Let's just say we take a WR at 20.

[getnasty]

While I don't think it's the direction they go i've seen of WR's mocked to Seattle at 20 then any other position. Let's say they do go WR who's the guy your taken at 20?

 

[GemCity]

JSN

 

[getnasty]

JSN

Shocker!

He's probably the one I favor too. Lockett and DK on the outside with JSN in the slot sounds lethal.

 

[CactusJack]

JSN

Ditto.

JSN is a stud. I would be beyond ecstatic if he was still available.

 

[Chevy]

Fun topic.

The only WR I would take in the 1st round is Josh Downs. There are some good speed guys in this draft, but Downs has quickness, speed, route running, and good hands. He gives the QB an immediate target in the passing game. The other top-rated speed WRs mainly run go-routes, so not polished players to be taken in the 1st round.

 

[AgentDib]

My list is going to be much longer than most; I would take eight at #20. Receiver is one of the most important positions in the modern NFL if you look at how the top offenses are doing things and how positions are being paid relative to each other. We have the QB and OTs, and are proficient at finding developmental cornerbacks later on in the draft. The value for me is mainly receivers and pass rush. We can address ILB, IOL, DT and S on days 2 and 3.

1) JSN. We need a slot and he's one of the best slot receiver prospects to come along in years.
2) Dalton Kincaid. Move TE who could be a high volume receiver in the middle of the field. Not afraid of tough catches.
3/4) Josh Downs and Zay Flowers both remind me a lot of rookie Tyler Lockett with more drops. Downs seems a touch more athletic, Flowers a bit more willing as a blocker.
5) Quentin Johnston. His average play is underwhelming and he's going to get over drafted as the only high tier split end prospect. However, like Anthony Richardson, the best 3-5 plays that Johnston made last year are some of the best 3-5 plays in college football. Some team is going to ask why they can't help a guy who can make the toughest catches be more consistent on the easy ones.
6) Jordan Addison. The combine hurt his stock with some, but he won in college by understanding where the holes in the defense were and creating his own separation.
7) Jalin Hyatt. Flanker speedster who reminds me of Paul Richardson with better hands. His college production should be taken with a grain of salt playing in the Tennessee offense.
8) Michael Mayer. Maybe cheating on this one as he's more of an Inline TE, but Mayer's blocking abilities do cause some to overlook his receiving abilities. Great hands and comes down with contested catches.

I'll also throw out Tyler Scott, WR from Cincinnati as a prospect to target. Chip on the shoulder type who lined up on the outside in college due to his willingness to be physical. Measurables are very close to both Downs and Flowers. Former RB so his YAC and utility on jet sweeps is very high. He had a few too many drops but given the position switch his hands are solid. I really like him as a potential ADB type in the slot or Lockett type on the outside.

 

[GemCity]

Shocker!

He's probably the one I favor too. Lockett and DK on the outside with JSN in the slot sounds lethal.

Rat had to remind me…he’s a beast. JSN is too

 

[CactusJack]

There are two guys, JSN & Flowers who have the ability to be special in my eyes.

 

[SonicHawk]

Jalin Hyatt

 

[James in PA]

It would be damn nice to finally have that WR3 position figured out. JSN gets my vote as well. That just sounds like the name of a receiver who'll be successful in the NFL.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

It’s JSN, and it’s not even close. He’s going to be a fabulous NFL slot receiver. As good a route runner as Lockett. I get flack from people on Bears forum, because I want JSN at #9.

 

[olyfan63]

There are two guys, JSN & Flowers who have the ability to be special in my eyes.

Thanks for posting the videos!

With JSN, love how he gets open consistently and reliably catches the ball, including deep ball contested catches. It seemed that his YAC and running improved as he went along.
Concerns: 1) Limited top end speed, what could be TDs are caught-from-behinds instead. Joey Porter Jr. ran him down from behind with such ease it was embarrassing. 2) Ohio state personnel advantage and CJ Stroud putting ball in great position for catches, made JSN's job that much easier in college.
I do think JSN will be a solid pro.

Zay Flowers, lots in common with JSN, but looks positively electric when he gets the ball. *Seems* to have that run-away-from-you top end speed. But sample size lacking, and Joey Porter Jr. wasn't chasing him. Concerns: Was Flowers' level of competition below JSNs where he was a man among boys?

