Russell and Carroll don't like to take chances. Russell just doesn't make the sort of "throw them open" tosses we saw Matthew make to BMW or Koren. He needs recovers that create space, Lockett might be the best in the class in that respect. It won't be long until he's seeing a lot of targets (for this offense).
Pick #69, Tyler Lockett, WR/KR/Gunner, KSU
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That Bigskydoc gif is sick. If Lockette makes the team (the one with e in the end), those two gunners will mean murder!
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The thing I love most about this pick is that Tyler Lockett will make an impact week 1. That will be crucial with Richardson likely out or limited for the first half. I'm so excited to see the energy that he brings to special teams! That was definitely lacking last year. Does his ability as a gunner put Ricardo Lockette's roster spot in jeopardy?
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naholmes":122tonkg said:
Oh yes. There are only 5-6 spots for receivers in the 53 man roster. If Lockett can do all the same things as Lockette but better or at the same level... You do the math. But it is not certain That he can. Yet.
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London12":3iq7pl7k said:
See the two GIFs I posted above. That is classic gunner there. The gunner is the fastest guy at getting downfield on the kicking team. His job is to get to the return man at the same time as the ball. Having two gunners that excel at timing the hit like Lockett(e) could be absolutely devastating for the return team. Just have to make sure they don't take each other out though.
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TwilightError":xfxf2tno said:
Agreed. That is another reason to go with a guy like Lockett over a larger WR. There are only so many WR spots and when you are going to be the WR3 through WR6 have to have some other skills if they are going to get a starting spot. Usually larger WR simply can't do anything else so unless they are your every down WR - they ain't playing too much.
The competition at WR is going to be fierce. Balwdin, Kearse and Lockett are locks at this point. Norwood and Matthews would probably also make the team. Lockette might depending on how many OL/DL we keep but he would probably get axed anyway with Richardson returns.
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It will be nice to see a guy that runs precision routes and can actually shake DB's with cuts and stops.
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ADB did in the SB, but our QB needs to anticipate route running and release the ball before the WR is actually open. Russell's biggest weakness: he doesn't throw our WRs open enough.
Sports Hernia":24vc2vt8 said:
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With the picks for Paul Richardson and Tyler Lockett, I am wondering if we are deciding to go move to WR with quickness, speed, and elusiveness to counter the NFC West and the rest of the NFL moving toward long and tall corners? I can't see someone like Brandon Browner being able to stay with both of these individuals.
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Hawkfish":12c3ilb4 said:
I think there is something to that, Pete has changed the league literally in 5 years on how to draft CB's and other players, we seen it all day yesterday, now counter moves.
We still have the ace in the hole with very few FS have Earls speed that makes our scheme work but they are scouring for them now looking at CB's to convert to FS if they have ball skills and tackle well.
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Ah 've only really been watching the NFL for a couple of years and definitely don't claim to be very knowledgeable at all yet. The forum seems to have a very diverse mix of people so no problem asking. Hopefully you guys appreciate overseas fans too.
I do find myself swayed by opinion on the forum though, was originally disappointed we didn't get a tall Green-Beckham type just because I don't know any better yet. Happy with the pick now though.
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sarc. on
I'm over 70 and my memory is a little foggy now and then, but IIRC - the greatest Seahawk/NFL WR of all time, Steve Largent was only able to get his career #'s because he was 6'-5" and couldn't get open so he had to hope for passes that he could highpoint over DB's. If Largent could have only got open horizontally, he would have been even better.
*yea, that's the ticket.
sarc. off.
IMO-GREAT pick, Tyler Lockett has a much better chance of being a Largent rather than a Durham or whomever.
I'm over 70 and my memory is a little foggy now and then, but IIRC - the greatest Seahawk/NFL WR of all time, Steve Largent was only able to get his career #'s because he was 6'-5" and couldn't get open so he had to hope for passes that he could highpoint over DB's. If Largent could have only got open horizontally, he would have been even better.
*yea, that's the ticket.
sarc. off.
IMO-GREAT pick, Tyler Lockett has a much better chance of being a Largent rather than a Durham or whomever.
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There is a piece of me that believes that part of the thinking that went in to the pick of Tyler Lockett was what happened to us in the Super Bowl. As painful of a memory as that is to dredge up, think it about for a second -- who was it who really toasted us in that game? Yes Gronkowski had his moments, but the guy who really gave us grief in the SB ... was Julian Edelman. The LOB just couldn't shut that guy down. He was jitter bug quick, elusive, and had that real ankle breaking change of direction that our guys flat out couldn't stop. Edelman is a shorter receiver as well (5'10"), just like Lockett.
