Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU

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This guy paired with DK and Lockett??!

DK, the X, Lockett in the slot, and Johnston, the Z would be a nice trio!

This guy has some specialness to him with size and actually fights hard for the ball.

I like his jumpball abilities and YAC.

His offense is somewhat similar to DK when DK was at Ole Miss. He ran some designer routes and some believe does not run the “entire” route tree but Johnston is a gamer.

6’ 4” 215 with DK opposite him is a defensive coordinator’s nightmare.

Johnston may be the best WR in this years draft and he isn’t believed to be.

Would love to see the future be DK and Quentin Johnston with Lockett having a few more seasons under him tutoring Johnston.

 

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Seahawks are not drafting a WR in the 1st round
Never say never with PC/JS. They have used a 1st & 2nd on RB recently. Johnston would be a stud in our offense. If you an get him to buy in, and block aswell, the Hawks would be hangin 50 burgers on opponents!
 

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Never say never with PC/JS. They have used a 1st & 2nd on RB recently. Johnston would be a stud in our offense. If you an get him to buy in, and block aswell, the Hawks would be hangin 50 burgers on opponents!
Seahawks do not value WRs highly. Metcalf was late 2nd rd and Lockette was a 3rd rounder. I expect DL/OL in the 1st round with both picks.

Main reason the Seahawks were able to draft Metcalf was teams thought he couldn’t catch and had a bad attitude. Seahawks thought he was worth the gamble at the end of the 2nd round
 
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Seahawks do not value WRs highly. Metcalf was late 2nd rd and Lockette was a 3rd rounder. I expect DL/OL in the 1st round with both picks.

Main reason the Seahawks were able to draft Metcalf was teams thought he couldn’t catch and had a bad attitude. Seahawks thought he was worth the gamble at the end of the 2nd round
I disagree with “Seahawks” do not value WRs highly.

Where a receiver gets drafted does not confirm Seattle doesn’t value receivers highly.

Where a player is drafted is where they grade a player. In todays modern NFL, receivers are in fact, “highly” valued. Aside from the QB, and possibly LT, the WR is probably the second/third most sought after chess piece of an NFL offense.

A prolific receiver changes landscapes of NFL offensive game planning.

Seattle could in fact, select receiver in the first round to be the third receiver and possible apparent successor to Lockett one day.

Seattle isn’t yet as deep at receiver as they hope to be. Goodwin has made some plays here and there but he doesn’t have the consistent threat to catch high balls and mismatch against nickel corners. And Goodwin is getting older and older.

A young stud, tall and big receiver, may be the threat Seattle would like paired with DK and Lockett.

Never say never with PC. I think we’ve all learned that this year.
 

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I wouldn't hate the pick at all. There's a lot of value to be had in putting 3 stud WRs out there - and these young WRs are coming into the league so impressive these days.

What I don't like is first round off ball LBers unless they can get after the QB like Parsons does. I don't think Trenton Simpson is that player. Drew Sanders depending upon how he tests could offer that complete game.

1st round Oline - I'd be interested if they didn't have both OT spots solidified for the long-term. I don't see any 1st round calibre interior olinemen.

1st round dline - I'd be all in on Carter, Bresee, Wilson.

TE & RB - No.

DB? I'd be happy to pull the trigger on Joey Porter, Kelee Ringo, Christian Gonzalez, Brian Branch or Antonio Johnson; but I don't know if the Hawks would. Especially with Woolen, Jackson, Bryant, and Brown all being young with upside.

It's still so far away, but I think the first round presents WR and DL as value, grade, and usefulness matching up (QB being the wild card if they love someone). Interior oline gets really good in the 2nd.

If I had to do a quick Hawks mock based upon where they sit now, with guesses on where the players will be valued:

1-1)DT Bresee
1-2)WR Hyatt
2-1)LB Sanders
2-2)IOL Van Pran

Part of what made the '22 draft so exceptional is that they didn't fight the board and just took excellent players as they presented themselves. You could tell as it was happening that the draft was, at worst, solid.
 
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Seahawks do not value WRs highly. Metcalf was late 2nd rd and Lockette was a 3rd rounder. I expect DL/OL in the 1st round with both picks.

Main reason the Seahawks were able to draft Metcalf was teams thought he couldn’t catch and had a bad attitude. Seahawks thought he was worth the gamble at the end of the 2nd round
Counter argument...
Pete and John have never drafted interior o-lineman in the 1st round....just saying.

