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As long as Luck doesn't get it (which he doesn't deserve), I'm fine with RGIII getting OROY, he deserves it about as much as Russell does.
:13: :13: I can go with that I just cant go with Clayton's man crush.Throwdown":vwqjk4kp said:As long as Luck doesn't get it (which he doesn't deserve), I'm fine with RGIII getting OROY, he deserves it about as much as Russell does.
Yeah too close to call that's what sucks.. but this has been an amazing rookie qb draft class though; they're the future of the NFL.rdskns4eva":2h0rfdfx said:They are both deserving. Rg3 has been the most consistent rookie QB this year but over the last 5-6 weeks, Wilsons been amazing. It really is a toss up, but Im rooting for my boy RG3!!
Sorry , but I don't agree, no Rookie and most Quarterbacks in the League do not prepare, and study as hard for games, I don't see how he'd improve over his thoroughness either.JSeahawks":2uhio6gt said:Erebus":2uhio6gt said:JSeahawks":2uhio6gt said:I hope he does win it. Keep our team feeling hungry and disrespected.
I'm guessing Russell Wilson couldnt care less about the award.
Sorry I don't have a link, but he was asked in an interview a month or two ago if he would like to win Offensive Rookie of the Year. His answer was "why wouldn't I want to win?"
So while it may not be his ultimate goal, he does care.
Well of course he would want to win it. But I can guarantee its nowhere near the top of his priority list. I'm just saying if he doesnt win it its not something thats going to reflect negatively on him, and might in fact inspire him to be even better.
Bakergirl":2s3do6mf said:I have a feeling RGIII will win the award, but I don't believe he is the most deserving. Wilson has faced much tougher opponents defensively thus the padded stats for Griffin.
Decimation":217wsmvz said:Yeah too close to call that's what sucks.. but this has been an amazing rookie qb draft class though; they're the future of the NFL.rdskns4eva":217wsmvz said:They are both deserving. Rg3 has been the most consistent rookie QB this year but over the last 5-6 weeks, Wilsons been amazing. It really is a toss up, but Im rooting for my boy RG3!!
Seahawk Sailor":1ul2um3v said:Decimation":1ul2um3v said:Yeah too close to call that's what sucks.. but this has been an amazing rookie qb draft class though; they're the future of the NFL.rdskns4eva":1ul2um3v said:They are both deserving. Rg3 has been the most consistent rookie QB this year but over the last 5-6 weeks, Wilsons been amazing. It really is a toss up, but Im rooting for my boy RG3!!
That's how I see it - almost too close to call for either Wilson or RGIII. I don't see Luck as being in their same class, in spite of all the passing yards. If your job is to throw the ball every down and hope the right guy comes down with it, then Luck's a shoe-in. Otherwise Wilson and RGIII are both superior quarterbacks at this point.
The couple of knocks I'd have against RGIII would be the high percentage of short, safe passes he's thrown, and the fact he has fewer touchdowns and more combined interceptions/fumbles. RGIII has some great ball control, and the few interceptions he's thrown is pretty amazing. He's fumbled a ton, though, and even if he's only lost a handful, fumble recoveries are really a crapshoot, and thus not a good indicator. Total fumbles paint a better picture. And the caliber of teams he's played against are a slight knock in my book. Luck's done what he has with a cupcake schedule. RGIII had a pretty decent schedule, but Wilson's was absolutely brutal. And he won more games against tougher opponents, without even getting all the preseason snaps and practices.
rdskns4eva":28ast5kx said:Thats the thing. Again, it was clear early in the year that they held RW back A TON whereas RG3 was the biggest reason for the Redskins offensive success.
rdskns4eva":3rkasgly said:Thats the thing. Again, it was clear early in the year that they held RW back A TON whereas RG3 was the biggest reason for the Redskins offensive success.
SirTed":tgier0bj said:I'm totally fine with RGIII winning the ROY. IMO, he deserves it. I think his stats are better than Wilson's, almost anyway you slice it. In fact, if people having compelling arguments for Wilson OVER RGIII, I'd like to hear it.
The only thing that will piss me off is if Luck wins it over either of those other two.
rdskns4eva":2m3qve88 said:Bakergirl":2m3qve88 said:I have a feeling RGIII will win the award, but I don't believe he is the most deserving. Wilson has faced much tougher opponents defensively thus the padded stats for Griffin.
Padded stats implies that he got the yards when it didnt matter. RG3 was THE MOST hyped quarterback of the big 3, by far...not even a close second.
Sarlacc83":1gte589v said:rdskns4eva":1gte589v said:Bakergirl":1gte589v said:I have a feeling RGIII will win the award, but I don't believe he is the most deserving. Wilson has faced much tougher opponents defensively thus the padded stats for Griffin.
Padded stats implies that he got the yards when it didnt matter. RG3 was THE MOST hyped quarterback of the big 3, by far...not even a close second.
Dude, that's a load of hogwash. Luck was hyped for 2 years as the next Peyton Manning. No one coined a phrase like Suck for Luck with Griffin. If Luck wasn't the most hyped draft player ever, I'd be astonished. Why else is Luck still in contention for rookie of the year?
Also, RG3 and Luck were handed their respect on a silver platter. Wilson earned his, and that should play into the debate.
Bitter":3sw5pord said:rdskns4eva":3sw5pord said:Thats the thing. Again, it was clear early in the year that they held RW back A TON whereas RG3 was the biggest reason for the Redskins offensive success.
I keep seeing argument that RW was asked to do less because he was put on a more complete team (while they turn around and put the Seahawks below those other teams in other rankings because we aren't as complete?) I would like to point out that while RW was asked to do less at the beginning of the season, the Seahawks didn't start to look like a serious contender until he was allowed to do more.
themunn":3j9fku2k said:The thing that amazed me was just the amount of separation RGIII's receivers were getting, are they that much better than ours?
It seemed like every TD pass I watched RGIII throw was to a guy with nobody within 5 yards of him.
We only ever seem to get that separation when McCoy illegally blocks upfield