Marquis Goodwin

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Do the Hawks re-sign him, and would he then be our de facto #3? I thought he played great overall this year. I just read that the Hawks have the fastest receiving corps in the nfl right now, not that speed is everything. But it helps.
 
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Yep, way better. Will be interesting to see if he sticks around.
 

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I thought that Marquis Goodman was really a stand out player...not sure what his stats are, but he really seemed to deliver in critical moments. Bring him back and spend the draft choices on defense!
 

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Jerhawk that's a sick avatar.

I like Goodwin. I hope they can keep him at the right price. Lot if holes to fill and wr 3 would be yet another if they let him walk.
 

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Eskridge is a bust if you look at draft capital spent and production. Goodwin did more last year then Eskridge in his career to date and at critical moments, the guy steps up when called upon.
I think it is too early to write Eskridge off as a bust. On average, how long does it take WRs to acclimate to the NFL and become productive? How do injuries, team scheme, depth at the position, QB turnover, etc. impact the development of a young receiver?

I keep hearing analysts say that WR is one of the most difficult transitions from college to pros, yet we seem to expect guys to come in and contribute instantly. I think we can be disappointed at his production to date without jumping to the bust conclusion when Eskridge has been playing behind two above-average starters, changed quarterbacks after his rookie year, and dealt with some injuries. Maybe two years from now he is still unable to crack the depth chart, but it is much too early to jump to that conclusion today.
 

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I think it is too early to write Eskridge off as a bust. On average, how long does it take WRs to acclimate to the NFL and become productive? How do injuries, team scheme, depth at the position, QB turnover, etc. impact the development of a young receiver?

I keep hearing analysts say that WR is one of the most difficult transitions from college to pros, yet we seem to expect guys to come in and contribute instantly. I think we can be disappointed at his production to date without jumping to the bust conclusion when Eskridge has been playing behind two above-average starters, changed quarterbacks after his rookie year, and dealt with some injuries. Maybe two years from now he is still unable to crack the depth chart, but it is much too early to jump to that conclusion today.
Good point Sun Tzu. Tyler Lockett and DK developed quickly as they were productive in their rookie years. Each player is different and Eskridge has had a number of injuries to deal with. Those have derailed his start in the NFL.

Back to the thread topic....I hope Goodwin is resigned. He showed he can be a valuable contributor to the team.
 

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For those worrying about WR3, he's a nice option IMO. Still can draft one, of course. I kind of like Eskridge for his speed, but he hasn't produced much.
 

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Goodwin signed with the Seahawks for one year after the draft on May 23, 2022.

I would expect him to make a decision after the draft this year as well. He was on the field for 38.4% of the offensive snaps. He'll be a spot player again this year if and when and where he makes a signing decision.
 

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I think it is too early to write Eskridge off as a bust. On average, how long does it take WRs to acclimate to the NFL and become productive? How do injuries, team scheme, depth at the position, QB turnover, etc. impact the development of a young receiver?

I keep hearing analysts say that WR is one of the most difficult transitions from college to pros, yet we seem to expect guys to come in and contribute instantly. I think we can be disappointed at his production to date without jumping to the bust conclusion when Eskridge has been playing behind two above-average starters, changed quarterbacks after his rookie year, and dealt with some injuries. Maybe two years from now he is still unable to crack the depth chart, but it is much too early to jump to that conclusion today.
The post was about Goodwin Sun Tsu, and if I had to choose between Goodwin and Eskridge?, there's No Contest, Goodwin is ready and proven way more than able to take the snaps that Eskridge has been unable to swing since being Drafted, and it's really sad too, because I really had high hopes & expectations for the kid.
 

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Goodwin was reportedly a good leader and teammate, and we certainly used him a fair amount in the flanker (Z) role last season. I would definitely wait to re-sign him until we see how the draft goes though as he'll be turning 33 soon and his role is a likely draft target.

We don't really want to overpay older smaller receivers given how effective two and three tight end sets are for this scheme. Those sets require a bigger split end and one or zero smaller shifty receivers respectively.
 

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I'd be thrilled to keep Goodwin as our #3. Even if we draft a ready-to-play WR this year I'd make the rookie beat Goodwin to get playing time.
 

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Goodwin was reportedly a good leader and teammate, and we certainly used him a fair amount in the flanker (Z) role last season. I would definitely wait to re-sign him until we see how the draft goes though as he'll be turning 33 soon and his role is a likely draft target.

We don't really want to overpay older smaller receivers given how effective two and three tight end sets are for this scheme. Those sets require a bigger split end and one or zero smaller shifty receivers respectively.
Good points. It kind of depends on the Geno situation as well. If we do sign Geno, keeping a vet WR that has worked with him could be a big positive going forward. What we do with Geno also affects the cap situation significantly, and while Goodwin would not be that expensive a rookie would be cheaper.
 

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I think it is too early to write Eskridge off as a bust. On average, how long does it take WRs to acclimate to the NFL and become productive? How do injuries, team scheme, depth at the position, QB turnover, etc. impact the development of a young receiver?

I keep hearing analysts say that WR is one of the most difficult transitions from college to pros, yet we seem to expect guys to come in and contribute instantly.
This is fair, generally speaking, but in the case of Eskridge, he's tiny and can't stay healthy enough to make progress. I don't care about the "bust" label but I do care if the Seahawks are counting on him to be the #3, that's a huge risk IMO.
 
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