dogorama
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JSeahawks":fof9zi4q said:dogorama":fof9zi4q said:This is a defining moment in the duck program, it hasn't hit anywhere near freefall but it is starting to spiral downwards. There is such pressure to win at Oregon that the current coaching staff has went so far as to go to smaller schools and recruit quarterbacks and other players w/remaining eligibility to play out their eligibility at Oregon. While there is nothing against the rules if they have graduated, it does create dissenion within the ranks of current players. How would you feel if you were part of a group of duck QB's awaiting their turn and none of you were givea shot? It is coach/recruit etiquette 101, you simply don't do that.
If I were a player's high school coach or parent of a hot prospect, I would look at what Oregon is up to and advise that player to look elsewhere. IIRC, some players have already pulled their commits, is it because of this? I have no way of knowing. The fact remains that Oregon's ability to attract top recruits has declined and their draft rankings relect that. In the current climate of college football you need to have top-15 recruiting classes year-in year-out or you will not vie for playoff status. That much is certain.
Man, I don't even know where to start. You think players would have rather lost games with Jeff lockie then won games with Vernon Adams? I seriously doubt there was any dissension in that locker room because of bringing in a better qb.
I'm sure the duck coaches would rather not have to bring in one year rental qbs, but they had a lot of attrition at the position which forced their hand. Some recruited qbs got injured, some left the program cuz they couldn't beat out mariota, some it turned out just weren't good enough to compete at this level so transferred out. It happens at every school at the qb position (for example: cyler miles, Troy Williams, nick Montana.... And yes, Uw brought in a junior college qb to bolster depth as well).
The good news is that the 1 and done qbs are now over and it hasn't negatively effected qb recruiting in the slightest as you suggested. We now have a pipeline, 3 young studs on the roster and already a commited stud for next years recruiting class.
As for recruiting rankings, oregon is never going to pull in top 15 classes. It's geographically impossible. i think we've ceiling'd out at #13. We're usually somewhere in the 15-25 range,yet that's been good enough to reach the playoffs (win a playoff game) and a bcs championship. It's about finding the right recruits for Oregon, it's not about finding a top 10 class.
You make good points re outside players, but I still think it's bad for ANY program, particularly when it's two years in a row.
As for recruiting, I was referring to an article I read that demonstrated how that trend has developed and is proven statistically. Oregon's opportunities were seen as an anomaly w/Kelly's innovative offenses that in the end couldn't compete with the superior athletes that result from top-15 classes.
Don James' teams were able to compete nationally w/o top-15 classes but that was a different time where Oregon, Stanford, Cal, and teams like that were cupcakes on our schedule and easily out-recruited. The current trend has seen USC, Oregon, and Stanford have runs of dominance, but that has only further created a situation where most of the schools in the Pac have had enough success to recruit. The pool is diluted but USC will always have an advantage w/25 million people in LA County.