Pete is a HOF coach rn. Plenty of articles and analysts say he will get in. Look i hate to be that guy but your agenda has always been to down play Pete.
You "spun" what you wanted to fit your narrative. If McVay leaves, he literally quit on his team/fanbase when the going got tough. Pete would of had to join the Hawks in 2012 and quit after 2015 or 16 to be Sean. Then how would of the stats looked?
Anyone can spin it. Anyone. Pete literally did a rebuild when he came here and started over again this yr. Once Mcvay started losing and knew his cap and draft picks were done, we hear he wants out.
So, you would prefer a guy who gets a ring and then puts you in cap hell and bounces after having the worst season ever for a defending champ to save his name.
If he stays, i will respect him. If he does not? I have my opinion i shared.
I have not always downplayed Pete. I've been here since the Mora days and I lurked since well before. I was one of his biggest defenders back in the day and was beyond excited to get him as I got to see his dominance at USC first hand.
When he first came into the league he not only came with his signature managing style, but he also flipped the leagues META on its nose. He used a basic scheme but he used unconventional players to do it. He saw the trend towards bigger wide receivers in the NFL and that meant that bigger corners couldn't be punished as hard. To cover their weak spots he found himself in the position to draft a rangey safety to cover the aggressive play. He got a tweener SS that straddled the line between linebacker and safety in Chancellor. He also coveted undersized pass rushers that were just tossed aside.
It was simple, but an innovative usage of talent to combat the current NFL trends. The entire league looked to emulate the Seahawks after 2012. Carroll created a new defensive meta, much like Sean McVay/Shanahan did that propagated throughout the NFL like wildfire.
In 2016 Kyle Shanahan cracked the Seahawks defense and soon other NFL teams looked to copy what Shanahan did. Carroll's defense still worked, but since then he's been playing catch up. McVay just expanded on Shanahan's work as his under study.
The defense has struggled to remain relevant in Seattle since 2017. A lot of the moves that i've seen Carroll take to fix the defense have at times been head scratching. Signing Ken Norton Jr. after he had an extremely bad defense on the Raiders, spending two first round picks for a roaming safety that didn't really fit his scheme, drafting extremely bad on defense (remember Carroll has authority over Schneider).
On the offense I always see a regression. He always seems to move away from things that were working in terms of a more simplistic approach when things went the slightest bit wrong. Our staff here too have been extremely dubious at times.
Look, Carroll I don't think he is a bad coach. He's an elite team manager and big picture guy. He's fantastic at setting up a program. His game planning, strategy and tendency to turtle is a huge demerit though. Some of the strategy part is I imagine who he hires, some of it is of his own doing.
I'm just frustrated feeling like I'm in groundhogs day. Every season under Carroll seems to rhyme.
I've said this before about Pete Carroll. I get the sense that these days he is a high floor, low ceiling sort of coach these days. Think a modern day Marty Schottenheimer at this juncture of his career. Schottenheimer was a great coach, but he always turtled up and got super conservative at the point of it being fault. My thought is we're going to be stuck in the same loop for a while under Carroll.
I'm grateful for Carroll, but I think things have been quite stale and stagnant under him for quite some time. I think he at least needs to limit some of his responsibilities and focus more on coaching rather than scouting, and all of the other stuff he's been involved in, as he has more powers than just about every coach in the NFL.