Geno Smith...

[Maelstrom787]

I am trying to be as purely objective as possible here.

A Geno fanboy wouldn't caveat half his posts with "I think Geno is not a long-term starter in the NFL and is a slightly below average starter at his very best."

A Geno fanboy wouldn't make a post last week saying "don't use box score stats alone, because Geno did as well on the stat sheet but Lock looked better in actuality."

 

[Maelstrom787]

Because of the Jaguars game....He is a better fit then Wilson.

Can we keep the absurd exaggerations and strawmen out of this thread for once?

Like, please, go ahead and whale on that invented bogeyman to your hearts content. Let's just keep this thread actually related to what happened on the field last night rather than devoted to your snarky, arms-crossed drive-by swipes.

 

[Tusc2000]

Geno is washed up, and Lock is a dog. We should use this season to evaluate Jacob Eason, he is a raw talent, but with a higher potential ceiling than Geno or Lock. This year will probably be our lost year, and I doubt we'll win more than 3-4 games, but at least Eason provides a tiny glimmer of hope for the future. There's no real risk here to playing Eason, if he fails badly, it just means we'll get the #1 overall pick rather than the #3 or #4. If he does okay, we might have a nice backup QB for the next few years.

 

[scutterhawk]

I'm no supporter of Geno but the penalties and drops really did hurt him last night. That said we know who he is at this point and having to go through an entire season with him at QB and not someone we drafted is a waste of an entire year imo.
Pete saying that Geno deserves a shot is absurd. The franchise and the fans owe him nothing and his play does not demand starts.
I am so frustrated by the decisions this F.O. has made. Poor desperate decision after poor desperate decision that have decimated this team of talent.
Having said that I am hopeful for this latest draft class but that seems to be the anomaly at this point not the rule. Pete lost his way and bad decisions have led to more bad decisions when it comes to roster construction here and now we have a complete and utter disaster season ahead of us.
This isn't, and never was, Russ's fault and I am also sure that he could see this and wanted out. I don't blame him.

Yeah, I got the exact same feeling yesterday as I did a few times in the past when Russ crapped the bed, and his Receivers ALSO DROPPED the very CATCHABLE balls.
Gabe Jackson's 'Hands to The Face' really helped sustain the penalties and kill drives...Geno has to fix that crap.

 

[hawkfan68]

He's not defending anything. The play call worked. Indisputable. The ball was in the wrs hands. Indisputable. Not only were the passes good, the ones that were flat dropped were perfect.

So if the receiver drops a perfect, momentum carrying pass for a 3rd down conversion... or Geno hits another perfect pass that's negated by a penalty, or a 2nd or 3rd pass is dropped... right in the hands of the receiver, that's on Geno? The qb can only put the ball where it needs to go.

He had 3 off target passes and a throw away. The rest should have been caught or converted. That 13 for 17 and 14 for 18 if you count the penalty negating pass.

If you're qb is 26 for 34 passing every week, you're going to win games.

Where he struggled was, even on the crosser that Swain dropped, getting the ball there a little late.. catchable, but late.

Of all the things to pile on in this game, the qb was the least of the problems. Dropped passes, 3 drive killing penalties by your LT, over pursuing defense, garbage special teams play...

How many of Geno led drives resulted in tds this preseason so far? Completing 26 of 34 is great for comp pct but if you're not scoring on the drives, it means nothing. Geno has 1 rushing td so far in preseason games. You'd think a vet QB would have more than that.

Yesterday's game, I agree he didn't get much help. But he's averaged a little over 1 td per game (passing) in the games he's started with the Seahawks (last season and so far this preseason). That's not enough.

 

[keasley45]

Are you just looking at the stats or actually watching the passes that Should be caught to sustain drives and are dropped. Like the 2nd one up the sideline yesterday. Perfectly placed, and dropped.

I'd imagine the results would be a but better if he had DK or Tyler on the other end.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Geno doesn't seem to deal with adversity well.

Other QBs can sometimes do that. I rarely see Geno figure it out.
I just don't think he processes fast enough to be a starting QB, and I don't think he has the mental makeup to be a starting QB in the league.

Even if he had the 2nd comings of Steve Largent and Jerry Rice on each side.
But nobody wants to think we are screwed. I don't begrudge people for wanting to believe in him because they would rather have hope than feel hopeless.

