Belicheat confirmed...Deflate-gate

[RolandDeschain]

If you are a QB with small Keebler Elf hands then obviously an underinflated ball helps with the grip, but both Luck & Brady are big guys with large hands. Don't really se how this would benefit strictly the Pats.

Besides, aren't the ball boys employed by the NFL and not by the team?

If only the Patriots' balls were under-inflated, they'd be easier to catch and not pop up in the air as high off of a receiver's hands, by the way. Plus, not be as likely to get popped out from a bone-jarring hit while being carried.

 

[SnoCoHawk]

How many times are they going to let him get away with cheating? Of course they won't find a smoking gun of him giving the order...it'll be blamed on an "overzealous ball boy" or something. Belicheat needs to be suspended for a year - maybe that'll make him think twice.

I assume they'll find a way to cheat in the Super Bowl, too.

 

[Tech Worlds]

If you are a QB with small Keebler Elf hands then obviously an underinflated ball helps with the grip, but both Luck & Brady are big guys with large hands. Don't really se how this would benefit strictly the Pats.

Besides, aren't the ball boys employed by the NFL and not by the team?

Each team has their own footballs. Yeh they might get mixed up and both teams would use the other teams football from time to time but statistically Brady would be using their own footballs more than the other teams. This is flat out cheating to make the ball easier to grip.

 

[2_0_6]

If you are a QB with small Keebler Elf hands then obviously an underinflated ball helps with the grip, but both Luck & Brady are big guys with large hands. Don't really se how this would benefit strictly the Pats.

Besides, aren't the ball boys employed by the NFL and not by the team?

Each team has their own footballs. Yeh they might get mixed up and both teams would use the other teams football from time to time but statistically Brady would be using their own footballs more than the other teams. This is flat out cheating to make the ball easier to grip.

Ahh that makes sense. I thought the ball situation would be similar to the MLB where the umps have total control of them

 

[sc85sis]

If you are a QB with small Keebler Elf hands then obviously an underinflated ball helps with the grip, but both Luck & Brady are big guys with large hands. Don't really se how this would benefit strictly the Pats.

Besides, aren't the ball boys employed by the NFL and not by the team?

Each team has their own footballs. Yeh they might get mixed up and both teams would use the other teams football from time to time but statistically Brady would be using their own footballs more than the other teams. This is flat out cheating to make the ball easier to grip.

Are the balls stamped with the team's logo? I know they are at USC, but that's college. NFL might be different.

 

[Grahamhawker]

2 pounds PSI on something the volume of a football would make a considerable difference, I imagine.

 

[Sac]

In cold weather like New England has, that would make the balls much easier to throw, catch and not fumble.

 

[RolandDeschain]

In cold weather like New England has, that would make the balls much easier to throw, catch and not fumble.

Thanks for quoting my reply. 8)

 

[2_0_6]

So 11 of 12 were underinflated for the offense, and one was normal for kickoffs and field goals..


Damn

 

[Vancanhawksfan]

The NFL was threatening to eject ML for wearing gold cleats last game.

An ejection!!!

Surely what has occurred here is a far more serious breach of ethics isn't it?

 

[Bigpumpkin]

The NFL Front Office needs to "send a message" regarding this blatantly unfair act. Let's see how big their balls are!

 

[Sarlacc83]

Is anyone shocked? Belicheck was fined the maximum amount of money and docked draft picks for the spying. He's clearly a great coach, but he also thinks he should be above the rules. He should be suspended for the Superb Owl.

 

[pehawk]

Well, I guess we know which team America's rooting for now, don't we? Hmm, what flavor will the crowd be now, ESPECIALLY after this?

I think this will end up being a HUGE distraction. Plus, what other tricks does he have? He did the intentionally late, eligible tackle play already...wad blown. And, then he did the whole football shenanigans.

 

[RolandDeschain]

He should be suspended for the Superb Owl.

No!!! Then Pats fans can say we only beat them because they didn't have Belicheat for that game.

Assuming this is confirmed, I'd love to see a year-long "Payton sentence" handed down for the 2015 season, though.

 

[Scottemojo]

If you are a QB with small Keebler Elf hands then obviously an underinflated ball helps with the grip, but both Luck & Brady are big guys with large hands. Don't really se how this would benefit strictly the Pats.

Besides, aren't the ball boys employed by the NFL and not by the team?

It was never about throwing.

It was about catching. It is easier to catch a soft ball in cold conditions.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Is anyone shocked?

Yeah, I'm shocked. I'm shocked that Belichick made such a rookie mistake of not inflating the balls again to normal PSI levels as soon as the game ended.

I'm not sure he deserves the Emperor Palpatine moniker anymore.

It was about catching. It is easier to catch a soft ball in cold conditions.

Bingo.

 

[Smellyman]

The NFL was threatening to eject ML for wearing gold cleats last game.

An ejection!!!

Surely what has occurred he is a far more serious breach of ethics isn't it?

I saw Bill B touch his junk on Sunday

 

[pehawk]

A finesse team that lives on gimmick and skirting the rules, in a SB against the bigger, faster, stronger crew with pretty much 90% of the country rooting them on?

As a Seahawks fan I love this. It can only help.

 

[superdeluxe]

He should be suspended for the Superb Owl.

No!!! Then Pats fans can say we only beat them because they didn't have Belicheat for that game.
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You think Steeler fans care that their super bowl 40 win was a gift wrap from the refs?

 

[pehawk]

If you are a QB with small Keebler Elf hands then obviously an underinflated ball helps with the grip, but both Luck & Brady are big guys with large hands. Don't really se how this would benefit strictly the Pats.

Besides, aren't the ball boys employed by the NFL and not by the team?

It was never about throwing.

It was about catching. It is easier to catch a soft ball in cold conditions.

NPR has a fantastic article on this from the author of Newton's Football. It's a lot about throwing too. You think an underinflated ball wouldn't have helped a few or Russ's floaters in the wind and train?

Caplan's quoting anon QB's who are saying it's a HUGE advantage to throw an underinflated ball in the wind and rain.