O-Line

[QuahHawk]

4 new OL is a big statement. Can't say we are not trying. Multiple previous first round picks and guys who have playing experience. We won't have to worry about versatility or inexperience. Lots of camp competition and I'm sure Duane Brown is ready to lead this new group.

Quantity over quality that's for sure.

I would argue that 3 of 4 of these signing has immense physical talent. They are not signing Joey Hunt's here. They are signing giants who have at one point or another shown to be very successful.

Cedric Ogbuehi 6'5 308lbs former 1st rd pick #21
Chance Warmack 6'2 323lbs former 1st rd pick #10
Brandon Shell 6'5 324lbs near physical carbon coy of Ifedi.

So we didn't sign the Top Rated OL but I do think when the Seahawks have gone this method where they flood a position with new talent it has seemed to work out pretty well for us. We still have draft picks, who to say we don't use one of our top 3 pick on OL but this gives us the ability to not have to trust a rookie to protect Wilson and we sure didn't' break the bank. Seem very strategic to me.

And I would argue as I pointed out based on performance they are at best avg and with regards to passing below avg. This is the same methodology they have used for years and in that time the oline pass protection has never even got close to middle of the pack.

How would you feel if we drafted Austin Jackson with out first? Could still happen.

 

[jammerhawk]

He'd still be unhappy b/c the team has the others here.

Sometimes you just have to look at the continuing refrain.

 

[Largent80]

When I see them amassing road graders, and this deep RB class I'm thinking #27 will be RB.

 

[jammerhawk]

Could be for sure as the team wants to be able to establish a run ability before any other thing, but it also could be that they see guys they want to assess and for the most part they are not that pricey. There are signs the team may draft a RB at least on or before their 4th pick in the draft, and several are potentially good fits.

Several of these guys have seriously high potential to be special if they can figure out their 'issues'. Most all of them are here on prove it type contracts.

The number of OL guys that are now here certainly will present a very high level of competition for the 10 or so spots that could be available.

 

[Appyhawk]

Considering our limited resources Wen is right that at least the FO is trying. And IF these new to us guys can come in and step up to become what they were originally hoped to be, Russ can become Dangerous Russ instead of Russ in Danger.
Can hardly wait to see our rookie class.

 

[kf3339]

When I see them amassing road graders, and this deep RB class I'm thinking #27 will be RB.

I am starting to think RB as well for #27. Perhaps Jonathan Taylor?

 

[QuahHawk]

When I see them amassing road graders, and this deep RB class I'm thinking #27 will be RB.

I am starting to think RB as well for #27. Perhaps Jonathan Taylor?

Taylor is projected late 1st and would step in and produce right away. There are at least 3 or 4 others that deserve a look in the 1-2nd rd.

With Carson and Penny coming off injury a young 220+ back would be great. Taylor is proven unlike Penny.

 

[John63]

Quantity over quality that's for sure.

I would argue that 3 of 4 of these signing has immense physical talent. They are not signing Joey Hunt's here. They are signing giants who have at one point or another shown to be very successful.

Cedric Ogbuehi 6'5 308lbs former 1st rd pick #21
Chance Warmack 6'2 323lbs former 1st rd pick #10
Brandon Shell 6'5 324lbs near physical carbon coy of Ifedi.

So we didn't sign the Top Rated OL but I do think when the Seahawks have gone this method where they flood a position with new talent it has seemed to work out pretty well for us. We still have draft picks, who to say we don't use one of our top 3 pick on OL but this gives us the ability to not have to trust a rookie to protect Wilson and we sure didn't' break the bank. Seem very strategic to me.

And I would argue as I pointed out based on performance they are at best avg and with regards to passing below avg. This is the same methodology they have used for years and in that time the oline pass protection has never even got close to middle of the pack.

How would you feel if we drafted Austin Jackson with out first? Could still happen.

It could and IF it did that would be great. however, as of now oline still a HUGE concern.

 

[John63]

He'd still be unhappy b/c the team has the others here.

Sometimes you just have to look at the continuing refrain.

ahh you made no sense at all. I want an oline that can at least be avg in pass blocking, not top 10 just avg. That is not too much to ask for or expect.

 

[John63]

Could be for sure as the team wants to be able to establish a run ability before any other thing, but it also could be that they see guys they want to assess and for the most part they are not that pricey. There are signs the team may draft a RB at least on or before their 4th pick in the draft, and several are potentially good fits.

Several of these guys have seriously high potential to be special if they can figure out their 'issues'. Most all of them are here on prove it type contracts.

The number of OL guys that are now here certainly will present a very high level of competition for the 10 or so spots that could be available.

Like I said quantity not quality until they show otherwise.

