FlyingGreg":5madqijr said:
I think John and Pete have been pretty honest about most things in general. I don't see the Flynn comments as part of lying season, I just don't. Releasing him just because of the cap savings doesn't make sense.
Disagree that we are "FUBAR" if we lose Wilson. Can we go as far as we would w/ him? Clearly not. But I think Flynn would still make us pretty good.
I don't know enough about Scott, so I'll take your word for it. Nobody said you are crazy...the bigger point is you are releasing a veteran with knowledge of our system in exchange for an unproven rookie, all for cap savings at a position that we are not overly paying for. Sorry, not passing the litmus test for me.
You keep Flynn unless you are damn sure you have a ready-to-plug-in replacement in place. Is that a rookie like Scott that's on nobody's radar right now? Seems unlikely.
The context here is important. If this was the 2010 team, it would be much more likely because we were miles away from being competitive. But as we sit here today, we are a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
I do think our GM/Coach have been refreshingly honest for the most part. Still, there is such a thing as talking in code, and in a world where teams that desperately want to trade a guy say he's "off limits" (see Minnesota) to help set negotiations, Schneider has coyly admitted to be open to trade talks. If the same question were asked of Wilson, he'd laugh and probably say "yeah, maybe for 10 first rounders."
In GM speak, Schneider has made it no secret he wants to get rid of Matt Flynn. You can't take their statements at literal face value, obviously. He claims to be in a good cap management position to pay a backup QB $15.5 million over the next two years, just like I am in good position to take this rusty steak knife in my hand and jam it in my eye. I could do it if I really wanted to, I mean I have an eye to spare, right? I could even say there's nothing to stop me from doing it. Doesn't mean I want to.
We could win a Superbowl with Flynn, but I think the odds would probably drop from maybe 20% with Wilson to probably something like 3% with Flynn in that scenario. The odds that Flynn is going to be the next Doug Williams are pretty remote. Especially with the way it would impact the entire offense (WRT the read option). Over a few games, Flynn could really help us, but for the duration of a season or postseason, we'd be FUBAR.
I think Flynn's value comes with his ability to win games in a short span: like going 3-1 out of a 4 game set. I'd say that contribution is worth $1 to $2 million in salary, or maybe a 4th/5th rounder in the draft.
Tom Brady doesn't have a $7+ million backup. Neither does Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and on and on. What do they have behind them? Draft picks, often ones with no NFL starting experience whatsoever.