding improved mechanics and a properly healed finger. Its amazing to have 3 quarterbacks with such potential on one team, and then you add Shanahan as the coach? Yikes.
 

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CMC isn't necessarily more injury-prone than anyone else, but RBs always run the risk of getting hurt. The bigger problem is his contract. It's tough to be paying an RB $64 million over 4 years.

I think 2023 is Super Bowl or bust for the 49ers, before CMC gets injured and while the defense is still intact. In 2024 and 2025, CMC's cap hit is $14 million each year, and his dead cap is $8.5 million (in 2024) and $6.4 million (in 2025) so it won't be easy to cut him, even if he becomes less effective.
Its easier when your entire QB room costs less than your starting RB.

We'll see if he can stay healthy, but he had 1880 total yards and 13TDs so not exactly thinking they need to be rid of that salary.
 

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Cmon Marv, we are all just randos with their own hot takes.

All three can succeed in Shan’s system for the first four games. But Shan’s qbs are almost always injured. Brandon Allen is a nice ps move, but as Joe Burrow’s primary backup, you gotta imagine that he’s going to get snatched off, so with Shan’s record, I’d continue taking that qb4 position as seriously as he does now.
 
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No it isn't. Actually the 49ers quarterback situation is better than the Hawks. I can say this because I'm completely objective and always right.

Geno Smith is a one year wonder who started off hot but became mediocre as the season went on.

Purdy got better as the season went on even though teams were doing their best to blitz / confuse Mr. Relevant. He played well in games where he didn't practice all week due to rib injuries. He made off schedule plays, threw from different arm angles, all the stuff you want a QB to do. It reminded me a little of Montana *makes sign of cross*.

If Purdy is not ready to go, Darnold and Lance will be fighting it out. Darnold was at least the equivalent of Geno prior to last year, is finally playing for a good team, and has the arm talent to run the system. His QB rating last season was 94 for the mediocre Panthers with no-name receivers (the other qbs combined for a roughly 75 rating). Geno Smith was 100.9 with better receivers. Lance is wait and see, but there have been some positive news items regarding improved mechanics and a properly healed finger. It’s amazing to have 3 quarterbacks with such potential on one team, and then you add Shanahan as the coach? Yikes.
When was the last 49er quarterback that has thrown for over 4,000? Jeff Garcia? Lol
You’re paying a bum that busted out after 3 years virtually the same salary as our starter. Darnold ain’t bad tbh but he’s not on Geno’s level has never posted numbers like Geno.
 
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