 

[John63]

When I see them amassing road graders, and this deep RB class I'm thinking #27 will be RB.

I am starting to think RB as well for #27. Perhaps Jonathan Taylor?

Taylor is projected late 1st and would step in and produce right away. There are at least 3 or 4 others that deserve a look in the 1-2nd rd.

With Carson and Penny coming off injury a young 220+ back would be great. Taylor is proven unlike Penny.

24, 30, 25, 25, 30, 24, 32, 20 Oiline pass blocking rankings 2012-2019 (FYI 24th in 2011,) (Never higher than 2oth in PC era)

4, 51, 43, 41, 45, 42, 44, 33 Sacks 2012 -2019

1st 2012-2019 hits, hurries, pressures and sacked in NFL

And yet we get road graders not pass blockers. Its only a mater of time before our luck runs out. Then all the RBs and road graders in the world will not matter.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Our? We? Sorry they don't go get who YOU want. I'm curious if you'll ever be happy with what the front office does. Good luck with that.
Hmmmmm

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Our? We? Sorry they don't go get who YOU want. I'm curious if you'll ever be happy with what the front office does. Good luck with that.
Hmmmmm

Only if everything the front office does allows RUSS to throw for 6000 and 50 TDs.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

pow

 

[Maelstrom787]

When I see them amassing road graders, and this deep RB class I'm thinking #27 will be RB.

I am starting to think RB as well for #27. Perhaps Jonathan Taylor?

Taylor is projected late 1st and would step in and produce right away. There are at least 3 or 4 others that deserve a look in the 1-2nd rd.

With Carson and Penny coming off injury a young 220+ back would be great. Taylor is proven unlike Penny.

24, 30, 25, 25, 30, 24, 32, 20 Oiline pass blocking rankings 2012-2019 (FYI 24th in 2011,) (Never higher than 2oth in PC era)

4, 51, 43, 41, 45, 42, 44, 33 Sacks 2012 -2019

1st 2012-2019 hits, hurries, pressures and sacked in NFL

And yet we get road graders not pass blockers. Its only a mater of time before our luck runs out. Then all the RBs and road graders in the world will not matter.

Are you still on this false road grader narrative? Sheesh dude. Give it a rest.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Why do some people seem to hate a team they supposedly love? :?

 

[QuahHawk]

When I see them amassing road graders, and this deep RB class I'm thinking #27 will be RB.

I am starting to think RB as well for #27. Perhaps Jonathan Taylor?

Taylor is projected late 1st and would step in and produce right away. There are at least 3 or 4 others that deserve a look in the 1-2nd rd.

With Carson and Penny coming off injury a young 220+ back would be great. Taylor is proven unlike Penny.

24, 30, 25, 25, 30, 24, 32, 20 Oiline pass blocking rankings 2012-2019 (FYI 24th in 2011,) (Never higher than 2oth in PC era)

4, 51, 43, 41, 45, 42, 44, 33 Sacks 2012 -2019

1st 2012-2019 hits, hurries, pressures and sacked in NFL

And yet we get road graders not pass blockers. Its only a mater of time before our luck runs out. Then all the RBs and road graders in the world will not matter.

And here is our assoicated Win record

11-5, 13-3, 12-4, 10-6, 10-5-1, 9-7, 10-6, 11-5

There is no correlation of OL pass blocking rating translating into wins.

 

[John63]

Our? We? Sorry they don't go get who YOU want. I'm curious if you'll ever be happy with what the front office does. Good luck with that.
Hmmmmm

Sure just get an oline that can be average at pass blocking and I will be happy. Not too much to ask all and should be what every fan wants.

 

[John63]

I am starting to think RB as well for #27. Perhaps Jonathan Taylor?

Taylor is projected late 1st and would step in and produce right away. There are at least 3 or 4 others that deserve a look in the 1-2nd rd.

With Carson and Penny coming off injury a young 220+ back would be great. Taylor is proven unlike Penny.

24, 30, 25, 25, 30, 24, 32, 20 Oiline pass blocking rankings 2012-2019 (FYI 24th in 2011,) (Never higher than 2oth in PC era)

4, 51, 43, 41, 45, 42, 44, 33 Sacks 2012 -2019

1st 2012-2019 hits, hurries, pressures and sacked in NFL

And yet we get road graders not pass blockers. Its only a mater of time before our luck runs out. Then all the RBs and road graders in the world will not matter.

Are you still on this false road grader narrative? Sheesh dude. Give it a rest.

Hmm yet the FACTS show I am right all these guys are road graders, run blocker sand poor pass blockers.

 

[John63]

Why do some people seem to hate a team they supposedly love? :?

Why is it a fan cant want more without being a hater?