HawkRiderFan
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Yep I think on that 4th quarter TD the Rams had, that bootleg completion to Higbee might have been the only completion on that whole drive. It was a various runs
Clint Hurt Should Be Fired
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Yep I think on that 4th quarter TD the Rams had, that bootleg completion to Higbee might have been the only completion on that whole drive. It was a various runs
Hawkpower
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It was Bevell, then it was Schotty, then it was Waldron (and always Pete)
Maybe they werent the problem
I think you're on to something here
DJ_CJ
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The Rams have always been a thorn regardless of roster and record.
morgulon1
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I'm not thrilled with the results but he has bad character? I hadn't heard anything like that personally
he is a very powerful d-lineman. at times, he totally manhandles the other guy.
even when our defense is having a bad day, i'm still looking to see what woods will do; because he is a beast on individual matchups.
Jerhawk
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Yes when he was with the University of Miami he got in big trouble. This isnt the kind of man I want leading this young defense.
NCAA says former Miami assistant Clint Hurtt misled investigation
The NCAA said that former Miami assistant football coach Clint Hurtt provided false or misleading information during the NCAA's investigation into the school's
www.si.com
BASF
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Well, he was the line coach for years, so he is obviously responsible for how poorly the D-Line plays including tackling. As I have pointed out on several occasions the only players who developed on the line under his coaching to play better than their draft status is Poona with a little bit of Reed and Clark if you think they outplayed their round two drafting. Since he became the D-Coordinator, the play of practically everyone on the front seven has regressed horribly. It was his decision to allow the line to sit back to read and react two gaps instead of controlling the one gaps that our players can actually handle.
As far as the posters who want to blame Pete for wanting to stop the run first being the problem, what the hell do you think should be his priority? We are getting gashed on the ground by all but a few teams this season. We have had three good games against the run and two average games against the run. The other games stopping the run has been our biggest problem. We absolutely need better talent DT, DE, and ILB. We will need to replace Diggs since he should be a cap casualty next season and his run fits have been poor this season. We have the talent infusion coming in the offseason with a lot of draft capital and a lot less dead money for free agents. None of that changes the fact that Clint Hurtt's decisions and coaching have cost us several games this season.
The problem has always been fans unrealistic expectations. They have little nuance.It was Bevell, then it was Schotty, then it was Waldron (and always Pete)
Maybe they werent the problem
I think you're on to something here
We have 2 more wins than I expected. That’s good coaching imo.
morgulon1
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What's wrong? hahahaYes when he was with the University of Miami he got in big trouble. This isnt the kind of man I want leading this young defense.
NCAA says former Miami assistant Clint Hurtt misled investigation
The NCAA said that former Miami assistant football coach Clint Hurtt provided false or misleading information during the NCAA's investigation into the school's
All he was doing was being a Miami Hurricanes coach. Aren't they supposed
To be shady?
You're conflating great QB play with good coaching. McVay outclassed Pete. Have them switch sidelines and McVay wins comfortably. The same issues persist. Pete wants to run the ball and play great defense. That is what he emphasizes, not getting bailed out by great QB play.
Geno's great season is looking like it's going to be wasted.
When was the last time Seattle ran the ball and played great defense consistently for a season? 2014? 2015? That was a long-time ago.
Many on here, (I'm not sure if you do as well, just making a broader point.) seem to just go with the immediate results.
Pete wins, regardless of what has transpired = good coaching. Pete loses, regardless of what has transpired = bad coaching. Results based.
Process based and body of work approach. You cannot spin or damage control how bad the defense looked against the Rams JV offense.
Geno heroics, doesn't = good coaching. But it provides a smoke screen screen, for the same failed process to continue.
This defense is going nowhere with Hurtt in charge. And Pete's internal hires at DC continue to fail, one after another, but it's never Pete's fault for some reason. Richard, Norton, now Hurtt.
Imagine Holmgren flailing away on offense for years, how would that go?
The Seahawks are gonna break their franchise record for yards given up, which they set last year under, Norton!
It just continues to get worse no matter how much talent JS adds or draft picks they throw at it.
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And I think you are confusing great coaching with great QB play. Geno is playing great because he’s well coached and is placed in good situations by good play calling. That take is every bit as valid as your take.
Our defense has been bad for years despite playing for a coach that has had historically great defenses. That points more to personnel if you ask me.
SoulfishHawk
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I'll give Fade credit on one thing, when he dug his feet in the ground about Pete being Satan, he never backed off. Even being completely wrong.
morgulon1
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Fade and Pittpanther (sp?) Give me a real fatalistic view of life .
Not saying their takes aren't valid to some extent. But shit man...
Not saying their takes aren't valid to some extent. But shit man...
SoulfishHawk
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Once we all accept that Pete sucks, and everything sucks, including winning........we will be on that level of doom and gloom.
seatownlowdown
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carroll propped up russell wilson to be a borderline hof qb. if it were up to you we would have re-signed wilson to a longterm megadeal. you're on record saying the broncos re-signed wilson to a bargain. lmao
they're stuck with him until atleast 2025. but instead we have cap maneuverability, just had the best draft in the nfl, and have the broncos pick (currently #3) in the next draft with 4 picks in the top 54.in a matter of weeks you went from "geno smith is trash" to "we are wasting geno smith". you said we would all miss russell wilson. and yet still, by your absurd logic you must think geno would be tearing it up on the broncos right now. in no way did you see us with a 7-5 record at this point. it must really hurt you inside to see pete carroll win games with such a pourous defense. that little ego gets crushed with every wilson disastrous performance and with ever W tallied by our team. 5-12... 5-12... 5-12 poor baby
nobody disagrees the front 7 have been atrocious. nobody disagrees that clint hurtt's system is failing. nobody disagrees that carroll is loyal to his subjects. you're not saying anything really, other than pete carroll seems to have banged your mom.
Clint Hurtt is the Tom cable of the Defense.
SoulfishHawk
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Fricken snow coming back. Thanks a lot, Pete.