Completely get it. But it feels like more a wish than a projection to expect him to do OK.

 

[hawkfan68]

Are you just looking at the stats or actually watching the passes that Should be caught to sustain drives and are dropped. Like the 2nd one up the sideline yesterday. Perfectly placed, and dropped.

I'd imagine the results would be a but better if he had DK or Tyler on the other end.

I did watch the game and saw the dropped passes and penalties.Then Myers proceeded to miss a FG. I also saw that Lockett and Metcalf were in for a few plays in the 1st qtr but Geno didn't find them. It's ok.

I'm not just talking about this game. He didn't score much with them last season when Lockett and Metcalf were in there majority of the time too.

Edit: I recalled incorrectly the missed FG drive by the Seahawks. Geno didn't get sacked but there was a fumble on 3rd down that Penny Hart recovered. But he did get sacked on the series prior to that one where they were at the Bear 43 yard line (2nd and 4 yds to go). He got sacked for a 9 yard loss.

 

[fullquartpress]

Geno was nervous.
He needs swagger mentoring, from Drew.

 

[Slick]

I'm not hearing any of this. I blame Geno for the following:

• Ukraine
• Axl Rose's vocal problems
• That cop's tiny dick
• Food dye
• Drake
• Hard Seltzers

Just putting that out there....

 

[fullquartpress]

I'm not hearing any of this. I blame Geno for the following:

• Ukraine
• Axl Rose's vocal problems
• That cop's tiny dick
• Food dye
• Drake
• Hard Seltzers

Just putting that out there....

You forgot the big one:
CLIMATE CHANGE!

 

[Titus Pullo]

Geno doesn't want to be a starter. He prefers to hide out as 2nd string, collect a check, and live with no pressures.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Geno doesn't want to be a starter. He prefers to hide out as 2nd string, collect a check, and live with no pressures.

This makes little to no sense..

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

is the worst QB in the NFL. The worst to actually have a shot at getting minutes at least. He was already rated dead last by The Athletic. The fact that it's a "competition" for the starting spot is hilarious. This is why so many people inside the building were pushing for Mayfield and now for Jimmy G. I'm telling you that we will come to regret not getting Baker.

You don't believe that. Who are you trying to fire up? LOL

 

[Titus Pullo]

This makes little to no sense..

 

[Maelstrom787]

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This doesn't support your original contention, which continues to be nonsense.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

He's not defending anything. The play call worked. Indisputable. The ball was in the wrs hands. Indisputable. Not only were the passes good, the ones that were flat dropped were perfect.

So if the receiver drops a perfect, momentum carrying pass for a 3rd down conversion... or Geno hits another perfect pass that's negated by a penalty, or a 2nd or 3rd pass is dropped... right in the hands of the receiver, that's on Geno? The qb can only put the ball where it needs to go.

He had 3 off target passes and a throw away. The rest should have been caught or converted. That 13 for 17 and 14 for 18 if you count the penalty negating pass.

If you're qb is 26 for 34 passing every week, you're going to win games.

Where he struggled was, even on the crosser that Swain dropped, getting the ball there a little late.. catchable, but late.

Of all the things to pile on in this game, the qb was the least of the problems. Dropped passes, 3 drive killing penalties by your LT, over pursuing defense, garbage special teams play...

The problem that I have with Geno is, can he make the big play when it counts? I don't think he has proven that yet. I didn't have an issue with Geno vs the Bears...

This was a preseason game and now Carroll has a pretty good idea who he is going to cut. I for one understand the D was playing an extremely vanilla scheme with a lot of players who will not make this team. so I'm not worried about it in any way.

 

[Titus Pullo]

This doesn't support your original contention, which continues to be nonsense.

The proof is in the numbers and the amount of team changes. After his horrific debut with the Jets, his confidence was ruined, and he never recovered.

I remember the same thing happened with Steve Young when he was with the Bucs but when he got the opportunity with the 49ers, he wasn't afraid to compete with the GOAT at the time, Joe Montana.

That's what Geno is lacking.....Competive fire.

 

[jamescasey1124]

Why still talk about geno? No point.

 

[Titus Pullo]

Why still talk about geno? No point.

Because the thread is entitled: Geno Smith ?