Ravens DC Mike McDonald

[MontanaHawk05]

Thanks Katt Williams, I heard Jon had to wear a dress to show submission and he already had a kilt on underneath his pleated pants because he does at all times.

I'll bet he remembered his WWE belt, though.

 

[oldhawkfan]

Procisely

Him too

 

[olyfan63]

Some never learned how to spell Holmgren.

I resent that. I've known how to spell Holgremn since day 1. Him and Brett Farve too. Spelling names correctly is important. Mike McDonald agrees. KJ Right too. He's always right.

 

[12AngryHawks]

I resent that. I've known how to spell Holgremn since day 1. Him and Brett Farve too. Spelling names correctly is important. Mike McDonald agrees. KJ Right too. He's always right.

I've never doubted you onlyfan69!

 

[keasley45]

From Brock and Salk:

“The one thing I can guarantee is that Mike Macdonald will not be taking his shirt off in front of DK Metcalf at any time,” Hensley joked, referring to former Seahawks coach Pete Carroll’s infamous interaction with the wide receiver at the NFL combine in 2019.

Point being, if Macdonald comes to Seattle, his demeanor would be a departure from what the team and its fans have become accustomed to.

“He does not have that kind of personality. He even describes himself, and a lot of his family members describe him, as an introvert,” Hensley said. “He is not a guy that I think really excels or feels very comfortable in large group settings addressing, but he is smart and he knows how to get the best out of players and he can relate to players one on one.”

That last part... I don't know if that's what John wants.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yeah, we should get someone JUST LIKE Pete instead

 

[hawks85]

Um, I think we just got Macdonald. It's not confirmed, but I got a text message literally 2 minutes ago from my buddy who knows some sources and it was a pic of Macdonald. Jesus Christ, I hope this is true.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt. Then we can FINALLY stop hearing all the freaking out about the coaching decision. And yes, I'm part of it too

 

[Hawknight]

From Brock and Salk:

“The one thing I can guarantee is that Mike Macdonald will not be taking his shirt off in front of DK Metcalf at any time,” Hensley joked, referring to former Seahawks coach Pete Carroll’s infamous interaction with the wide receiver at the NFL combine in 2019.

Point being, if Macdonald comes to Seattle, his demeanor would be a departure from what the team and its fans have become accustomed to.

“He does not have that kind of personality. He even describes himself, and a lot of his family members describe him, as an introvert,” Hensley said. “He is not a guy that I think really excels or feels very comfortable in large group settings addressing, but he is smart and he knows how to get the best out of players and he can relate to players one on one.”

That last part... I don't know if that's what John wants.

Sometimes that could be a good thing....Imagine DK walking into a room with Holmgren and both of them taking their shirts off trying to do the Pete Carroll interaction, somehow I don't think it would be the same lol

 

[JPatera76]

Um, I think we just got Macdonald. It's not confirmed, but I got a text message literally 2 minutes ago from my buddy who knows some sources and it was a pic of Macdonald. Jesus Christ, I hope this is true.

Where’s this pic? If you received it you surely would have shared it

“Pics or it didn’t happen” lol

 

[HawkFreak]

From Brock and Salk:

“The one thing I can guarantee is that Mike Macdonald will not be taking his shirt off in front of DK Metcalf at any time,” Hensley joked, referring to former Seahawks coach Pete Carroll’s infamous interaction with the wide receiver at the NFL combine in 2019.

Point being, if Macdonald comes to Seattle, his demeanor would be a departure from what the team and its fans have become accustomed to.

“He does not have that kind of personality. He even describes himself, and a lot of his family members describe him, as an introvert,” Hensley said. “He is not a guy that I think really excels or feels very comfortable in large group settings addressing, but he is smart and he knows how to get the best out of players and he can relate to players one on one.”

That last part... I don't know if that's what John wants.

It will be interesting how much weight personalities carry in this decision. I wonder how many current successful HCs really fit the "I love to address large groups and crowds and I'm an extrovert" mold?

It's also interesting to think that Dan Campbell absolutely fits that mold - as a guy who can unite and hype up a team - but in the aftermath of the loss in the NFC Championship game he is taking the most heat for his internal X and Os thinking and execution.

 

[keasley45]

It will be interesting how much weight personalities carry in this decision. I wonder how many current successful HCs really fit the "I love to address large groups and crowds and I'm an extrovert" mold?

It's also interesting to think that Dan Campbell absolutely fits that mold - as a guy who can unite and hype up a team - but in the aftermath of the loss in the NFC Championship game he is taking the most heat for his internal X and Os thinking and execution.

I certainly think that both introverted and extroverted types of leadership can be successful. Look at Bill B vs a guy like D Vermiel. Both successful. Very different styles of leadership.

The thing John has to weigh is whether the team as currently constitued can prosper under a leader with a completey different style AND who hs never been in the position before. Can a guy who is better at 1v1 interaction and reaching a player individually, be equally as effective in capturing the attention and motovation of 53 at a time? Or will a shift to a MacDonlad style of leadership necessitate a tear down of the roster to bring in guys that will work with him, who he feels aligned with.

This is a VERY real consideration for John. Speaking from the experience of being an introverted leader, it can be a challenge to grow the aspect of yourself that shows up effectively in front of 100 people. Its a different muscle that needs to be worked to accomplish that without coming off as detached, out of touch, or even weak. And it requires a lot more attention to take an introverted leadership style and maximize what it does best (creating strong personal connections) in the context of a 53 person 'team'... plus coaches, plus admin staff. For that kind of leader, having a string team to delegate to is paramount. Having guys that 'get him' is critical. Not to say that it cant work, because i myself went from a guy who only ever led a group of 6 to 10, to leading an office of 50, and giving lectures to 100s. It will just take time and the willingness on th epart of ownerhsip and John to grow not just through the xs and os, the administrative duties, etc of running a team, but also through the time it takes for a coach to find his way and his own method of leading.

Extroverted types need growth as well, but usually have the 'gravitas' part down, natively. Doesnt mean they have the tools to lead. Clint Hurtt is an example. He could command a room. He could project 'leader'. But the substance obviously wasnt there.

I think with MacDonald, he seems to have the substance. Its a matter for how he learns to engage and project leadership that will be the X factor.

 

[JPatera76]

 

[JustTheTip]

Wonder if virtual or of he is in Seattle.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Pay the man, get it done and let's rock.
I'm assuming they flew him out here, only a guess.

 

[JPatera76]

Wonder if virtual or of he is in Seattle.

Well they’re reporting “Bringing in”my assumption (of course speculation) would be in person and in Seattle. Unless he’s already there (flew back with JS) and is being shown everything today.

 

[James in PA]

 

[SoulfishHawk]

When this gets done, and I think it will, John can say "Hold my beer"

Dude knows what he's doing.

 

[keasley45]

AlI I saw in that was that he was on a chartered flight to Seattle. The rest looks like folks just speculating, hoping, praying.

 

[keasley45]

Yeah, we should get someone JUST LIKE Pete instead

It's not about being like Pete. Pete is one of a billion extroverted leaders. There are a billion introverted leaders. It simply takes a different growth path for an introverted type to find their place, than an extroverted type.

Both can work.

As an introverted leader myself, I have my own bias . I think the proof in Mike's method is hiw well he's managed to reach his players in the small setting of DC. He had thr ability to get the most of his guys obviously. The challenge will be him learning to scale that ability up.