I'll have to leave it to the scouts if the Hawks see enough to draft one or none. Either way, an incoming rookie WR couldn't ask for a better mentor than Tyler Lockett.

The tape sure makes a case for CJ Stroud, and also shows off Joey Porter Jr.

 

[Ozzy]

I think Downs is my favorite if they go early. I think WR is definitely in play at 20 for the Seahawks depending on how the board shakes out. I think with Carter being off the board at 5 (I think) it makes it less likely they go WR at 20 but its possible.

 

[WarHawks]

I'm trying to remember when we've taken a receiver in the first round, and had it work out well? I'm not against the idea, just wondering about value.

 

[KinesProf]

WR is for sure in play at 20. Not so much because it is a pressing need - though without a WR3, and thinking about a WR2 when Lockett is done; it is a reasonable need. I think it is in play because there could be a lot of value at WR at 20.

JSN, Flowers, Downs could all be in play. Johnston could be a future WR2 on the perimeter and afford Lockett more work from the slot as he ages.

 

[AgentDib]

As you can tell from my list, I would even be tempted to double dip at receiver if we trade down from #5. Adding two guys like JSN and Kincaid to this offense would make it extremely dangerous, coupled with a later RB like McIntosh. Metcalf/Lockett/JSN/Kincaid/Walker/McIntosh would be formidable and we'd have weapons on par with the Chiefs, 49ers or Bengals. We'd also still have good picks to shore up the lines on day 2/3.

I'm trying to remember when we've taken a receiver in the first round, and had it work out well? I'm not against the idea, just wondering about value.

Our franchise has to be right at the bottom of draft capital spent on WR over the years. I don't think Galloway or Robinson have much to do with receiver value in 2023. This FO has picked some good day 2 receivers when they are available to play.

Day 1
#9 '01 - Koren Robinson
#8 '95 - Joey Galloway

Day 2
#56 '21 - Dee Eskridge (this FO)
#64 '20 - DK Metcalf (this FO)
#69 '15 - Tyler Lockett (this FO)
#45 '14 - Paul Richardson (this FO)
#60 '10 - Golden Tate (this FO)
#91 '09 - Deon Butler
#80 '00 - Darrell Jackson
#82 '99 - Karsten Bailey
#51 '91 - Doug Thomas
#49 '88 - Brian Blades
#75 '88 - Tommy Kane
#81 '85 - Danny Greene
#49 '84 - Daryl Turner
#87 '81 - Scott Phillips?!
#59 '76 - Steve Raible

 

[ImTheScientist]

JSN....they should actually trade down from #5 and pick JSN in the 10-15 range to make sure they get him.

 

[nanomoz]

This dude seems like a better prospect than many of the names in this thread. I don't get why he is so underrated.

 

[chris98251]

I like Goodwin and Treadwell has pedigree if he can get on the field. I am more concerned about another Bell Cow back.

 

[olyfan63]

JSN....they should actually trade down from #5 and pick JSN in the 10-15 range to make sure they get him.

Count me in the "Day 2 WR" camp. Just NO to a WR at #20, unless it's a #1 receiver type, say, Quentin Johnston of TCU, who will probably be long gone by then. JSN will be a solid pro, but spending round 1 draft capital on a slot receiver keeps the Hawks from getting the best talent for beefing up the front 7 on D or adding a road grader interior O-Lineman. Interior O-Line weakness alone lost us a couple games last year. Underpowered front 7 cost us at least 5 losses last year.

It sucks that Dee Eskridge has produced almost nothing of value for the Hawks at WR3/slot receiver/jet sweep threat, and Carroll clearly values this role highly, but a lot of guys that excelled in the slot receiver role have been later-round picks and one of the greatest, Wes Welker, was undrafted. Maybe 2023 is the year Eskridge is healthy and the light bulb goes on? In any case, slot WR is such a crapshoot, character, toughness, intelligence, rapport with QB*, so many qualities that are hard to truly know (at the NFL level) pre-draft. I do agree that JSN is the closest to a "sure thing" for this role in the NFL. If the Hawks love JSN at #20, are certain he's the second coming of Steve Largent, I'll get over it.

* In an interview with Wes Welker, he was asked about being angry with a teammate to the point of screaming at each other. Of course Welker cited several disagreements with Tom Brady over how a route should be run. When asked who was right, Welker shrugged and said, "the QB is always right." That quality is why Welker was one of the great ones.