Uncle Si
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pittpnthrs":2mcf725m said:Sherman, Bennett, and Graham certainly were.
Graham is a cornerstone?
You are struggling.
pittpnthrs":2mcf725m said:Sherman, Bennett, and Graham certainly were.
Sgt. Largent":3tgxixb9 said:pittpnthrs":3tgxixb9 said:Sgt. Largent":3tgxixb9 said:Bennett, Sherman, Sheldon, Kam, Graham, probably Earl too................how many cornerstones do you want?
That leaves Russell, Baldwin and Wagner.
And we're replacing these guys with 2nd and 3rd tier players with massive holes still all over the roster and barely any picks?
You sir, are the most optimistic optimist that ever optimized.
But its only March. Relax
For sure, but you can't replace 5-6 guys who all performed at the highest level in their careers, some at Hall of Fame levels during our two Superbowls with 2nd and 3rd tier free agents, and barely any draft picks......................AND get back to the SB?
Some of you guys have some fo serious Hawk colored glasses on.
The question was "is this a rebuild," and if you don't think so I'd like to know what you DO think a rebuild is, cause it couldn't be any clearer to me.
Uncle Si":3itfrqfn said:Now we have gone from 1/2 the roster to 5-6 guys, of only 2 played at a high level last year.
It’s the teeth gnashing hyperbole and the desperate need of some people to claim with such affirmation the end without allowing the process to play out that looks so silly.
But yeah “realists “ over “homers”
Never seen so many people look so anxiously at a hole and call it a grave before.
Sgt. Largent":hp37q1yo said:Uncle Si":hp37q1yo said:Now we have gone from 1/2 the roster to 5-6 guys, of only 2 played at a high level last year.
It’s the teeth gnashing hyperbole and the desperate need of some people to claim with such affirmation the end without allowing the process to play out that looks so silly.
But yeah “realists “ over “homers”
Never seen so many people look so anxiously at a hole and call it a grave before.
It's actually WAY more than 5-6 guys from our SB rosters. In fact, other than Earl, Russell, Bobby and Doug, it's literally the entire team.
btw Si, this question was asked TODAY, not on September 1st. It'd be pretty damn boring if every response was "Is this a rebuild? Sorry, we have to wait, it's only March 19th...............mod, please lock this thread, too damn soon."
But I like your choice of phrasings, very melodramatic. Not your best condescending work, but it's up there.
chris98251":3q8tdfng said:Many say it's not a rebuild because we have Wilson, well the Colts had Manning, the Dolphins Marino, the Broncos Elway, the Saints Brees, and each had to put new players, coaches and systems around them, in Manning's case he moved to the Broncos, Dolphins never got back to a Super Bowl, took Coaching changes and a new system for Elway to get back, Brees is still working on it. Players like Fouts never got another run. Just because you have a very good QB does not mean you don't rebuild.
Sgt. Largent":1yzee1r3 said:pittpnthrs":1yzee1r3 said:Sgt. Largent":1yzee1r3 said:Bennett, Sherman, Sheldon, Kam, Graham, probably Earl too................how many cornerstones do you want?
That leaves Russell, Baldwin and Wagner.
And we're replacing these guys with 2nd and 3rd tier players with massive holes still all over the roster and barely any picks?
You sir, are the most optimistic optimist that ever optimized.
But its only March. Relax
For sure, but you can't replace 5-6 guys who all performed at the highest level in their careers, some at Hall of Fame levels during our two Superbowls with 2nd and 3rd tier free agents, and barely any draft picks......................AND get back to the SB?
Some of you guys have some fo serious Hawk colored glasses on.
The question was "is this a rebuild," and if you don't think so I'd like to know what you DO think a rebuild is, cause it couldn't be any clearer to me.
Uncle Si":2ymtra4s said:pittpnthrs":2ymtra4s said:Sherman, Bennett, and Graham certainly were.
Graham Isco a cornerstone?
You are struggling.
pittpnthrs":23lzmqxf said:Uncle Si":23lzmqxf said:pittpnthrs":23lzmqxf said:Sherman, Bennett, and Graham certainly were.
Graham Isco a cornerstone?
You are struggling.
Although our offense was absolutely dreadful, barring Wilson of course, Graham was the most effective player on that side of the ball and the one weapon we had that defenses had to plan around. He was very much a cornerstone on the offense.
Uncle Si":1n6k4aph said:pittpnthrs":1n6k4aph said:Uncle Si":1n6k4aph said:pittpnthrs":1n6k4aph said:Sherman, Bennett, and Graham certainly were.
Graham Isco a cornerstone?
You are struggling.
Although our offense was absolutely dreadful, barring Wilson of course, Graham was the most effective player on that side of the ball and the one weapon we had that defenses had to plan around. He was very much a cornerstone on the offense.
He should’ve been. But hard to say he was. But of course who really was on offense.
I don’t think he’s irreplaceable
It’s fine. I’m done arguing about what we call it.
I’ll be interested and excited to see the final product.
Kinger95":3okmy0yj said:People don’t understand that franchises can’t be good every year. Other than the spurs and patriots most franchises do have ups and downs and in the downs is when you restock picks/prospects and young players so that they can help you get good again or traded for guys that can. Only crappy part is most times rebuilding takes longer than 2-3 years
Uncle Si":1uakxfpz said:chris98251":1uakxfpz said:Many say it's not a rebuild because we have Wilson, well the Colts had Manning, the Dolphins Marino, the Broncos Elway, the Saints Brees, and each had to put new players, coaches and systems around them, in Manning's case he moved to the Broncos, Dolphins never got back to a Super Bowl, took Coaching changes and a new system for Elway to get back, Brees is still working on it. Players like Fouts never got another run. Just because you have a very good QB does not mean you don't rebuild.
Patriots have been doing the same thing for 15 years with Brady.
Rebuild, retool, reload... whatever people need to call it, I’d say it’s still pretty open about what the results will be.
AF_BASS_MAN":2ljsiili said:I wouldn’t classify this as a “rebuild”...exactly.
We are obviously not the same team that we are used to seeing, the LOB is officially done, a lot of of our big names are gone, but like was pointed out earlier we still have RW.
Depending on how this season goes, if we suck this year then we might be in for an actual “rebuild” in 2019...meaning that it would be entirely possible we trade Russ to acquire picks for the process. Which would also mean that Pete would have likely “retired” and JS sent packing.
But at present....we are “shuffling” things around trying to ignite a spark.
Uncle Si":1h0qxok7 said:Let’s change it a bit..
What if Seattle signs Suh, brings back Maxwell and adds one more mid tier player before the draft. Still a “rebuild?” Maybe im hung up on the semantics of the word, just seems way too early to say “2018 is a loss”
And if your preference is to change your take every day as things change.. knock yourself out. Seems the norm