And I live and breathe by your bs posts :stirthepot:Seymour":18fxzhm9 said:xray":18fxzhm9 said:The Hawks looked better than expected ; but can they string together 2 or 3 good performances in a row . They have to be consistent to convince me. The fact remains it was a loss.
I'm sure we are all on pins and needles awaiting you to become convinced. :roll: :sarcasm_off:
Sgt. Largent":1cd289yi said:MontanaHawk05":1cd289yi said:So I do not begrudge anyone feeling good. I feel good myself.
I feel good, I just don't like the phrase "moral victory."
That's what fans in loserville places like Cleveland and Buffalo say, and IMO we're better than that.
This is a rebuild year, and so I'm fine with being encouraged or optimistic with staying competitive with arguably the best team in our conference and division.
- run game looked FANTASTIC
- Russell played really well
- Lockett and Moore, awesome
- O-line run blocking, fantastic
Just don't use the term moral victory.
TwistedHusky":d3sd7hcn said:The problem with run-oriented offense was perfectly illustrated yesterday.
You do not have the time to come back and you won't get any help.
Most of the rule changes in football have been created to create more offense. Specifically, to benefit the QB at the expense of the defense.
A penalty in pass play can literally shift the field. While a penalty against is still surmountable. 1st and 20 can easily be turned into 3rd and 6 or 3rd and 8 with a decent passing offense.
A holding penalty in a passing offense can create a problem.
Meanwhile, 1st and 20 with a run game as the focus is near insurmountable. A holding penalty with a run offense can literally shift you into low to no chance of conversion.
I get the allure. With the need to shut down the QB, defenses are turning lighter and faster - which makes the run game that much easier. But if your bread and butter is the run game, you are going to lose a lot of games down by a single TD because you will not have time to come back.
Still, at least they were able to score some points on offense. We will see if this past game was an outlier or a start of a trend. We have 3 games to figure it out.
TwistedHusky":1cq8jaat said:This is what a 7-9 team looks like.
Chapow":1lvs0wcc said:Sgt. Largent":1lvs0wcc said:MontanaHawk05":1lvs0wcc said:So I do not begrudge anyone feeling good. I feel good myself.
I feel good, I just don't like the phrase "moral victory."
That's what fans in loserville places like Cleveland and Buffalo say, and IMO we're better than that.
This is a rebuild year, and so I'm fine with being encouraged or optimistic with staying competitive with arguably the best team in our conference and division.
- run game looked FANTASTIC
- Russell played really well
- Lockett and Moore, awesome
- O-line run blocking, fantastic
Just don't use the term moral victory.
The only people that have used the term moral victory in this thread are you and the OP. None of the people that are posting why they see reasons for optimism have said anything about a moral victory.
Uncle Si":280b96gf said:You're the only person that used "moral victory" in the Shack as well.
Sgt. Largent":1s5quxxz said:Uncle Si":1s5quxxz said:You're the only person that used "moral victory" in the Shack as well.
And you argued with me there as well.
That's how this works, people state opinions, then there's agreement or disagreement.....on ambivalence.
Are we done with the how many forums did Sarge use the term moral victory, or can we continue the conversation?
Sgt. Largent":3q05akc0 said:Chapow":3q05akc0 said:Sgt. Largent":3q05akc0 said:MontanaHawk05":3q05akc0 said:So I do not begrudge anyone feeling good. I feel good myself.
I feel good, I just don't like the phrase "moral victory."
That's what fans in loserville places like Cleveland and Buffalo say, and IMO we're better than that.
This is a rebuild year, and so I'm fine with being encouraged or optimistic with staying competitive with arguably the best team in our conference and division.
- run game looked FANTASTIC
- Russell played really well
- Lockett and Moore, awesome
- O-line run blocking, fantastic
Just don't use the term moral victory.
The only people that have used the term moral victory in this thread are you and the OP. None of the people that are posting why they see reasons for optimism have said anything about a moral victory.
And the 3-4 people arguing with me, like you, and in another thread in the shack.
But other than all those people, you're right.
Cartire":3apg8als said:Anybody remember our record after the Dolphins game in 2012?
Anybody remember the mood with the fans during that time?
Sure, we're no 2012 team. But, we were also not the 2012 team until after the Dolphins game.