I'm wondering, just wondering, if in looking at the coach's tape of the Super Bowl the coaches said to themselves, "You know what, this is a critical element of our offense (that since the departure of Tate) that we're missing." Lockett, like Edelman, is a smaller receiver and has that same amazing ankle breaking change of direction quickness he does.
And for those out there who are knocking the Hawks for going after a smaller receiver, keep in mind -- Steve Largent was only 5'11" and weighed in at around 185 pounds as well. He wasn't fast (he only ran about a 4.7), but what made him great and an absolute pain in the butt for opposing CB's to cover was the fast that he could cut on a dime. Besides having phenomenal hands, great route running ability, and body control, he had ankle breaking change of direction ability. That's what drove corners nuts and Lockett's certainly got that as well.
Just a thought as I'm processing through the moves this team made this weekend. I'm intrigued to finally see the final product on the field this Fall.
I'm wondering, just wondering, if in looking at the coach's tape of the Super Bowl the coaches said to themselves, "You know what, this is a critical element of our offense (that since the departure of Tate) that we're missing." Lockett, like Edelman, is a smaller receiver and has that same amazing ankle breaking change of direction quickness he does.
And for those out there who are knocking the Hawks for going after a smaller receiver, keep in mind -- Steve Largent was only 5'11" and weighed in at around 185 pounds as well. He wasn't fast (he only ran about a 4.7), but what made him great and an absolute pain in the butt for opposing CB's to cover was the fast that he could cut on a dime. Besides having phenomenal hands, great route running ability, and body control, he had ankle breaking change of direction ability. That's what drove corners nuts and Lockett's certainly got that as well.
Just a thought as I'm processing through the moves this team made this weekend. I'm intrigued to finally see the final product on the field this Fall.
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Hawknballs":3fbwf8ka said:
Right on!
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Smellyman":8vhz1rrb said:love it.
Video Highlight: Lockett at Senior Bowl vs. Imoan Claiborne
https://vine.co/v/OIp2mjaEMwJ
OK, you're an opposing defensive coordinator. You have a punishing weapon like Beast Mode who's already giving you nightmares trying to figure out ways to put in check ... coupled with trying to defend against the threat of Russell Wilson (who can beat you with both his arm and his legs).
Now you add to that mix Jimmy Graham (future Hall of Fame TE) ...
... and then put the cherry on top with a guy who can do this? Not fair. Not freaking fair -- and I love it as well.
I'd say that Seattle took the experience of getting abused by jitter bug Julian Edelman in the Super Bowl to heart and decided that they needed some of that in this offense as well.
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Watch this and tell me he doesn't help take over a game, this is the full game vs UCLA. I watched only the K-state Offense to see what they did with Tyler Lockett. UCLA had a beast of an RB in Perkins that was destroying the K-state defense though as I was glancing some parts of the UCLA offense.
Watch this and tell me he doesn't help take over a game, this is the full game vs UCLA. I watched only the K-state Offense to see what they did with Tyler Lockett. UCLA had a beast of an RB in Perkins that was destroying the K-state defense though as I was glancing some parts of the UCLA offense.
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Actually I think we drafted him because more teams are going big CB, they don't have the FS to do what we do but are doing what they can to emulate a lot of what we do, in fact I heard a lot of people say that some CB's drafted are Safety Converts for that coverage reason deep.
Having said all that, Pete knows our weakness, he also knows that having a Lockette to exploit it on other teams will be a boon for us. Lockette may not have outside size but he can run it as well as Richardson and get deep on the Bigger CB's with a Jimmy taking the double off and doing the seam or crossing pattern.
Having said all that, Pete knows our weakness, he also knows that having a Lockette to exploit it on other teams will be a boon for us. Lockette may not have outside size but he can run it as well as Richardson and get deep on the Bigger CB's with a Jimmy taking the double off and doing the seam or crossing pattern.
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Seahawk Sailor":uu1js8u1 said:
4 picks were used to pick up Lockett. Also I disagree with your comment that they were "low" picks --it was a 4th, 5th and 6th rounder ---That's a KJ Wright, Cam Chancellor/Sherman, Maxwell. Of course chances are low we could have picked up Pro Bowl, or best in the NFL at their position type talent AGAIN with 4th, 5th, 6th round picks. But i wish they took the opportunity to try.