Going off Pete and John's draft history, I think they value WRs more than interior offensive lineman. They traded up to draft Metcalf and traded up to draft Lockett. They have drafted 6 WR's in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and drafted 5 interior offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. And haven't traded up to draft a lineman in the first three rounds.
 

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I like the fact that you gave some attention to Drew Sanders. That's a name I'm not sure has been mentioned on these forums yet, I could be wrong though. I like him in the 2nd but if he shoots up the draft board we might have to take him with our late 1st round pick.

 

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Bears are drafting Johnston. Eberflus says, “we like big receivers.” They just traded for Claypool. Johnston would be natural fit on other side. He wants big receivers who can block.
 

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I like the fact that you gave some attention to Drew Sanders. That's a name I'm not sure has been mentioned on these forums yet, I could be wrong though. I like him in the 2nd but if he shoots up the draft board we might have to take him with our late 1st round pick.


Sanders looks like a good option at LB I am guessing he will be an edge in NFL and need to gain a little weight at least 10 lbs. probably a 2nd-3rd rd pick
 

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Bears are drafting Johnston. Eberflus says, “we like big receivers.” They just traded for Claypool. Johnston would be natural fit on other side. He wants big receivers who can block.
You if want a blocking WR it won’t be Johnston. Bears would be better off using multiple TE sets
 

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You if want a blocking WR it won’t be Johnston. Bears would be better off using multiple TE sets
If he’s not a good blocker yet, he will be by they time the Bears coaches get done with him. Ryan Poles personally scouted Johnston. He’s serious about getting WR1.
 

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So, the hawks have the highest pick they've had since what, 2011 or something? And they pick a wide receiver? Come on, man. That just doesn't make any sense.
 

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If he fell to our second 1st round pick, then I would be cool with the pick. At this point he seems to be the consensus #1 WR in the draft, so getting him in the late 1st would be a steal.

Although there are going to be some really good WRs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
 

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If he fell to our second 1st round pick, then I would be cool with the pick. At this point he seems to be the consensus #1 WR in the draft, so getting him in the late 1st would be a steal.

Although there are going to be some really good WRs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
Who would you take if Johnston is not available? I am trying to figure out my top-3.
 

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So, the hawks have the highest pick they've had since what, 2011 or something? And they pick a wide receiver? Come on, man. That just doesn't make any sense.
If the Bronco’s keep losing the pick could be top 5 which could lead to Jalen Carter or Will Anderson. If I had a choice if both players were available I am taking Carter he’s been the most unblockable defensive player I have seen this year. I am hoping the Saints go on a win streak and we leap frog Philly draft choice position wise
 

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I could see the Bears drafting Johnson at pick #3. The Bears need to give their young QB help, be it WR or offensive line. At pick #3 there isn't an offensive lineman worth that selection. Johnson and Chase Claypool would give Justin Fields two amazing WRs, and the GM could get target FA offensive lineman in Free Agency. Then the 2023 season could be a better gage to see if Justin Fields is a franchise QB.
 

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I could see the Bears drafting Johnson at pick #3. The Bears need to give their young QB help, be it WR or offensive line. At pick #3 there isn't an offensive lineman worth that selection. Johnson and Chase Claypool would give Justin Fields two amazing WRs, and the GM could get target FA offensive lineman in Free Agency. Then the 2023 season could be a better gage to see if Justin Fields is a franchise QB.
From what I have seen of Field’s he has a problem of throwing with anticipation a receiver needs to be wide open. So far Claypool has done nothing 3 games 5 catches 32 yards.
For Fields I like the RPO and using multiple TEs to help with blocking and I like the most matches that a good receiving TE on a LB can produce. I agree that if the Bears there are no worthy OL to take if they get lucky they could trade down. At #3 too early for Johnston If they can’t trade out I would think drafting DL would get them the most value
 

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My counter point is, what your opinion on what offensive scheme is best for Feilds vs. what the current Bears coaching staff offensive philosophy are probably completely different. Maybe you are right, but if the coaching staff stays the same then mocking to the current coaching staff makes the most sense.

As far as Johnson is concerned, it's more of a projection at a top-5 pick. Right now, before the NFL Combine and him playing at TCU, then yes, it's too early. But, if he blows up the combine, which is likely, then he is a top-10 WR. If he was at Alabama, he would be in the top-10 on every mock draft on the internet.
 

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